1. Whenever a girl showed her tits, there was a good probability that some "homeboy" would grab them. When this happened, the girl would then hit the dude and scream something like "YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE". On two separate occasions, the "homeboy" would then push the girl pretty hard, (one actually fell down after getting pushed). (I saw many many tits get grabbed, but NEVER by a white guy)

2. I saw 2 fights between black dudes and white dudes, it seemed that when the fight started, it would be 2 on 2, but then 15 black dudes walking by would join in and pound the white guys into the ground.

3. Whenever I was walking through a crowd and everyone started pushing, all you had to do was look and see a crowd of "homeboys" shoving everyone around so they could get through the crowd faster.

4. Two of my friends got their wallets pick pocketed, (and don't give me shit about how that could of been anyone, the odds are not in your favor)

5. The majority of the "homeboys" down there were all decked out in gang clothing (red or blue bandanas).

Moral of the story, most black guys I know are cool as shit and nothing like the type that swormed mardi gras. The majority of the black guys down there were around 16-20 and completely fucking shit up, they all had no problems pushing girls, I saw it a lot. One thing I learned from this trip is that I will NEVER AGAIN travel to the "Dirty South", I actually feared for my life at some points.

Anyone who calls me a racist obviously hasn't been to Mardi gras in New Orleans, cause its nothing but thugs.

I felt the same way when I wore my KKK outfit during a MLK parade in Harlem, what was the big deal yo?

Natymike- you should of gone as Flava yo.

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what Havoc said.

Natymike,

it was JUST like that in austin too
terrible
gang shit EVERYWHERE.. they were trying to start shit with the po po's to finish off the riots over the weekend
tthe cops are really nice guys too
they didnt deserve that rambling shit in their face
i personally saw this, btw. and they *did* outright threaten as well. can u say felony?

this isnt racist:
there were some fiesty black guys there

They should charge people to walk the streets during Mardi Gras.I bet you wouldn't
have any problems with all them thugs then,
Why?cause none of them have any money.

BUMP for Savannah for ST. PATTY's I went there 2 years ago.Best time I ever had.

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Weights before dates

The project area would make a great place for a hotel if they would move the projects somethere else.

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% of blacks in prison --(3,892 per 100,000)
% of white in prison ---(418 per 100,000)

is that good enough for you??

Why still cover this topic? I'm from N'awlin's(that how we pronounce it. Blacks, whites, creoles, etc.), Louisiana. I've attended Mardi Gras almost every year of my life. Sure there are fights, etc. It's caused by both blacks and whites. Most of the pickpocketing is done by TOURISTS!

Let this m*therfucking topic sink to the bottom where it belongs....

2) No matter what you want to call it, there are more blacks in prison that whites, even though there are less of them...

3) I don't get the "Bed and Bathtime" reference...

4) I can see why blacks jump into a fight, although I personally--unless they were jumped for no reason, being robbed, etc.--wouldn't jump in a risk getting arrested, beat up, or killed if one of my stupid friends was getting in a fight...my girlfriend, I'd open a can of whoop-ass if anyone touched her, though...

5) The 2Sh*t reference is nothing but cowardliness...why throw stones?? Dis' someone's post, their ideas, but don't call respected people (mod's or not!) lame-ass names!

6) That's my take on it...

If you don't like people fucking with you, just take yourself out of the equation by not putting yourself in that kind of enviroment. Large gatherings of people usually involve problems, fights, etc. so don't be surprised if it happens.

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Originally posted by Natymike:
Big Wigs, don't make me bust out my prison population statistics--

% of blacks in prison --(3,892 per 100,000)
% of white in prison ---(418 per 100,000)

is that good enough for you??

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Okay I wasn't going to get involved but now you are just looking plainly uninformed!

The reason that there are more minorities in prison is because police go to search their neighborhoods more often and more severely. How many times do you see police go to a middle class neighborhood and bother white teens on the street? Not often, because their parents have influence in the government and can afford lawyers to fight any of the charges. Also white teen have cars and go to places where cops can't bother them. Minorities have to hang out in their neighborhoods.

I could go on for hours!!!

