BRR BREAKIN OUT THE NWA!!!!

I liked the nwa.

Most of the kids that were arrested in Philadelphia riot were white, upper middle class punk ass bitches from New Jersey! FACT!!!

I think touching a woman sexually is wrong. But i dont understand why these women, mostly white women parade around showing their breasts, and other parts of their body for plastic beads. When I was at Mardi Gras mostly white males were touching, harrasing and taking photos of these girls.

Life is hard no matter what color you are. You are not going to get something for nothing, but if you want a good solid career, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE.

Black people are more racist than white people anyways.

This is exactly why more blacks are in jail than whites. This exactly is why racism persists.

The common attitude is that black people are violent, criminal and are poor citizens. The police, judges, etc. feel this way because most of them were raised with that method of thought. That same thought process will let a white suspect go for a minor offense and yet would place a black person in jail for the same offense.

I would love to see how some of these racists would feel if they could be black for a few months. They would get no second chances from authority figures. They would get hassled by police for just driving at night. They would be looked at suspicously in stores, etc.

Let me ask you a question: How would that make you feel? If it were I, I would hate white people. I would want to punish them for treating me that way. I would want justice. Unfortunately, most of the black population is poor and has no political voice. Money buys political process.

Racism will not end because all of these racists will have children and teach them the same values. This is a continuous cycle that will never end.

"By any means necessary" -- I can understand that completely. And I'm not even black.

I agree that we cannot change the past and that we should move on, but it is totally fair for them to at least be taught the history of their own poeple. White people have that benefit. Black people haven't until recently. Indian's still don't.

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ah...it finally comes up. i have been wondering about this for some time now. take NBA basketball for instance. i have seen many games with all 10 players on the court being all black. why is this? well most likely it is because they are the most talented on that particular team. they will make the team better and more of a success.

so now in the business world.
why should it not be the same. you hire the best employees and that is it. why should you get the job because of your race. you shouldnt and that is a fact.

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Originally posted by Drizzt:
You are like mp said a classic democrat stop kissing black ass. They commit more crimes, they fuck up more than other races, I didn't say they are all bad, but a large percentage of them sure the hell are. Deal with some of the ones I deal with then you will change your tone. I don't give a fuck if you lived in 20 other countries its still evident you haven't dealt with the class me and naty have. If you had you would be singing a different tune. So just keep kissing their ass when one of em rapes your girlfriend or holds a gun on you just because of your color, don't come crying to us because we told you so. I am through aruging the subject with you you are 2 close minded to carry on a open minded discussion. You only see your way and nobody elses because since its your way it has 2 be right ya sure thats it.
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Drug laws in this country affect the poor more frequently than that of any other demographic. For example.....The crack/cocaine disparity. The penalty for using/selling crack is more severe than selling/using cocaine. Crack is an epidemic that affects mostly the poor who can afford the substance. The weathly tend to buy and use cocaine. If you are caught with 5 grams of crack(worth $100)in most states you may recieve up to 10 years in prision. If you are caught with 500 grams of cocaine ($6,000-10,000 depending on quality) some states only have a minimum sentence of 5 years. If anyone knows how to make crack you will know that 500 grams of cocaine can be steped-on and made into 2000 grams of crack. Depending on quality($40,000-50,000). This law obviously benefits the rich.

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Thank you for the great information. It is nice to see another open-minded person on the forum (that actually does research on his own accord).

Amen brother!! Your words are music to my ears!!

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Originally posted by Drizzt:
You go suck some more black cock u piece of shit liberal bastard. All you do is kiss their ass when they could care less if you live or die. I think people like you are the funniest espically when one of em fucks you over real good, then you are always confused on how they could ever do that 2 you. Because after all you like them so much. They could give a shit less about you dude wake up and smell the fuckin coffee.

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You seem to have a lot of anger inside of you. It is not healthy.

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Wfab if you agree with affirmative action then here is a big "fuck you" right in your direction. That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever seen in my life i hope they take away that law like was being discussed. If you are to stupid to do a job thats your own fucking fault not mine. They have the same opportunites to learn that I do if they dont' take it then fuck em they don't deserve it. You go suck some more black cock u piece of shit liberal bastard. All you do is kiss their ass when they could care less if you live or die. I think people like you are the funniest espically when one of em fucks you over real good, then you are always confused on how they could ever do that 2 you. Because after all you like them so much. They could give a shit less about you dude wake up and smell the fuckin coffee.

