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 Anyone PROUD to say your parents beat the shit out of you?!
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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With all these school shootings (again), it got me thinking about the kids of today, why they're SO messed up compared to when I was young. I think the reason why they're so fucked up is that parents these days aren't brave enough to discipline a child the way they should because fucked-up kids are too "trigger-happy" to shout out "child abuse"! That's fucked up. And then you have all these children's advocates & organizations that say "You don't need to spank your kids, just talk to them...blahblahblah...". I tell you what, I'm GLAD my dad grabbed the HUGE decorative wooden spoon off the living room wall and beat my ass with it till I got bruises (and that's just one of many weapons!). I'm GLAD my weak mom grabbed the nearest set of chopsticks and thwacked me on the hands and shoulders! When I have kids, I'm gonna have a crowbar ready at all times to split their heads open if they fuck up!! Well, ok, not that extreme, but you know what I mean. Anyone care to agree or debate?     | ||
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Freak 
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some of the nicest, most confident and well-adjusted adults I know never had a finger laid on them as children...my own mother being one of them. My father was a different story.
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Olympian 
Posts: 1982 |
There is NO way that I would EVER lay a hand on a child of mine, or let anybody who did breathe again. A good parent has the ability to teach, to explain, and to encourage their children not to do the wrong things--and TO DO the right things! I agree that it's each individual parent's decision, and I think SOME of the court cases that cry abuse are bullsh*t, but where do you draw the line?? I am completely against corporal punishment because it has been proven insufficient as a deterrent to further misbehaving! And I can attest to that after working with 1000s of children (not exaggerating) over the last 4-5 years...you can tell the ones that are spanked/beat, and the ones that aren't...contrary to some opinions, I believe time-out--WHEN EXPLAINED TO A CHILD--is still the best lesson. ACTUALLY TALK/EXPLAIN things to your kids--that simple act can accomplish AMAZING THINGS!! If you make them realize what they did is wrong, and explain that the punishment will only get worse with repeated offenses, chances are the behaviour will disappear--maybe not immediately, but eventuall it will! ------------------ | ||
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Mutant  
Posts: 3105 |
Made me the responsible person I am today!! Other than juice I do very little wrong. Oh ya I do drink. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
Not a flame people, but don't even fucking give parenting advice if you're not a parent. That pisses me off more than fat people giving me nutritional advice. Do not condescend to tell me how to raise my children. Just my .02 Whew! That felt good! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 344 |
I recall being hit once as a child. I learned real fast that I never wanted it to happen again either!Yikes, the dreaded "look" from my dad would make me cry! My mom was famous for putting soap in my mouth though... | ||
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Mutant
Posts: 3105 |
I know how my parents raise me ZEBO and I have never been convicted of a crime or spent over 2 hrs in jail. hehehe! I don't have a kid, but I can suggest what to do to help them and time out just does not work in some situations. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 377 |
You got me wrong, I have spanked my kids. Not with a belt like my parents, but I got their attention for damn sure. I get this shit from younger friends, my bro-in-law, etc. "You should blah blah," or "You should never blah blah." And they have no fucking clue of the daily responsibilty of raising a child. What are you Dr. Spock reincarnated? Go back and talk to your house full of cats and raised them you yahoo! (Brother in law and hippie wife.) Just a pet peeve of mine, sorry, I'm in a pissy mood today. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 561 |
Let's not just hit them, let's sodomize them, too! That would be a real deterrant! (and I'm sure there are many of you who would enjoy it, to boot! oops, forgive the pun). | ||
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Mutant
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Understood Zebo. Cool. I don't really like anybody telling me how to run ANY aspect of my life. Latona do you have children. You sound like you may of had some problems when you were younger. Did a cousin touch you where the should not have or maybe and uncle looked at you in a special way? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 561 |
quote: You mean like the way you want to touch me or the way your lookin' at your screen thinking about me right now? (he he) My earlier post was an attempt at satire. My point is that just because something is effective, doesn't mean it's ethical. Yes, corporal punishment might be an effective deterrent, but so is sodomy. We don't accept the latter because it is also a form of abuse and can be permanently scarring to the child. I believe the same is true of corporal punishment. [This message has been edited by latona (edited March 07, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 71 |
when mine fuck up I am gonna take them to the grocery store and whomp there asses in the cereal aisle, with a flip flop | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 450 |
Zebo, I hear ya, and I'm not saying one should necessarily beat the shit out their kids...but I think spanking can even be effective. It's just that some kids consider spanking abuse (?!) and won't hesitate to tell the cops. And just an aside, I do and many people consider me Dr. Spock, kids or not. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I like what you had to say Zebo  I agree with it also.....don't begin to say this or that about a situation when you haven't been in it......I remember my sis-in-law talking to me about babies and stuff....preaching crap....meanwhile she never had any kids......it's sorta like when ppl judge you for something you've done or assume you are this type of person by the way you act, meanwhile, they no jack shit.... you know who you all are.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Until you have a kid of your own that you are responsible for, care for, love, teach, interact with etc you won't know what the day in, day out life is like. I had the fear of god put in my when I was about 9 by my dad - I had a "fear" and didn't push my luck too often. Kids today have no repercussions for their actions. What, they get grounded for a week - but they have cable tv, a computer and the telephone. Yeah, that sounds harsh. There is a world of difference between beating a child and a good smack on the ass. Did you know that most 3rd graders are taught that "if someone, including mommy or daddy, hits you you can call us". Us being CPS or CYS. You know what my answer is to that? Let them go live in foster care for a week. They will BEG to come home to their own bedroom, private bathroom and home cooked food. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Shrebly (edited March 08, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 519 |