Kids in middle class neighborhoods CHOOSE to go to school and get after school jobs for extra cash. Kids in the inner city CHOOSE to sell drugs and drop out of school because it is an easy way out, their parents are poor, they do not have the stuff that middle class kids get. So they steal what they want, they sell drugs to get it, they join gangs cause their family life is bullshit.

So kids in middle class neighborhoods go other places to sell drugs, gang bang, shoot and rob people??? yea fucking right. The middle class kids have more money from their parents so they don't need all that bullshit.

why are their burglar bars on every window in the inner city??? Maybe its cause the crime rate is fucking ridiculous.

why do rap CD's in stores have twice the amount of security tags/plastic on them. You ever notice that??? Rap CD's are the most shoplifted type of music, kind of makes you think.
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Originally posted by Drizzt:
But 2thick why are the cops down in their neighboorhoods?? More than likely because they just stole something or screwed something up. Don't try and act like even 10% of the crime is done by white teenagers. We all have our morons in every race. Blacks account for 10% of the population yet do 90% of the crime, don't give me this bullshit well they had no choice. I sure have the choice weather I am going to go out and shoot someone, steal someones car, I COULD GO ON FOR HOURS.

Drizz

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So let me get this straight. Minorities commit more crimes so we should send more cops to their neighborhoods...right? That means that since the cops look for crimes there constantly, there will be more people caught for crime.

All this means is that more minorities are caught for their crimes. Why do you think that is? It is because whites commit less crime. You have to be an idiot to believe that.

Well, if the cops were looking in middle class neighborhoods as much as they were looking in the slums, they would find just as much crime.

You are useing cyclical reasonining to explain your view. That is not logical.

It is institutional racism. You don't have to be racist to be part of it.

You are told that more blacks commit crimes. Where do you get that info? If you get it from the media then you do not know the truth.

I have looked through real life statistics and real life cases and studied this for over 4 years in university and post graduate work so I would think that I would have the facts on this subject (as opposed to heresay from the media).

Do some research for yourself.

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Originally posted by Natymike:
So kids in middle class neighborhoods go other places to sell drugs, gang bang, shoot and rob people??? yea fucking right. The middle class kids have more money from their parents so they don't need all that bullshit.

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Okay, next time you want to respond to me, you should get the facts straight. I feel like I am Mike Tyson and you are a 10 year old girl (when it comes to debating you).

Listen closely, most teen gangs are made up of middle clas kids. Most teen crimes are committed by middle class kids. Most teenage drugs are used by middle class kids.

If you recall almost 90% of all of the school shootings were done by middle class teens. Middle class kids are the majority of the criminals in youth court.

Next time you want to respond, please do some research.

The only stat that matters is the per 100,000 I posted above, that stat speaks the truth.

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Originally posted by Natymike:
why do rap CD's in stores have twice the amount of security tags/plastic on them. You ever notice that??? Rap CD's are the most shoplifted type of music, kind of makes you think.

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Oh yeah, most rap is listened to by middle class teens and most teen shoplifting is done by middle class teens.

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Originally posted by Natymike:
2 Thick, when whites make up 71% of the population and blacks make up 13% of the population its pretty obvious that whites commit more crimes.

The only stat that matters is the per 100,000 I posted above, that stat speaks the truth.

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Okay what do those stats measure? Do they measure the amount of crimes committed or the amount of people that were convicted and placed in prison? What if most of the whites paid a lawyer to get probation? What if most of the poor black only had a half-ass court-appointed attorney that doesn't know shit?

You do not even know what those stats mean, do you?

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Originally posted by GLP:
I dont know but I know that where I live if I want to go out for a walk at 4 am can do it and be so fucking safe. Try that shit in the getto!

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Everyone on this board knows that you are completely wrong, More gang members are from the middle class???? hahahahah why don't you ask one of them, they will tell you that they grew up with no money so they turned to crime.

When I walk outside of my middle class neighborhood, I don't see a crowd of thugs decked out in gang clothing, you know damn well more crime occurs in the inner city, are you blind??? or just too stubborn to agree with everyone else on the board.

