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CrazyThug

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posted March 21, 2001 10:09 PM

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I just saw it for the first time and I am convinced we did not land on the moon.


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posted March 21, 2001 10:13 PM

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I'm with ya bro, just watched it for the second time.

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posted March 22, 2001 01:13 AM

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When is it going to be on again????


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posted March 22, 2001 01:38 AM

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I don't know. Go to tv.yahoo.com and try to figure out. It was on at 9ET tonight. I don't remember what it was called.


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Yeah,just saw it---wow did our gov't fuck that up----talk about propaganda---The only defense that the N.A.S.A. spokesperson could say was that you would have to be crazy to think that we did not land on the moon. I always wondered why Russia never went to the moon---now I know why!


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Dude that was fucked up -- makes you question things. I can definetely why people would think we did not go to the moon and I can see the reasoning why we would fake it (global domination). If our government could fake the moon landing, then the possibilities are endless as to what they can or are doing.


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I just came over hear to make a post about this and it was already up. That was some crazy shizat! You silly Americans :-)


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Silly humans. You'll believe anything - even a prime time special trying to disprove the happening of one of your greatest accomplishments. Ask yourself this: would Fox draw a large audience if they did a special on how we DID actually land on the moon? Duh. Conspiracy = draws the numbers and it doesn't even have to be true.

You landed on the moon. Get over it.

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posted March 22, 2001 06:18 PM

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Did you see the show Warik? It seems kinda hard to believe now.


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posted March 22, 2001 06:19 PM

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It's all Dan Rather's fault.


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I don't think we landed there, too much proof against it and I did not even see the show. It makes sense to fake it, then they can defend their billion+ dollar budget for the space program.

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Although it's quite fun to play the "conspiracy theory" game, you also have to think about...OH SHIT, I JUST SAW ELVIS...well, you have to think about how many people would have been invloved in a hoax like this...WHOA, I JUST READ THAT JOHN WILKES BOOTH WAS ACTUALLY PORKING LINCOLN'S WIFE...but seriously, to fake a monumental (world-wide) phenomenon is hardly logical...SHIT, OSWALD'S MAGIC BULLET JUST CAUGHT MY TYPING HAND...I...have...to...agree with ol' Warik once a-ggg--aain...

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Originally posted by AggieProud:
Although it's quite fun to play the "conspiracy theory" game, you also have to think about...OH SHIT, I JUST SAW ELVIS...well, you have to think about how many people would have been invloved in a hoax like this...WHOA, I JUST READ THAT JOHN WILKES BOOTH WAS ACTUALLY PORKING LINCOLN'S WIFE...but seriously, to fake a monumental (world-wide) phenomenon is hardly logical...SHIT, OSWALD'S MAGIC BULLET JUST CAUGHT MY TYPING HAND...I...have...to...agree with ol' Warik once a-ggg--aain...


Nope. It is very possible. There are definitely ways to cover something like this up, but you're right, it never is COMPLETELY perfect, hence the small bits of evidence that get out creating conspiracy 'theories.'

Manhattan Project is one good example of a massive operation involving 1000's of people that was kept secret. Compartmentalization.

Do not think that things like this cannot be done.


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Yeah, I'm convinced we didnt land on the moon then either. But I think its fucking great that the US government pulled a stunt like that. Everyone was freaking over the USSR making it to the moon first. NASA couldnt do it so they just made the shit up to calm down US citizens and fuck with the Russians. Thats hilarious.

I can imagine all the top NASA rocket scientists and geniuses working hard as hell to make it work, then one guy just says "fuck it, lets just say we did."


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Frackal (and others), I wasn't trying to sound rude (like a funny smart-ass, yes!)...I just think that with governmental bullsh*t--good or bad!--you have to take it with a grain...errr...a whole bottle of salt!

I think that the average American (including myself!) could not even begin to comprehend "what really goes on!"

Just my 2 cents, hope y'all didn't take it the wrong way!!

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If we knew "as a whole" what our government has lied to us about, we couldnt handle it. It would be a breakdown of our whole system. Could you imagine if Bush went on TV and told us that they the government has been bringing the drugs into this country for our children(which they have) or that we have had a cure for cancer and heart failure but we need some kind of population control. It would be to much for the everyday person to handle. That is why propaganda is used in this country.


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If the moon landing was fake then The U.S Goverment had the whole world fooled! I really do beleive that we landed on the moon thou.


