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Guru Posts: 5511 |
fuck it all black, white, brown, yellow, butt pirate, or what ever, If A person treats me with respect they will get it back, If they act like an asshole guess what they will be treated like an asshole. And will be handled. As for scholarships that is the only subject that I don't agree with, I don't care who you are or what school you have gone to. You can't argue this. [B]THEIR IS ALOT OF BULLSHIT GOING ON, WHY IS THIS ALLWAYS WONDERED. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 295 |
ive never had a problem with racism when i lived on the west coast. im from california, and played bball and football in high school. most of the people i hung out with were black. for the most part they were cool as shit to hang out with. however, when i moved to the "dirty south," it was like i was in a whole different racial climate. most black people around here act like the world owes them something for the pain of their ancestors. also they think that they dont have to obey the rules that other people obey just because they are black. shit like that really pisses me off. the worst part is that they usually get away with it because of their skin color. if that isnt racist i dont know what is. i got no beef with any race, but i do hate the "dirty south nigga" mentality. you know what? the white people here blow too. im sorry but the sterotype that white people from the south arent very intelligent is pretty well grounded. actually i cant stand the south period. it fucking sucks raw assholes. wish i was back in cali. BTW Florida doesnt count as the south so no dis to any floridians out there. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 554 |
2Thick you crack me up... Which of the following statements do you agree with? 1. Poverty leads to crime. I'm leaning towards #2. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 362 |
I've never seen the number of replies grow so rapidly, as they did on this thread. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 23 |
I think I have a unique prespective on this as my 2 best friends ( more like family ) are black.. They moved here in the 4th grade from Liberia to escape a coup, and we have been best friends since the day they came to school.. They were raised under a much different value system than you find in the states.. Since their government was overthrown, they didnt have any money, and lived in low income housing.. Their mom worked 3 jobs, and they had paper routes.. They had to much work ethic, and values to go on the "system".. They went to college on money they saved, and worked while in school.. They both graduated in the top 5% of thier class, and are the hardest working men you could ever meet.. We talk frequently about the racial situation in America.. They get a good laugh about American blacks talking about Africa, as they really know nothing about it.. For the most part, they have a strong disliking for American blacks.. They think they are disrespectful.. For example, we went to see the movie " Saving Private Ryan ".. During the first 15 min or so of the movie, its very intense and dramatic and sad.. There were some thug gangster types a few rows behind us laughing and making jokes.. One of my friends gets up, walks back to them, leans over and says to them " why is everywhere I go you niggers are giving me a bad name".. They then got up and left.. I think also its important to remember that there are rejects in every race.. We have white trash, niggers, spicks, etc.. In my opinion, you can lump all these people in together as they are all scum... Another story is once when we were in high school we went to a rap concet in a city 2 hours away.. There were only 3 other white guys there besides me.. My friends from Africa were more scared than me.. I remember looking over and seeing one of them putting his wallet in his front packet, and taking his watch off.. I , or anyone else could go on and on, as this is such an intense and emotional topic.. To sum it up on my part though, I dont agree with affrimitave action, as I think a persons own merits should make or break a job.. I think there is a case of reverse racism in this country.. Blacks, and minorities are being catered to on unprecidented levels.. Being a young white male, you are pretty much the devil.. I think where you are raised contributes directly to wether you will end up a criminal or not.. Finally, this debate is pretty much total crap as nothing will change.. Like I said earlier, it is far to intense.. My grandmother always told me never to argue over religon or politics.. These days, I think we need to add race to that.. As soon as it is brought up, peoples ears shut tight, and their mouths open wide.. I hope that no one has taken any deep offense on this board, and that we can all continue to be friends, and help each other out.. Steelplate | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 269 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 130 |
Steelplate, that was the best reply to this thread so far. I too have met Africans before and they had the same contempt for African-Americans that you described. The things that they would say would make you think that a Klan member was mild. Apparently most Africans feel that way, especially the ones who have immigrated to the United States. This African man I met in college came over when he was 16. He said that he avoided African-American teens like the plague back then because all they ever tried to do was pull him down. His most memorable quote, "How will they ever stop acting like the way that they do? If you try to make something out of yourself you are labeled a sell-out or an Uncle Tom. To be a drug dealer gets more respect than someone who completed college. For every African-American who has a positive attitude, there is 3 who are jealous that try to keep him down." Very interesting indeed. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 554 |
Good post steelplate...your examples prove my point: crime leads to poverty, not vice versa. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1114 |
Steelplate sounds like your friends didn't buy into all the shit and is the type of men most would or should strive to be like | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 312 |
quote: Just the facts from www.naawp.com Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year. The facts from a 1995 FBI report. www.fbi.gov | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 526 |
I couldn't find that report on the FBI website anywhere. That must mean that you got it from the naawp website. Where are those facts from? Find another source that is reputable. That is complete and utter propaganda. Using fear to recruit members is complete bullshit. That would be similiar to someone posting a report from the nation of islam. Please..... ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 526 |
Just to even the score.....