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Originally posted by BIG RICK ROCK:
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I have walked thru,Browns Vile, Flatbush Brooklyn, Jackson heights Queens in hours anywhere between 12am and 4am and never had any problems??
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

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I think he means white person that sticks out like a sore thumb and that has no confidence. If you act like you belong then there will be little (to no) problems.

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Originally posted by Drizzt:
Good reason 90% of the school shootings are done by middle class kids. The other ones wasn't in school at the time, he was to busy slingin some crack rock on the corner tryin 2 hustle a buck. If you were a cop where would you look for the most crime??? It would be in the group that commits the most correct??? That would be the african americans my fine fellow. The cops are there with good reason don't start feeding me some bullshit about they don't have 2 be there. I could care less I don't go in the ghetto anyway I have no reason 2 be in the slums of the city. They can shoot eachother for all I care, if the cops are trying 2 control crime thats where they need 2 be not out where there are the 250,000 dollar houses. The kids might be using drugs but where do you think the drugs are coming from bro??? I can argue about this subject quite well. There will be no winner because we share differening points of view, i am not racist against color i am racist against stupidity and that comes in many colors and forms.

Drizz

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Originally posted by Natymike:
10 year old girl??? Don't try to act more educated that everyone here, its to the point where its disgusting, I've taken many classes on what causes crime, but I don't feel I have to announce it to everyone like you constantly do on everyone of your posts.

Everyone on this board knows that you are completely wrong, More gang members are from the middle class???? hahahahah why don't you ask one of them, they will tell you that they grew up with no money so they turned to crime.

When I walk outside of my middle class neighborhood, I don't see a crowd of thugs decked out in gang clothing, you know damn well more crime occurs in the inner city, are you blind??? or just too stubborn to agree with everyone else on the board.

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First of all, debating skill has nothing to do with education. Only the amount of research you do on a topic. Secondly, I was referring to you and not other members of the board.

Have you done extensive empirical research on gangs and criminal behaviour? Well, I have so that is why I know that most gangs are made up of middle class kids.

Stop listening to the media and do your own research. You will see things in a different light.

How many times have you been in the inner city personally? Were you there all day or just a drive through? I assume you haven't so you only know what is fed to you through the media.

Crime is everywhere and Statistics don't mean crap. Yes more people in prision are minorities and No not all of them can afford good legal representation...

What do I think this means? Means those who can't afford good lawyers need to take out a mortgage or collection so they can.

WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN???? could you imagine if 4,000 per 100,000 whites were in prison, that is a huge chunk of the population, luckily blacks only make up 13% of the population or this Country would be a shithole.

Whether you like it or not, just by being black, you are statistically higher to be imprisoned, but I guess its cause the police harrass the blacks right, please.

you keep looking at the overall majority which means nothing. "Whites commit more crimes" NO SHIT!!! "More whites are on welfare" NO SHIT!!! When whites completely outnumber blacks by such a huge margin, they will commit more crimes. BUT THIS IS OBVIOUS!!!

by the way, did you know that 1 out of 3 black juveniles in Texas is under some form of criminal control?? I guess the cops are just racist, even the black ones.

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Originally posted by GLP:
Well the nearest getto around here is in columbus and have had to take my ass off from there a couple times from a gang of assholes starting shit. not going to fight when it is 6 on 1.

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Pussy!

I would have battled them out, and if it was too many of them I would have pulled out my 9mm, Niggas don't respect me but the fear me.

" cooling on the scene like a horse in a stable the brother got i'll tried to snatch a phat cable, I steped back like it wasn't no thing I crushed him in the jaw with the Fat Gold ring, I had an Ace in the hole when it came to the "BIG RICK you where packing?" You know I was strapped posse kept coming they where starting the rhytim so I unbottoned me denin, they kept coming just like I figure so I steped back and STARTED SPRAYING NIGGAS, what a way to go out out like a sucka But I'm on track like a Long Island train...... cause I'm HOUSING!"

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Originally posted by Natymike:

Whether you like it or not, just by being black, you are statistically higher to be imprisoned, but I guess its cause the police harrass the blacks right, please.

I guess the cops are just racist, even the black ones.

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Yes, since they are told more blacks commit crimes, they are sought out more often.

No the cops are not always racist. It is institutional racism that is the problem.