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Ummmmm, so tell me about your childhood, did your mother breast feed you as a child?
did your daddy play catch with you and teach you how to shave?

in the suburbs I consider my home, the wealthy black people were more harsh against non wealthy blacks then any Klucker or urban cowboy wantabe ever was. It's amazing how ideology will change people once they have money to protect themselves and their faimly...Best known example I have

a black study group at my highschool started protesting for classes to teach black history...As a counterprotest a group of wealthy black students were holding signs to tell them to grow up and read a book if they wanted to know their history.

this shit wasn't new for my school...A good portion of the students about 40% were wealthy, another 30% were middle to upper middle class the rest were probably Low middle class and a handfull of people might have been considered Poor....Predominately white, about 3% of the school was black 4% asian, and 6% hispanic. The school paper took a survey and asked if people felt that specific races were treated better over others. over 70% of the entire school was polled and unless their was a false report less then 2% of the entire group polled felt their was a "race" problem

What you might be asking does this have to do with anything...Simple...The Race argument is Bullshit, it's something people of ALL races trick themselves into their heads to think so we can ignore what the REAL issues should be. Uncle Sam telling us how we are to live our lives. My point of this story was to bring about a very real issue and that is MONEY...

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[B]over 70% of the entire school was polled and unless their was a false report less then 2% of the entire group polled felt their was a "race" problem

What you might be asking does this have to do with anything...Simple...The Race argument is Bullshit, it's something people of ALL races trick themselves into their heads to think so we can ignore what the REAL issues should be.
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Although I do not want to question the infinite wisdom of US high school students (I'm being sarcastic!!), there are people who actually study the facts and do research called social scientists that say there is a problem.

I would personally believe the social scientists over the bubble-gum knowledge of the average US high school student.

A gang who robs and rapes two teenage girls Or a CEO of a company getting slapped on the wrist for cheating customers out of MILLIONS.
The media loves street crime eventhough it only constitutes about 10-15 percent of overall damage to our society

I believed in that poll cause it was given and answered by people who dealed directly with problems headon. I wanted to make it a point that the percentage of black students and other minority races were far more then the percentage of those polled who felt race was a issue

I can't trust most national polls because how do I know in my given area, City, then state, so on and whatever that what people deal with and experience can be the same as someone in the North east or North west. Based on those experiences how fair is the wording of the questions?

I think race is a bullshit issue. I think if people would just follow the damn golden rule then none of us would worry about this shit. I mean shit, give someone a chance to do something right or wrong before you make that judgement on them, reguardless if it's based on race, nationality, or religous faith.

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Black people are fine.

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Don't you think black people should be taught about their history here in America?

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Were you hibernating the month of February??? did you not notice that it was BLACK HISTORY MONTH. Did you not notice that every telivision station ran program after program on Black History?? how can you make a statement like that especially right after February, thats ridiculous.

Unfortunately, most of the black population is poor and has no political voice

yet another ridiculous statement, first off, I know people who would get offended by that remark, your implying that the black population is poor and on welfare. And secondly NO POLITICAL VOICE???? have you heard of JESSE JACKSON, AL SHARPTON, and the thousands of other Civil Rights leaders in this country raising hell over nothing???

Did you read my Taco Cabana thread a while back?? 2 black guys went to TC in Austin at 4 am and they would not serve them, this has personally happened to me 2 times at the same location, they do it to everyone. Well, you geussed it, the 2 bro's filed a civil rights lawsuit for discrimination. These lawsuits are everywhere and they are all bullshit.

Chris rock said it best---"There are 2 types of black people, theres black people, then theres niggas, niggas always fucking shit up then they say its not us its the media, SHIT WHEN I GO TO THE MONEY MACHINE TONIGHT, I AIN'T LOOKING OVER MY BACK FOR NO MEDIA, I'M LOOKING FOR NIGGAS!!!!" ---this is the reason there is a sterotype, but don't blame the white people, blame the niggas.

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man, whenever i say ANYTHING i get fuckin flamed and called a racist..

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Don't worry, mad, I don't flame you and call you a racist.