Let me get this straight, many of you believe that if that kid in Cali had been whipped more that he wouldn't have grabbed a gun and started shooting? Sorry, I don't buy it. These types of children have problems that are not fixed by a wooden paddle. The most disturbing thing in the USA is that we allow paddling in public schools. This can be a form of sexual abuse. If you don't believe me, then type in "school girl spankings" in yahoo and look at the search results. Look at some of these pictures and ask yourself if you really want some stranger to paddle your kid. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 450 |
plifter--of course I'm not saying that mere spanking will prevent shootings. Obviously there are much deeper problems if a kid resorts to shooting. The Cali shooting itself just reminded me of how messed-up some of today's kids could be, and then I thought of a loose connection between kids' behavior and disciplinary methods. And yes I will tell people how to treat their kids. Toughen them up, and tough yourselves up. | ||
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Mutant
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BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT. Violence only brings more violence. I was beaten by a fuck head drunk father all the time. When he died I was actually happy about it. I use to beat the shit out of other people alot because I couldn't beat his ass up! And there were times in my life that if I had a gun, I would have capped off a few pieces of shit that crossed my path rather than just knocking there teeth out and breaking a few bones... How do you know, any of you, that the kid in California wasn't beaten all the time by his father? Maybe that is part of what torched him off, you don't know! So to say that beating someone is the answer is fucking ludicrus and assinine!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 741 |
This is not directed at anyone in particular, just ranting Hey, I don't in any way, shape or form condone hitting children. There are plenty of other ways to reason with children without resorting to that crap. People get angry, they hit children out of that anger. It's not right. It really only tends to make the adults feel better and doesn't teach the kids a damn thing, except that hitting is OK when you're angry. When someone is angry and they take it out on you, for eg. verbally, how do you feel? You don't like it and usually tell them just cause they're angry, doesn't mean they have to take it out on you...so, how do you think a child feels when you take your anger out on them? So, the child pissed you off...big deal...deal with it in better and more effective ways.....my huby pisses me off, but, I don't go around hitting him or vice versa...yet, when a little child pisses you off, you go hit them....o ya, what a big tough person you are, you're 4 times the kids size...does it make you feel like a big person to hit a kid?? Treat children like people. They are people. | ||
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Freak
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People who don't have children aren't allowed to have an opionion?? Gimme a fucking break. Since none of you people are musicians, you obviously know nothing about music, therefore your opinion on what is good or bad music is irrelevant. Since none of you people are politicians, you obviously know nothinga bout polictics, therefore your opinion on the matters of your country should not concern you. BTW....from what I remember Dr Spock was childless. That sort of attitude goes with a guilt that the person may actually be doing something wrong, so they say "none of your business"....."you dont' know"....if ya'll were perfect and had perfect kids there would be nothing to criticise. And it is BECAUSE of my ability to sit back and assess a situation that parents I know ASK my opinion because I will not be on either side...and I am told I give good, practical advise BECAUSE Im not emotionally involved. so, go ahead ALL OF YOU and raise your kids and tell everyone to shut up and mind their own business. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 278 |
My father never touched me and i don�t know any kid who was beaten and is nowdays a normal person... Talking to the kids is often more effective and doesn�t leave bad remarks on them... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 741 |
Hey, people who don't have children are allowed opinions. Everyone is allowed opinions. I can take advice about kids from people that don't have children, just as much as from people who do have children. It all depends on the person you're taking the advice from though. But, when people start preaching shit, that's where I draw the line. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 486 |
I got smacked quite a few times as a child/teenager by my Father. Hell, the other day I said "Fuck" in front of him and he smacked the back of my head. So I said, "Sorry Dad, but I'm Fucking 28 yrs. old and I'll talk however the Fuck I want." He laughed his ass off...hehehehe I am a mother and I can't say I never popped my son in the butt, however, I find yelling at him, grounding him & taking away racing is much more effective when he has been a bad little boy...That's just how it works around here. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 741 |
I do yell at my kids...however, I don't think it's right....if I've had time to cathc my breath, I don't yell.....if someone yells at me, I sure as hell aint gonna listen, why should we expect kids to? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 486 |
quote: I guess it all depends on the age as well. I can't imagine yelling at a 3 yrs. old. Well, yeh I can imagine it, I just couldn't do it. Now a 10 yr. old, ok. When I have told him 20 times to do something and he is still farting around I might raise my voice JUST A TAD!!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 741 |
o definitely......try yelling at daughter, she's just freshly 5......she'll be like "huh?".....I swear all kids under 7 or 8 have ADD.....or no, sorry, "selective hearing"... |
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