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 The Fat Debate.......
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 214 |
So I have seen about 8 posts so far about "fat people". Speaking as a former "fat person" I'm just a little dissappointed that people who claim to be "so buff" and "so stacked" would choose to attack people who are overweight. There are several different classes of "fat people"; those that can't control themselves, those that eat out of depression and those that are just happy being big. I'd like to ask you - the finger pointers - what gives you the right to pass judgement on another human being? Do you think you are that much better? I've lived on both sides of the fence and seen the pro's and con's of each "lifestyle". As far as hating "fat people" - isn't that the same thing as hating someone who is black? Or Jewish? Or in a wheelchair? Or maybe you are so insecure with the size of your cock or the level of your intellect that you have to put someone down to justify your own self worth. That's just sad - it kind of reminds me of the kid in grade school that had to beat everyone up and act like a tough guy because he couldn't read. Did you ever stop to think that some people who are fat might think your body looks grotesque and disgusting? That the hours you spend at the gym are nothing but wasted hours of time - that all the time you spend dieting and being miserable are indeed stupid..... that in fact man fat people make fun of you for your own self inflicted misery. I was the kid in grade school and high school that was the center of many jokes - until I dropepd over 100 pounds and started dishing out some well deserved revenge of my own. I don't train hard for anyone else but myself - but what I see on this board is pathetic. Some people feel the need to run around out cyber lifting and cyber pumping everyone else. Unless you are prepared to back your stats up in a gym then shut the fuck up and stop wasting my time. I posted my pics and got shit for it. You know what - you can all fuck off, eat shit and die as far as I am concerned. To the three people who feel the need to continually send me emails calling me "a guy" because I have muscle I have this last little tidbit of information for you. You aren't as invisible as you think. One of you lives in Austin texas, another in Atlanta GA and my last little stalker lives right here in San Diego. In fact, I have all of your information and you'll get what's coming to you - post haste. Start living your life for yourselves instead of living to put other people down ... [This message has been edited by Shrebly (edited March 04, 2001).]     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 456 |
Shrelby, I'm in the same boat as you. Grew up a fat child, adult and so on. I lost 80 lbs, but I'm nowhere near one of those buffed and ripped he-men, but bottom line, I'm happy with my life now and that's all that counts. You hit the nail on the head talking about putting race instead of body shape and what the result would be. I think maybe we are all discriminitory in our opinions of others and it's just easier to place your emotions against a "society approved" target-Obese People. Treat people the way you would want them to treat you and that's the key to getting along. Just my opinion. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2729 |
I disagree shelby. Read, or re-read my post, it will explain how i feel. There is certainly a difference between fat people and black people. One is (in general) changeable, and another is not. Also, you proved one of my other points. Fat people laugh and disrespect us, more out of jealousy than anything else no doubt, so why should I respect them? I never disliked fat people until I took shit from them all the time about what I eat, blah blah blah.. Also, YOU CAN *NOT* SAY BEING FAT ISN'T A CHOICE!!! THE OBESITY LEVEL IN THiS COUNTRY RISES EVERY YEAR. WHY? NOT BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH POOR GENETICS, BECAUSE AMERICANS GET LAZIER AND LAZIER IN BODY AND MIND.. I like you shrebly so let's please keep this civil. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2729 |
I'd also like to add that I never treat or taunt fat people, ever, I think that's extremely fucked up, especially if I don't know them. But I still strongly believe in what I posted here and in my other post. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1295 |
i think most of us bash the fact that they always bitch about being fat but sit there and down 20 cheeseburgers and dont exercise,if someone has a eating disorder and just cant change then its a different story ------------------ "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity." "In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal." "Its not when you die its how you live" http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy check this board out its just gettin started | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 11 |
Shrebly, Don't hate just order a pizza and your anger will go away. I know your probably just hungry.. Don't let other people get you mad it's not worth it. Be happy how ever you are... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 294 |
I worked at Subway for a long time and the only time I ever made fun of fat people was when they would have me put 1lb of mayonaise on the sandwich. Then it was kind of like "and you wonder why you're fat". | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 214 |
quote: My standard reply.... what | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
I have never, nor will I ever make fun of someone for something they can not help. I am dealing with some anger of my own at this point in my life. My Grandmother was diagnost with breast cancer 3 yrs. ago. Was treated with chemo, had her left breast removed and now it is in her liver, terminal. She has been obese most of her life, eating disorder, depression etc...I am angry with her because she never sought help despite the cries from her family. Just an example of her laziness (I hate to call it that) she did not learn to drive until she was 48, never had a job, never cleaned the house properly etc..., she gave birth to 8 beautiful people who were/are her life, one of which is my mother who is the complete opposite because she saw first hand what this DISEASE can do to a person. There is an extreme amount of pain behind her fat that only she knows. I feel so guilty for being angry and I know it is just out of my own self pitty and the fact that I am going to lose my best friend in the world kills me. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2729 |
BTW- I would like to add that I am not talking about a 600 lb. obese type person, this is a disease obviously and I pity them. I'm talking about the rest of america, who are only fat because they are fucking lazy and do not care. You can be fat all day, but I feel it is BS because their lifestyle is a hell of a lot more dangerous than AAS but since they control the country aas is illegal. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