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This is a synopsis of the show typed by a friend named Realm from a different board I visit.
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I can't express by just listing, you HAVE to watch it, but points include:

-No blast crater or nothin' under the lander
-Distinct shadows come from two directions yet the sun is the only bright light source
-Camera crosshairs behind images and the only explanation for that is doctoring
-The terrain scenes were EXACTLY the same in many videos and pictures even though they are supposedly miles and days apart, and don't say a lot of the moon looks the same, these were overlays and rocks and hills were EXACTLY EXACTLY the same. That don't even happen here on earth and we're like 4 times bigger.
-You can see images clearly even though they are inside of shadows, and anyone who's been out in the dark at night with only a couple lights from one direction knows that ain't happenin'
-All those freakin' astronauts dying (10+) very mysteriously and that one dude was saying there was no way the Apollo missions would get to the moon just happened to be hit by a train
-The flag waving (that sucker looked pretty fake anyway)
-The running on the moon (also looked pretty fake to me), they sped it up to double time and it looked exaclty like earth gravity
-The NASA dude said there was no crater cause the dust would've just kicked up, well then that dust should have settled onto the lander pads after it landed (by example of the dust slowly rising and falling when the guys walked, but there wasn't a spec of dust on them clean pearly pads)
-Van Allen radiation belts between here and the moon are impossible for life to pass through.


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quote:
Originally posted by Wombat:
If we knew "as a whole" what our government has lied to us about, we couldnt handle it. It would be a breakdown of our whole system. Could you imagine if Bush went on TV and told us that they the government has been bringing the drugs into this country for our children(which they have) or that we have had a cure for cancer and heart failure but we need some kind of population control. It would be to much for the everyday person to handle. That is why propaganda is used in this country.


Wombat - if you get a chance send me your email address - I have some interesting info for you - you are dead on the money - pardon the pun.


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posted March 23, 2001 06:25 AM

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burndaddy wonders what chesty's take is on this...

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As I've posted on here before when this dumbass post came up - my dad used to work for NASA, we did go to the moon.
Just because you don't know enough about physics and are gullible enough to belive something you saw on a sub standard tv network instead of you know... well "logic" - if you can read, feel free to check these sites for how tehy refute the dumbass tv special:
NASA has a front page thing on it: http://www.nasa.gov/

BadAstronomy is dedicated to explaining morons such as yourself why the hoax theories are wrong: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

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Although I am not completely convinced one way or another, I do have one question -- I haven't we, or any other nation for that matter, gone back to the moon. For those countries who have never attempted a moon landing, it could only benefit their space program. Was it so easy for us that we got boared with the whole concept. In thirty two (32) years no one has attempted to land on the after the U.S. went for the first time in history. I can definetely see the benefit in faking such an accomplishment -- not just to justify the budget for the space program, but more importantly the political effect of such.

I mean no disrespect to you or your father when I say this happy -- but he could have easily been out of the loop on such a matter. If such a thing did happen, he could have very easily been fooled just like the rest of the world. I have done some contract work for various government agencies and I do know one thing -- there is a tremendous amount we are not being told.


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posted March 23, 2001 09:18 AM

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no disrespect taken - my dad IS out of the loop on many things.

read those pages that I put links to.

as for why we haven't gone back to the moon - it is phenominally expensive and they don't have the budget for it now. look at the money they were getting then and then look at what they get today (take inflation into account).
NASA keeps getting major cutbacks so they can't do the new shuttle design they wanted, they've had to scrap 90% of the space station work they were doing (that was what my dad was working on).

it is all a matter of dollars and cents. not physics.

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Thank you for the links -- I will definetely look at them. I am one of those who is walking the line -- I see the reasoning on both sides. I understand the economic aspect of it -- we have been there done that and we don't need to spend the enormous amount of money doing it again (we have more important work to do.) However, I do still question why the Russians never made the attempt -- they beat us into orbit but I am unaware of an attempt to the moon. I could only think that such an accomplishment would greatly benefit there space program. Just questions I have.


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I don't know the answer to the Russian comment in the past - but I know nowadays, they are barely staying alive let alone do they have the resources to go to the moon.
they have a total and absolute brain drain over there, every single scientist and engineer has left the country and most came to the states.
my dad went to visit Russia with his girlfriend and he said it was like a 3rd world country, but with nice buildings (that were falling apart).
there is no money there and the people that are left are the ones that aren't smart enough to merit leaving for bigger and better things, so they are having many many probs over there. just street and bridge repair alone is hard enough for them, I have a feeling they don't care about the moon at this point - nor do I think it would help them at this point if they did somehow manage to go - other than maybe getting some of their braintrust to come back over.

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I agree whole heartedly with your present day analysis of the country -- that is the last thing on their mind.


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Yeah, and we faked the space shuttle as well. That thing didn'r really blow up in 1986 in front of millions of people. It was all special effects that fooled everyone. The relatives of the astronauts that died in that were really just actors being interviewed by the television crews. Wake up people!!


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I saw the program and I must say they did a good job convincing me.
The one thing in most conspiracies that I cannot get through is how do thousands of people involved, keep their mouths shut?
I went to the link HappyScrappy provided, and that makes more sense than the FoxShow.
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I do have one question -- I haven't we, or any other nation for that matter, gone back to the moon.

There's not really a point. All we will find on the moon is a bunch of dirt and Neil Armstrong's footprints. Either we don't have the money to go look at dirt and Neil Armstrong's footprints, or we have the money but know that there's no point.