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Originally posted by fistfullofsteel:
just want to know what point you gentlemen are arguing.

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Ummmm, I don't know... but it's kind of fun to piss these white dudes off.

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Originally posted by Drizzt:
I am not talking about people of power that bring drugs into the country bro. I was talking about the one supplying it 2 them IN THIS COUNTRY. Not the guys over in columbia that are dealing in large amounts of drug traffic. Ya right 2think its evident your ass has never been 2 a real ghetto. You act like all whites are welcome down there if you think that you are stupid. You walk your ass down here in Detroit on Grand River Avenue and you are gonna get shot or mugged. Pull your head outta your ass and see the real world not what your stupid ass books are telling you is real. I have seen the inner cities I have been down there, pulled up next 2 guys that have pulled guns at us. Your books don't mean jackshit 2 me. Real world results mean the real deal bro. I highly doubt you have been around the "ghetto blacks" that threaten 2 shoot you for not even talking 2 them. So until you have 2 deal with the real deal just stay 2 reading your books and acting like you actually know what you are talking about.

Drizz

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Originally posted by 2Thick:
We are arguing why there are more blacks/minorities in prison per capita than whites

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let me think, cause they can't get away from the cops as good as other people? just joking.

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Originally posted by Drizzt:
Ya right 2think its evident your ass has never been 2 a real ghetto. You act like all whites are welcome down there if you think that you are stupid. You walk your ass down here in Detroit on Grand River Avenue and you are gonna get shot or mugged.

Drizz

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So you assume you know my life? That is quite insulting. You don't know where I have lived and it is ignorant to assume that you do know. So you are saying that people who read books can't come from a ghetto?

How do you know I am not black?

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Originally posted by MP5:
2thick, you are the classic democrat! Don't blame the blacks, blame the white cops for watching them too closely! Give me a break.
I live in Colorado and they post police reports in the paper and guess what...99% of the people in the arrest reports for crimes are mexicans. Big shock. Why is it the gang bangers are always black or mexican?

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It is not the cops. It is institutional racism.

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Originally posted by MP5:
Why is it the gang bangers are always black or mexican?

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Look, as you know there are MANY different theories on what causes crime, I have done extensive research, written many essays, studies many books. The theory I agreed with most was the one that blamed crime on the environment. I don't recall who's theory it was or when it was written by, but my view has nothing to do with the media. I could sit here all day and try to prove my point, but there is no way you would EVER agree with me. And I sure as hell will never agree that more crimes like gang bangs, armed robberies, and auto theft occur MORE OFTEN in middle class neighborhoods. Yes highscool kids like to do drugs and get in fights, but armed robberies and auto theft?? please they have too much going for them.

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I AM GERMAN INDIAN AND IRISH WHAT A MIX EH?

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THAT I HAVE SEEN FROM MY OWN EYES THE MAJORITY OF BLACKS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE THEIR FAMILY OR ANYONE ELSE....
AND ON THE OTHER HAND THEIR ARE MANY WHO HAVE MORE RESPECT AND THINK MORE ABOUT OTHERS THEN I HAVE EVER SEEN FROM ANY RACE.

I AM JUST CONFUSED I THINK. I THINK IT ALL NEEDS TO END SOME DAY ITS GETTING OLD!!!!!

ALSO HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SCHOLARSHIP FOR A WHITE HONKEY THAT MAKES GOOD GRADES?????
NO I DON'T THINK SO BUT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH ABOUT 110000000000 PAPERS WITH THE TITLE
"BLACK PREGNANT MOTHER"
"BLACK DRUG ADDICTED MOTHER"
AND IT GOES ON AND ON.

I THINK WITH ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT BLACKS HAVE NOW THEY SHOULD BE MAKING BETTER PROGRESS INSTEAD OF STAYING IN THE SAME PLACE. WE CAN'T HAND YOU THE MONEY WHICH WE DO TO MANY GET OFF YOUR ASS STOP STEALING STOP MURDERING YOUR FREINDS AND GET A JOB
McDONALDS ALLWAYS HIRES!!!!!!!!!!

I AGREE WITH BOTH SIDES!!!!!!!!!