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yiyangzhi

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Ipoh
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posted March 03, 2001 05:58 AM

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Dear GS and others who read the State of the Union address,

I'm posting this as an open post to GS concerning BigJay. Before you or any mods write me off, consider wat an outsider like me have to say.

I deeply feel that BigJay harbour no malicious sense of deep hatred or animosity towards EF and its anabolic discussion board. As far as I have been surfing EF's website since Nov 2000, BigJay has impressed me with his knowledgeable posts. What is more commendable is that he frequently helped many newbies and iron bros alike with their questions on cycles, new insights on specific drugs, and just being there for bros who need some advice.

EF has been a wonderful haven for bodybuilders like us, and I thanked GS and his team for creating and maintaining this website. I learnt plenty from bros who flocked to your discussion board, and many like dexter, huck, macro, E2, BIZ, Kodiak99, flexed1, Iron-Game, 2Thick, champion, The Ranger, Warlobo, have taught me so much I am indebted to each of them. Their posts are still archived and I still refer to them.

BigJay is one of these gurus who know their stuff. Above it all, BigJay numerously helped bros with his advice and knowledge, even catering to irritating newbies' questions. BigJay seem to be always around on the board 24 hours, even at 5:30a.m.!! And still helping dumb bros like me who lived on the other side of the globe with his advice. My kudos to BigJay. He earned my respect.

I just emailed BigJay, and he told me he was not promoting another board. Another bro did that. He sounded tired, like resigned to the unpleasantness that arose. Please do not delete his account. Dun write off a bro who meant alot to the board and bros, including me.

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yiyangzhi

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posted March 03, 2001 06:09 AM

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bump for all to read.


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yiyangzhi

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posted March 03, 2001 06:12 AM

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Note: My no. of posts have froze.


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rushx79

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posted March 03, 2001 06:41 AM

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if this is the bigj i know, i back him %100.. if not then i have no bearing on this..

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runner

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posted March 03, 2001 07:28 AM

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i don't know the details...but keep bigjay here...he's an asset.


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Painkiller

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posted March 03, 2001 08:01 AM

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Well this "guru" did his first cycle in May...
Read this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/05-2000/013271.html

"Guru" give me a break........

In this thread he claims to have used everything in the pic(4 months after his first cycle): http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/11-2000/036851.html

flame me...please!!!

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~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~

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posted March 03, 2001 08:09 AM

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so BigJay is a fraud.....who cares? don't ya think 90% of the ppl on here are?


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Painkiller

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posted March 03, 2001 08:24 AM

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I do care...giving out wrong advise(AS related) can become fatal.............


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Checkmatebloated

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posted March 03, 2001 08:31 AM

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Big J is a member of the authorities.

and kickass I am not part of that 90% are You?


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Myo-genetic

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posted March 03, 2001 08:37 AM

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It's been going on forever on this board....guys who never cycled or are on week 2 of their first cycle giving out advice like they are Dan Duchaine. There was a campaign against this type of BS back in August. It curtailed the problem for about a month, and then it was status quo once again once more newbies showed up wanting to make a name for themselves.

For every knowledgeable and experienced vet, there will be 9 frauds or 5 star newbies. Wasn't there some statistic that said 80% of the population lies on a regular basis? I'm sure those numbers are much higher on the internet....it's human nature.

Again this is not in reference to BigJay81, but rather an acknowledgement that this type of thing happens.


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~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~

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posted March 03, 2001 08:39 AM

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No I aint, Bloated You cute thing
PainKiller, well, you've got a point..but, I'd be taking my AS advice on-line with a grain of salt and I'd rely more on my own personal research, not someones word.


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Painkiller

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posted March 03, 2001 11:15 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by ~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~:
No I aint, Bloated You cute thing
PainKiller, well, you've got a point..but, I'd be taking my AS advice on-line with a grain of salt and I'd rely more on my own personal research, not someones word.


Ofcourse, but there are newbies out there....


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~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~

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posted March 03, 2001 12:20 PM

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This is true, PainKiller


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white boy

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posted March 06, 2001 05:56 AM

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big jay is a liar and a fraud, here is proof:

bigjay's first cycle
http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/05-2000/013271.html

4 mo's later pics of all the gear hes done
http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/11-2000/036851.html


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Ass Goblin

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posted March 06, 2001 10:47 AM

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Someone please post a link to the Sate of the Union address, it cannot be found...


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Moderator

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posted March 06, 2001 10:55 AM

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that shyt is wack.... 'guru'

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BigJay81

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posted March 06, 2001 01:25 PM

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WHAT DOES THAT PROVE BESIDES YOUR ARE A CHLID MENTALLY!!!

I HAVE NEVER GIVEN ANYONE BAD INFORMATION EVER!!!


AND WHO ARE YOU????NOBODY!!! YOU HAVE NEVER POSTED ANY USEFULL INFORMATION I WILL SOON BE TRACKING YOUR "IP" TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE YOUR A LITTLE BUG WHO NEEDS TO BE SQUASHED
HAVE A NICE DAY

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Puc

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posted March 06, 2001 01:29 PM

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how do you propose to track his ip unless you have stolen a mods password, or spoken with him on IM?


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Checkmatebloated

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posted March 06, 2001 01:54 PM

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