Shoot To Kill: These recent killings are the culmination of a series of brutal beatings and murders of residents during the administration of Mayor Dennis Archer, and Detroit residents are demanding the resignation of the Mayor and Police Chief Benny Napoleon for continuing to support a "shoot-to-kill" policy. Detroit police killings have won the city the distinction of the highest rate of murders by a police department in the United States. The policy of "shoot-to-kill" is also the policy of the U.S. Marines, CIA and Mafia hit men, and is fast becoming the de facto policy of civilian police forces throughout the nation. The armaments, supplies, computerized and military vehicles, combat and intelligence training, and values of U.S. police forces are similar to that of military forces in many nations which serve exclusively to suppress their local populations. In Georgia, at the School of the Americas, the United States trains military leaders from Latin America in torture tactics and death squad operations to oppress and rob the little people of a continent. How many of those professors of death are training the Detroit Police? A friend from Spain recently remarked that the conduct of American police forces reminds her of the treatment of civilians by the police and military during the Nazi regime in Spain under General Franco. In addition, some big corporations are making tremendous profits from this massive domestic weaponry. The U.S. armaments industry, one of the leading sectors of the global economy and the major export of the United States, makes billions of dollars annually from domestic and international sales of weapons and support systems. The increasing globalization of the economy is rapidly intensifying the gap between big wealth and workers. With this process everywhere there are the usual suspects: downsizing, privatization, outsourcing, union-busting, a growing disrespect for people of color, youth, and workers, and everywhere there is the expansion of the police and military forces to maintain the old order of exploitation surrounded by a sea of riches. In Michigan, this police "shoot-to-kill" policy goes hand-in-hand with the "shoot-to-kill" policy of Governor Engler�s cuts in domestic services and fundamental democratic ideals. The massive cuts in services for health care, the closing of mental health institutions, the elimination of home rule, the opposition to affirmative action, the take over of the Detroit judiciary�all reflect a "shoot-to-kill" domestic policy. The opposition to urban and rural environmental The globalization of the economy by the giant corporations is a world wide "shoot-to-kill" policy that wreaks havoc in American urban neighborhoods by grabbing the land, health and safety in the inner cities from Detroit�s Brush Park to Los Angeles� South Central. The "shoot-to-kill" policy steals the wealth of diamond mine workers and their families in South Africa. In Nigeria, residents who live near the oil deposits suffer from chronic health problems and police The "shoot-to-kill" policy is responsible for the fact that mothers, teenage girls and war refugees in Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Union, and female immigrants across the globe are being brutalized and sold by the tens of thousands into slavery as prostitutes throughout the world. And in the industrialized nations, and in states such as Michigan, women are increasingly the victims of impoverishment, and are filling the prisons as never before. But this is not simply the time for complaints; this is a call for peoples� action and empowerment. This is not a call to hear the usual speeches of eloquent politicians, but a call to form a grassroots movement to make fundamental changes in the system right now at the local and national level. In the process of building such a movement, we must reach across borders and boundaries to join hands with others who seek social and political and environmental justice. As we demand the resignation of the mayor and police chief, we must also demand a democratic method of selecting officials to oversee the police by the working people and in the community and not by big corporations. We must demand that police at every rank will be personally liable for their corruption, abuse and murder. We must demand that the training, selection, and discipline of police be supervised by elected community representatives at the top level who are not allowed to take money or benefits from big corporations. We must demand that the profits be taken out of the prison industry and that the administration of prisons and other penal institutions be turned over to elected officials whose objective is to rehabilitate the inmates so that they be returned to the society prepared to make a positive contribution. We have to call for a living wage for all those employed and a guaranteed wage for all residents. We have to demand the restoration of social and health services to all people and a new and positive environmental policy that is compatible with good public health. This approach to education will help the youth to feel empowered to participate in the positive life of the community. This approach will compel the youth to use their energy in creative ways to begin to make changes that will contribute to a better home and (Charles Simmons teaches journalism and media law at Eastern Michigan University and is co-chair of the Committee for the Political Resurrection of Detroit.) ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 138 |
ryker77, I thought you would never post those statistics again. Not only do they come from a highly uncredible website. I visited the website to see if your information was credible. The website is biased and racialy motivated and further more racist. Next time you post statistics please post them from a more credible source such as DOJ,DOC and other federal agencies. The stats are incorrect. I know they supposedly came from www.FBI.gov. but they are not directly quoted nor cited properly which does discredit those stats. Try www.albany.edu. they have links to a Criminal Justice Sourcebook which is directly cited from all major angencies. TIf you saw the statistics provided from it, you will find out that you are mislead and misinformed. No flame just saying illustrating the need to provide credible information to support your claim. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 85 |
quote: I know you didn't ask my opinion but what the hell. I feel that the two probably have a | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 629 |
cant we all just get along? ------------------ | ||
Moderator Posts: 7079 |
quote: I would say that there are too many factors involved in that complicated equation to place blame on one or the other. ...but if I had to choose one then I would be more in favor of the first one (as long as the person accepts society's ends without accepting society's legitimate means). | ||
Moderator Posts: 7079 |
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Finally, most violent crimes (especially MURDERS) are committed by people that know the victim! Once again, the media is a lying whore! So, all you worry-warts need to relax on the "scary black criminal" tip. | ||
Novice Posts: 7 |
EVERYONE!!!! its only a matter of time/the croud has control(there is strength in numbers) Gawd! I love Savannah's St Pattys..but just like Marti Gras its gonna happen like a time bomb " ticking" then it will be Marti Gras all over again- No More St Patrick. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 379 |
God this is a fucking long ass thread, what is the record? ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 85 |
How the crime would cause poverty... and not vice versa? The problem is caused by these reasons: Blacks' income is poorer that whites' (caused by poor social foundations) = crime Blacks appreciativeness towards thug culture & innate cultural arrogance combined with black favoring media & political programs = aggressive behavior towards easily fooled whites
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Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 554 |
In the past, an individual committed a crime because he/she needed something for survival (i.e. food). This is just not the case anymore (especially in the USA) so why do people do it? A junkie robs someone to get enough to pay for their next fix but what was their perceived "need?" To consume an ILLEGAL substance...this is already a crime. I realize this is a generalization but I'm just trying to get everyone to think a little bit. ------------------ |
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