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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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First off let me say hello. I usually stay over on the anabolics board, but thought this topic better suited the chat board. I am very interested in learning programming and networking and was wondering what was the best way to go about learning. By that I mean should I just sign up for courses at a college or is there something online. What about that Microsoft Certification I hear advertised all the time? I have a degree in Electronics Engineering but it seems to me that you guys are the ones making all the $$$. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!     | ||
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Olympian 
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MCSE(the main MicroSoft cert) is geared towards System Administation and the Cisco certs are more involved in actual networking and the technology behind it. You can obtain them from self-learning but it takes a lot of discipline to stay on pace and push yourself. It definately isn't for everyone but some people wouldn't have it any other way. You should be able to find course offerings for both at your local college. I'm in the Cisco Networking Academy right now at my local college, and it's a solid program. I'm pursuing the CCNA cert right now. It's the gateway cert for cisco and will start you off on the path for obtaining more advanced certs like CCNP and the allmighty CCIE. I plan on picking my MCSE up right afterwards. You probably want to stay away from the bootcamp type courses where they basically tell you all you need to know to the pass the exam(s). You'll see these mostly with the Microsoft stuff. A lot of people just end up paper certified with no real experience. Sooner or later employers will discover this. Good luck with whatever you decide to pursue. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I always found reading from books and actually doing the stuff far better for me than any class. I'm not sayin git is the best for you - but I go to the class lists at the better schools (MIT, CalTech, etc) and look to see what books they are requiring for their classes, then buy them from Amazon (or wherever you want) and then learn away. Microsoft Certification used to be a big deal a few years back - you would make roughly $30-50K without them, and $50-90K with them. Now there are so many people with them that still don't know their stuff that they don't mean as much anymore, so it isn't as big a deal (some places still require them - one of the places I used to consult for required all the consultants to get them b/c they could then get discounts from MS and also charge more for us to be at a site, but a lot more don't care one way or another about them). ------------------ Build a man a fire, he is warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he is warm for a lifetime. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 142 |
Thanks guys! Good so far, keep it coming!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 166 |
I see alot of career changers lured into this business because they see people making alot of money. Realize this, experience pays in this business. All the paper MCSEs and CNEs have devalued the cetifications. Don't get me wrong get the certs, they will usually get you in the door for an interview or tech screen. Good luck to you! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1025 |
quote: Agreed. Everything I know about programming I did NOT learn in school. -Warik ------------------ BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1297 |
I wanted to do programming a while ago but it seemed to hard so i started gonig to school for networking. Let me tell you, it's much easier. I just could not see myself in front of a computer programming all day. Plus all of my friends who are in the networking fiels all make more money than the programmers i know... |
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