Shit, maybe I shouldn't have replied to you. Now everyone is going to say that I'm a racist. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Learn how to use the "R" word before you go throwing it around, people. This thread has been nothing more than a two page whine. I almost didn't finish reading it all.

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2Thick can you please cite this information.

Statistically blacks commit crime at a higher rate, this can not be denied. It is not however because they are a "evil race" or anything like that. I think the answer lies in econmic reasons.

"I agree that we cannot change the past and that we should move on, but it is totally fair for them to at least be taught the history of their own poeple. White people have that benefit. Black people haven't until recently. Indian's still don't."

That above sentence is in the same thread dumbass. "Haven't until recently" means just that.

Anyways, the majority of black people in the US are below the middle-class income range nearer to poverty. Money buys politcal process pure and simple. Jesse Jackson and all the rest only jump in on something when it is "large" enough to help further their careers. The average black person wrongfully arrested or suffering injustice has no Jesse Jackson to help them. Money also buys good legal defense. You following me so far?

Do you realise that there are black people still alive who suffered through segregation and police intimidation? Shit, that was less than 50 years ago.

Just ask yourself, "How would you feel if you were black in America?"

Just think about that for a second. Me, I'd be angry. Very, very fucking angry.

2Thick, BigRickRock.....thank you, for having the intellect and wisdom to see past all this BULLSHIT being flung around. Racism should not be tolerated.

For all of you who don't like niggers, spics, chinks, etc.....move to Idaho where you can hang out with your Nazi buddies, cause the minorities are not leaving. Get used to it.

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One thing you guys are completely missing when you are talking about the percentage of blacks who are in jail compared to the percentage of whites in jail. That maybe true but perhaps another way to measure crime is to ask, what it cost individuals like you and me? WHAT ABOUT WHITE COLLAR CRIME which is usually committed by rich white men. If you added up all the monetary damage caused by crime (ex. stolen property, tax freud etc.......) white collar crime equals around 90 percent of the total pie. Why does this shock people? What Intrigues people more when watching the news

A gang who robs and rapes two teenage girls Or a CEO of a company getting slapped on the wrist for cheating customers out of MILLIONS.
The media loves street crime eventhough it only constitutes about 10-15 percent of overall damage to our society

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Thank you for the intelligent and well put argument.

BTW- This is the TRUTH!!

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Statistically blacks commit crime at a higher rate, this can not be denied. It is not however because they are a "evil race" or anything like that. I think the answer lies in econmic reasons.

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You are wrong. More blacks are caught, convicted and sent to prison. That does not mean that they commit more crimes.

BTW-I will dig up those studies (about middle class kids) for everyone to see.

Also, consider that the majority of people locked up in America are serving sentences related to drug possession or selling.

If a cop pulled over a car full of white kids headed to the beach and found a joint he may let those kids go cause they're just "young and stupid".

If that same cop pulled over a car full of blacks or latino's and found a joint, he would have them all against the wall and handcuffed.

That is the truth. I've seen it happen numerous times.

A large majority of people in prison are there for petty offenses. I totally agree, who's more dangerous, the young black kid who got busted for carrying an 1/8th of weed or the corporate bank executive pilfering invested funds?

It is unfortunate that the black youth is what it is. In the same respect, white trash teenagers are often just as poor. But their rate of violent crime per capita is much lower. I believe this to be a result of geography. White "projects" are the trailor parks. They are spread out in rural areas outside of the city. But the black ghettos are squished together into a tiny area in the cities. I believe that when you cram too many people into too small of an area, they will begin to act like caged animals. Anyone who has ever lived in a college poorly funded college dorm can attest to this.

And much of this has to do with role models. Gangsta rap places these violent thoughts into impressionable minds. Kids often cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality....even at 18. If you read the anabolic board it is easy to see
So they think that it is normal to "not give a fuck" because their idol Snoop says so. Then there are the older kingpin pushers who get the kids at a young age to sell drugs. The idea of making $2000 per week is just too tempting for the average poor kid to pass up. And again, since they are crammed together in the ghetto, it is easy for the drug dealers and gun dealers to reach a large population since word travels fast in the projects. I'm sure that if the wannabe little white gangstas were presented with guns and drugs to sell, they would do it too. Young white kids from the suburbs are just as stupid as young black kids from the projects.