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I want a congressional investigation into this matter. I mean what the fuck!! Millions and millions of tax dollars went into that project and if it was faked WE NEED TO KNOW. It's not a laughing matter but a real shame if it were true. I didn't see the FOX special but dont you think the media could have thought of something better to get raitings then this rumor. There has to be some truth here.


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quote:
Originally posted by AggieProud:
Frackal (and others), I wasn't trying to sound rude (like a funny smart-ass, yes!)...I just think that with governmental bullsh*t--good or bad!--you have to take it with a grain...errr...a whole bottle of salt!

I think that the average American (including myself!) could not even begin to comprehend "what really goes on!"

Just my 2 cents, hope y'all didn't take it the wrong way!!


Not at all. And you are absolutely right, we have NO idea.


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I claim shenanigans on FOX. While anything is possible, I really don't think that their is a coverup. It would have been too big. I do think that the FOX broadcast is a disgrace to all of those who gave their lives in our silly pursuit of landing on the moon. FOX even claimed that some astronaut deaths are part of a widespread cover up. Sick really...


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BTW- I would like to add that I have not seen the program, nor do I know enough about this particular theory to make a valid judgement, but I believe it was certainly a possibility.


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Why should I believe badastromony.com anymore than Fox?


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pliftr-the space shuttle blow up in 86s ---but why-------instead of only astronauts dying----you had a female school teacher---How conveniet---


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Wombat good point u have there. I was only 5 years old when it happened but what the hell was she on there for =p. Also I do beleive the government hides alot more than anyone can fathom. I mean there are definate exceptions on this board but the general american public is content to just muddle along in their daily lives and couldn't handle the truth of what really goes on in this country. Espically the eariler post about a cure for cancer and heart failure, to exibit some sort of population control. Honestly though it sounds cold and if it was my loved one I would be pissed. Yet do we really need to end up like china but with just a bunch of old people instead?? There needs to be death to make room for more life. Its just as easy as that I am not none to excited about my own demise, but if everyone lived till they were 100 the U.S. would be so overpacked it would be like Thunderdome here.

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Fox has hit a new low. and i find it really disturbingthat so many of you believe it. Fine. Here's the answer:

-No blast crater or nothin' under the lander

You don't need all that much thrust to excape the moon's gravity. Hell, the space shuttle solid fuel boosters don't leave a blast crater when they leave Earth!

-All those freakin' astronauts dying (10+) very mysteriously

Those are heros, dipshit. getting to the moon was a risky and rushed venture. And many men died in the process.

-and that one dude was saying there was no way the Apollo missions would get to the moon just happened to be hit by a train

well ya know, a race of aliens was so pissed off about Christopher Reeve being passed off as invulnerable that they sent a high compression force beam at just the right moment to make him fall off his horse and break his neck.

-The flag waving (that sucker looked pretty fake anyway)

It doesn't wave. It just stands there. The reason it doesn't hang downis there are wires in it.

-The running on the moon (also looked pretty fake to me), they sped it up to double time and it looked exaclty like earth gravity

And if they ran it backwards Alan Shepard would be dancing the macarena in a rarely-known version of devil worship.

-Van Allen radiation belts between here and the moon are impossible for life to pass through.

There are polaric gaps in the Van Allen belt. By your theory the shuttles were all fake too.

I can't believe how gullible you people who believe this are. That kind of stupidity borders on dangerous. Fuckin sheep.


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We are that dumb? FU(K YOU!


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Why should I believe badastromony.com anymore than Fox?

Because badastronomy.com presents factual physics to debunk all of the foolishness presented by Fox to the public, perhaps? Although I don't see how a "thug" like yourself could distinguish between factual physics and "it didn't leave a crater!"

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People want to believe absolutely everything they are told -- they need that structure in their lives. Problem is people can do anything they want if they are never questioned. Wakeup and question authority. I personally am not going to sit idle by and accept everything that is given to me. Problem is that too many people do just that.

Nobody is questioning whether or not we have gone to space or the space shuttle missions, people are just questioning the moon landing itself. All I am saying is that some very valid points have been brought up -- why should I should I just disregard them as coming from a bunch of crack-pots. That is how our society runs. One side presents the facts as they see it and the other side does the same -- you make the decision. People need to open their minds and realize that things are not always as they seem. I am not saying that the moon-landing was a hoax -- I haven't made my mind up on that issue yet. All I am saying is that people have to think for themselves -- don't just believe things because you are it is true. Look at the facts from both perspectives and make your own decision -- don't allow yourself to be spoon fed (unless that's what you need to get through life -- not everyone can handle a society without structure.)


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One more point -- going to the moon is not about seeing what is on the moon. It is about developing the technology capable of performing such an act. The race to the moon was not about seeing if there was anything up there. It was part of the cold war -- our landing on the moon was a huge political statement to the Russians. It was believed that whoever made to the moon first would win the cold war.


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