Frackal, I agree with the point you are trying to make. There are a hell of a lot more fat children these days. Video games, TV, Micky D's, Burger King etc...Some parents just don't give a shit what happens in the long run due to their own laziness. Example: Where I live the soccer fields & sportsplex are right across the street from a Burger King & McDonalds. There are tons of parents taking their kids there at 9:30 at night after practice/games every day. LAZY! What is the point of all the exercise if they are going to shovel this shit into their faces day after day, especially right before they go to bed....I don't get it. I would much rather spend a few extra bucks at the grocery store and purchase healthy food for my son. He is naturally big, 10 yrs. old 5'3" and 155#. He is a BIG kid no doubt. He knows when he gets home from school, he can get a snack, carrots, fat free jello, etc...do his homework and he is out the door riding bikes, running, playing football whatever, as long as he is not sitting around wasting his body & mind. ------------------ | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1888 |
I haven't been on all day, and don't really know all the details of this argument...BUT... I was fat all through high school, got skinny before my senior year, then started bodybuilding... In my case, this transformation makes it "easier" for me to joke about the fat-ass weating 2 Big-Macs at McDonalds and the lazy-ass who thinks 20 minutes on the f*ckin' Bowflex is gonna get them ripped... I think (IN F*CKING GENERAL) that fat people have little respect for themselves...and the ones that make fun of fit people, call their gym time a waste, and give them sh*t about their strict diets, are merely ENVIOUS! We can walk down a beach, shirts off (guys), or in a tight little 2-piece (girls) with our heads up, PROUD of our hard work! And I'm NOT just talking abour elite (in the description-sense of the word!) athletes and people with 2% bodyfat...I'm talking about people you can tell care about what they look like!! This is just my 2 cents, like I said, this is the first I've read of the "fat debate!" ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 428 |
Shrebly--- I think you are one cool chick. Don't let these assholes make you so angry. Personally, I have been waiting to see your full body pics, because I haven't been able to get those leg shots out of my head. (No disrespect meant to you or your man). If those guys are sending you shit about you being a "man", its because they are inadequate as men, and are probably often mistaken for females. [This message has been edited by StoneColdGold (edited March 04, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 526 |
I think that there is always one element in everyone's life that is almost impossible to control. Personally, I need to nap for at least an hour in the afternoon. I just can't help myself. I consider myself lucky that my 'excessive behavior' isn't as socially unacceptable as someone who eats a a lot. Some people have trouble controlling food, others alcohol - these are the easiest to identify. But there are subtler forms of addiction, too. I also know people who struggle with short attention spans, bad tempers, and poor spelling � and most of them are on this board insulting others! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 214 |
I am going to go out a limb here and tell you exactly what and why I feel the way that I do about "the fat debate". I spent the better part of today being depressed and walking around like a zombie - trying to kill off some old ghosts that still haunt me. Like I said I was a fat kid - and none of you who were not in the smae position will ever be able to understand what this hell on earth is. Everyday I had to go to school and be teased, make fun of, have food thrown at me and one time severed my lunch in a pig bucket. All this torment from people who were "cool" and "popular". Football jocks, cheerleaders and "the in crowd" all deemed me the school joke - insuring I would have no friends - geeks included. Everyday I would come home from school and deal with more verbal abuse from my family - often refered to as "the human garbage disposal". If there were leftovers they were usually shoved in front of me. I had no friends, no one that would even talk to me. Food was the only thing I could find to comfort me even though food was the same thing that was causing my social ills. I soon shut everyone out - I didn't talk to anyone - teachers and family included. I pushed all my hate and rage inside me and let it fester. Imagine walking around with that amount of pain, hate and frustration 24 hours a day. My brothers friend offered to help me train at a gym and I again thought it was another in a long line of cruel jokes played on me. In a few weeks I saw some results - small but promising results. I wore the same "big" clothes refusing to give myself even a minute of pleasure in knowing I had dropped a few pounds. That was how low I was - it was impossible for me to feel good about anything. Eventually I dropped 100 pounds and started to be the center of attention - attention I didn't want. I snubbed everyone - including my family who were suddenly "so proud" of me. I still carry a lot of that rage with me and I know first hand what it is like to go home everyday and cry until you puke because of words and actions. People have feelings, regardless of their outward reactions to your slanderous comments - everyone ends the day thinking of one thing that impacted them - and for me it was usually recalling some evil actions or series of name calling parties that were held in my honor. I didn't start this thread aimed at any one person - but rather a group of people that feel supwerior based on their ability to make fun of other people. ------------------ Everybody really was Kung Fu fighting.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 258 |
People have different metabolisms... but most of the times they can always make something to better themselves... I went to Disneyland in Orlando last summer and it looked like the freak show, alot of obese ppl that i don�t see in another countries and still i don�t think americans have different genetics from the rest of the world, its just the way they live... the lifestyle... Someting has to be done! | ||
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Mutant  
Posts: 3486 |
Shelby hope everything improves for you going forward. It's easy to say but hard to practice... Live for the moment for now, the past is dead and gone, nothing will ever change it. The future is just a dream that may or maynot happen. Now is all we really have and learning to enjoy the moment is the greatest gift you can give yourself. PEACE | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
Well, the ppl that were in ur life, Shelby, had problems. Unfortunately it affected you. I'm sorry. I can relate to when you said all of a sudden they were "so proud" of you. But, ya know what I hate, and, I don't care if ya'll don't like my opinion, is people that are overweight that sit around and bitch about being fat. Get off your ass and do something about it. Or, people that are overweight that assume cause I'm fit that I can eat anything, where as they can't. Excuse me, I'm not invinsible cause I'm in shape. I still gotta watch my diet. anyhow...I could go on and on here about this topic, but, I aint gonna | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 487 |
I've got a friend that really pisses me off sometimes. He's horribly obese and bitches about it constantly. But his diet consists of Taco Bell and Pizza Hut. He never exercises, sits in front of the TV watching Star Trek and Simpsons reruns and tells me I'm "lucky" because I only weigh 190. Luck has nothing to do with it, while he's watching Star Trek I'm at the gym. It's that simple. |
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