Ok lets look at homicide numbers then. They are considered to be the most accurate crime figures. In 1999 blacks and a 25.6 (8911 total) per 100,000 offending rate compaired to a 3.5 (7938 total) that whites had. the numbers are very similar in there vicitimzation rates.
Generally homicides are treated very seriously, when one occurs police must a have a good case to arrest the person. If you commit a murder, and there is evidence you will be arrested no matter if you are white or black.
I am not denying that in less serious crimes that blacks may be arrested more often. But I do not think that this is the sole reason that they are over represented. I think as a society we have to own up to this. We need find out why they are committing these crimes and do something about it.

If this thread dies before you find that info, please email it to me [email protected], i am very interested in seeing them.
Thanks a lot.
Engine9
homicde stats(http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm)

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Originally posted by Myo-genetic:
I had a friend with a 3.7 out of 4.0 and a 31 on the MCAT get passed over in favor of a (rich) black girl who had a 29 and a 3.4. How do I know this? Because they studied together and were good friends. He is happy for her and she feels really bad for him. But this exactly defines what black people struggled to overcome for so long. I dare someone to try and justify this. If someone does, all I can say is that I pity you.

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You have made some valid points.

Although, I do disagree with your assumption that you friend was passed up because he was not black. First of all, medical schools look for a well-rounded individual and for a person with character. There is always an interview involved in medical school applicatons, so maybe she was a better person with better personal/people skills than your friend.

I know what medical schools look for and I have seen plenty of well-rounded people with lower (but still above average) marks with a great personality make it into med school when homely people with a 4.0 and a 32 MCAT were not accepted. Race was not the issue, the person was the issue.

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"You are wrong. More blacks are caught, convicted and sent to prison. That does not mean that they commit more crimes."

Ok lets look at homicide numbers then. They are considered to be the most accurate crime figures. In 1999 blacks and a 25.6 (8911 total) per 100,000 offending rate compaired to a 3.5 (7938 total) that whites had. the numbers are very similar in there vicitimzation rates.

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He eventually got in, but it was not until almost a year later and at a much lower quality of school.

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I agree that we cannot change the past and that we should move on, but it is totally fair for them to at least be taught the history of their own poeple. White people have that benefit. Black people haven't until recently.

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so by recently I guess you mean 30 years??? yea thats pretty recent, good observation.

and quit calling us racists because we do not agree with bullshit civil rights lawsuits.

And if you were black you would be angry?? Angry at white people right?? thus you would be racist, which once again proves my point that black people are more racist than white people.

"Murder is insignificant" Statistically speaking? like ignoring life or what? Those two words should never be placed together.

ok and Im out, come out fighting.

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Originally posted by Natymike:
so by recently I guess you mean 30 years??? yea thats pretty recent, good observation.

and quit calling us racists because we do not agree with bullshit civil rights lawsuits.

And if you were black you would be angry?? Angry at white people right?? thus you would be racist, which once again proves my point that black people are more racist than white people.
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Originally posted by Myo-genetic:
That IS pretty bad to make a statement like that about murder.

A victim of a robbery, an assault, or a rape will eventually get over it. But murder is permanent. I really don't know what else to say as I feel someone should just not go there.

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It is the truth. Murder is not significant statistically. It may be viewed as society as the most important crime against humanity (which is might be) but it doesn't make it any more significant statistically. This is especially true when you are trying to use emotion to make it look like blacks are murderers (and bad people) even if they are not being caught more often for other crime. You are putting them in a no-win situation.

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I usually just read these to chuckle but:

"Murder is insignificant" Statistically speaking? like ignoring life or what? Those two words should never be placed together.

ok and Im out, come out fighting.

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Yes, when figured into all of the crime committed in the US, murder is a very small percentage. That maks it statistically insignificant.

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Example:Though the Term of Murder is something everyone can agree upon the way a City, county, or state may record it and it's "legal" determination might be different

Are people who are convicted of manslaughter do their vicitims count under the murder tally or the manslaughter tally?

vicitims who are killed threw reckless driving are those accidental deaths? manslaughter or murders?

and 1 final

someone who dies as a result of a product that is willingly defective, are those accidents, or murders?

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Statistically speaking, murder is insignificant when looked at compared to all of the crime that is committed in the US. Just because they are caught for committing more murders does not mean they are more likely to perform a criminal act. This is because over ~70% of crime is property crime. Your argument still does not hold water.

