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Author | Topic: Attn: Moderator and others who use the "other" form of English | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
Ok, for starters, I have, on more than one occasion, been accused of being the whitest white person alive. Whenever there are posts that contain words like "homie" or "dat"..et al, I have to translate to middle class whitebread English. Now, my question is this: It is my apparently misguided understanding that this "street" form of english became originally popular amongst somewhat uneducated, socioeconomically challenged folk. However, intelligent and educated people like Moderator, havoc, Slopain and such use this slang with verve, and in fact seem to switch their speech back and forth from slang to middleclass English like it is two different languages. So, if indeed, it is a language originated from a misrepresentation of spoken English, how do you know how these words are spelled? for example: I was always under the impression the word, which I believe you guys spell "homez" was spelled "holmes"... Please help this sheltered white person out so that maybe I can tolerate listening to hiphop...right now its no different than listening to Russian for me... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 714 |
Shit, I thought you were talking about profanity. Keep at it, it isn't english and they're making the stuff up as they go. Learn as you go and it'll come easier, then you'll be the talk of the PTA ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 74 |
Word to tha' street ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1455 |
yo kat - i have always spelled it holmes. there is no defined spelling of the words that some national ebonics board agrees upon, you just have to use your own. sometimes they match with others, sometimes they don't but you can generally always tell what someone means. ------------------ [This message has been edited by supersizeme (edited March 08, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2330 |
true dat ss ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1455 |
word is bond, gilby ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1837 |
keep dis shiznit on the DL yo. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
I didn't understand a word you said Slick ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2330 |
means, shhhh, dont tell anyone our secret. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1455 |
quote: Hey there! Let's keep this between you and I. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2330 |
ss's translation is much more accurate. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1837 |
lmao @ supersize's translation. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1837 |
your's was good too Gily. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 409 |
smoove playas got have yo shit down packed sho me how ya floss yo. ------------------ :::bitch betta have mah money::: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2324 |
tru dat, tonight I be pimpin and limpin up in da club, no haters better step, or I'll throw some lead in da ass, and then wax der hoes....know what I'm saying? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2330 |
but iz ya wear'n a beanie cap, let'n ur shit ride low, hold'n your crotch w/one hand and make'n da gat sign wit'chur uda hand? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
I understood Buck and gilby...but they're not fluent. ![]() Mod....what the heck does flossing have to do with anything? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2033 |
See kat, this is why I like you...always open to new experiences, ideas, and cultures!! LMAO... After reading a lot of old African American literature in many of my English classes, I've learned to ENUNCIATE VERY WELL! Try reading some slave narratives from the 1700s--it's straight forward, you just have to imagine someone speaking instead of the written word and you'll be fine...but with this new form of "Ebonics"--not that it's a language, more of a 'genre' if I may be inclined to call it that, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I would be half the time it's made up word to word... Just my 2 cents... Keep slingin' it Moderator...and Big Buck, ya' wigga! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2033 |
See kat, this is why I like you...always open to new experiences, ideas, and cultures!! LMAO... After reading a lot of old African American literature in many of my English classes, I've learned to ENUNCIATE VERY WELL! Try reading some slave narratives from the 1700s--it's straight forward, you just have to imagine someone speaking instead of the written word and you'll be fine...but with this new form of "Ebonics"--not that it's a language, more of a 'genre' if I may be inclined to call it that, you have to take it with a grain of salt. I would be half the time it's made up word to word... Just my 2 cents... I personally "sound" like in idiot when I try to type in that type of language, but it's just because I'm so anal about speilling/grammar, but YOU ALL KNOW THAT! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2324 |
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Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
I envy you guys for being able to speak a different language. Bling-blinging.....now I'm really lost. See, holmes, or homie I can understand...from your home town, or home turf...makes sense. but flossing extra food from your teeth and showing off valuables...I don't see the conenction. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2324 |
LOL @ Kat....just give it up girl, I don't think u can learn...LOL...this is how I grew up talking, so it's natural to me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1297 |
lol...Kat Theres a ghetto about 4 miles from where I grew up perhaps I'll put a documentary together for ya ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2330 |
bling or bling - bling = platinum chains or diamond rings, etc. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
I feel so middle class ![]() My boys are always making fun of me because Im so white, so I got mad and told them I could write a rap song. So I did. They're still laughing at me and that was a year ago....they said the lyrics were good, but I just can't rap....every time I'd try it they'd need diapers from laughing so much. So I gave up. I'm so not cool. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 409 |
quote: you ARE SO cool.... they juss jealous... so lets see your rhyme yo ------------------ :::bitch betta have mah money::: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
It's long in the garbage...I'll write another one this week so you can laugh at me Mod..I don't mind if YOU laugh at me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2259 |
this is quite amazing. im surprised that at the minimum you havent picked up any type of alternate language from the media kat. tv is plastered with it, as are popular song from alternative to rap, since both are converging lately. magazines use buzzwords popular to street culture all the time. ill admit, there are quite a few of the deeper phrases and metaphors that can be confusing to those not on the inside, or having a genuine interest. keep on learning and you'll be accustomed to it and clowning your friends in no time. tell em to stop sweatin you. if they get beligerent with you tell em they better check themselves before they get dealt with. let em know they cant fade you because you, and youre a shorty tryin to come up and thats on the rizeal fo shizel. hehe. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 60 |
We can't sing and we can't dance and we have little things in our pants. We're white boys. Just alittle rap lol. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
I don't listen to hip hop or rap (mostly cause I can't understand what they're saying...I do like the new Cypress Hill album though), and I rarely watch TV, and I grew up in a small town where the few African-Americans that lived there spoke and acted just like me. I mean, I know the jist of most of it..it's just when they get into real slang (know how long it took me to figure out what 411 meant? I use that one now because I think its funny)....I just can't use the language without sounding like a nerdy white person...I just can't get the hang of the rhythm of speech. I wind up sounding like a bad version of Jack Kerouac. LOL... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2259 |
lol kat. i know what type of town you grew up in, i finished high school in one of those after beginning high school in chicago. talk about culture shock....for them!! lol. now im back in good old southern cali, where im the minority and you gotta get in where you fit in. 411...lol. have you figured out 187 yet? police codes for murder/homicide and armed robbery. now you are well versed in numerical slang. remember this that will help you if you are talking about years, ie '92= nine deuce michael jordan's old number we could chizat all nizight on how you can flow like a true pimp. peace ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1690 |
It duzn't matta' how ya' say it o' scribble it. Man! It's all de same doodad- We is all tryin' t''spress ourselves ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2259 |
doodad? whats a doodad? hehe. which brings me to my next point..... word selection sometimes you may hear a word, but it wont fit into the type of speech you are using and thus sounds silly. case in point (just yanking your chain) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 339 |
axe kat if she can wobble dat thang [This message has been edited by CrazyThug (edited March 09, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2311 |
only fat people wobble... ![]() Thanks bignate..I didn't know about the other numbers as I haven't had much contact with the police in my life...except to say "no sir, I do not drink and drive"....not very much violence where I'm from , but you sure as hell don't want to be driving at 2am after a Friday or Saturday night LOL.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2259 |
quote: correction: otherwise they just jiggle. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2244 |
AA culture/street talk is actually pretty efficient language if you take a linguistics course... whats teh difference between: he be late. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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