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Wfabrizio - no I am not a firefighter or anything like that, the name is from a song. I am currently a senior in criminology(i am completing electives). However I do have a limited knowledge of those ares and it is not hard to see why crimes are commited. If a child grows up in these areas all that he sees is this lifestyle, he will begin to accept it as the way he is supposed to do things- baiscally these kids never have a chance.

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Yes I do. How about you? Do you believe your own thoughts?

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Murder is considered the worst crime in this country, I think people would be more concerned about these number then numbers on burglery. If you are just going to ignore statistics, well then there is no point to continue this discussion. I just provided a clear example and you have ignored it. I was going to go and try and find some self-report statistics on crime but what would be the point? Your argument would be that the government screwed with the numbers or something like that but you would still provide no evidence.

Wfabrizio - no I am not a firefighter or anything like that, the name is from a song. I am currently a senior in criminology(i am completing electives). However I do have a limited knowledge of those ares and it is not hard to see why crimes are commited. If a child grows up in these areas all that he sees is this lifestyle, he will begin to accept it as the way he is supposed to do things- baiscally these kids never have a chance.

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Okay you tried to prove that black people commit more crime on the US than do white people. I proved you wrong. You then said that they are caught for more murders. Okay, what do you want me to say? The stats are relatively accurate. But murder is very rare compared to other types of crime. Why do you have a problem with that fact?

NOW I know why you think the way you do. It is because you study criminology. That is part of the school of psychology. You like to medicalize everything and blame nature, and dysfunction for criminal behavior. You do not even consider the social aspects.

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Originally posted by madbomber31:
man, whenever i say ANYTHING i get fuckin flamed and called a racist.. even an innocent comment like "mexicans looted my shit"... but slickassbiatch, the defender of racial bounds has yet to come on here and chastize anyone... what gives?

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The stats are relatively accurate. But murder is very rare compared to other types of crime. Why do you have a problem with that fact?

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There is not point in debating you. You are on the total opposite side of the fence from me. We are 100% against each other's views.

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We finally agree lol, I have just heard this all before, as I am sure you have, and nothing here has changed my views. I hope nothing I said was taken as a flame, I respect your views I just do not agree %100 with them.

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I like a good debate. I look forward to future ones.

Did anyone else notice that? as if using 2 stun guns isn't the same as what the other cops did...Perhaps the media didn't talk enough about how much PCP was in Rodney Kings system at that time as to wonder how he could take those blows and continue getting up and trying to approach the officers.

I thought it was sad that what happened to him, but I think it's more sad that he couldn't listen to instructions but instead continued moving to the cops which was percieved as a threat. I bet those cops don't feel bad after the fact knowing he probably would have ripped threw them after seeing his toxicology report.

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Originally posted by GLP:
Fuck it i am not done with this topic. My 80 year old grandma was beat up and almost killed by some low life blacks and my ex girl was raped by guess who blacks. If that happend to a 80 year old black women there would be riots! remember when they found those cops not gulity of doing there jobs,A little to harshly. There were riots and violence against whites but when OJ was found not gulity did we riot no!If you disagree with me FUCK YOU because I am right on this subject. This is total bullshit!Most of you know the score some of you have your mouths on the NAACPS dick. And if you dont like me posting the truth go to hell.

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Why are you so angry (besides the whole grandma biting and GF raping thing). I am not making fun of what happened but why do you think 3-4 people are representative of 40,000,000 people?

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Originally posted by thefantom1:
I think a big problem in the black community is the lack of a father figure.. I see it all the time.... single mothers raising kids..I also feel a that problem is that the welfare system keeps giving people (black, white or whatever) more money for each child that they have... I used to work at a hospital and we had a black mother come it with 10 children and each and everyone of them had last names... I could not believe it...I know they all had different last names because she showed me her green card (free health insurance card) and all the kids were listed....I really think that the father figure is a huge part of the problem.....Just my useless 2 cents

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You are right. I wouldn't say it is only in the black community but our society is structured in a hierarchical pattern and a stable family reinforces that structure. When the father is missing then the hierarchical structure is foreign to the children and it makes life difficult.

Most of the poorest people in the US are from single parent families!