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Burning_Inside

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posted February 27, 2001 09:51 PM

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I call this volume one because something tells me I'm going to be posting a lot of these types of oddities on this board that I see around where i live. Maybe it's everywhere though, and not just here who knows..Anyway...

Why is it that I always see black men with overweight white blonde girls? I see this a lot around where I live, does anyone else? Does anyone have any idea why black men are attracted to fat blonde girls? It's just one of those things I always wondered why. Why not a hot blonde chick? Why a fat one?

Another thing along the same lines....

I see a LOT of "older" black men with young (15-16 or so) white girls. I see this more as I come in towards the "city". What's the scoop here? I have a few theories, one being that young girls go for them because the media portrays the black hip hop stars and such like gods, and you know how youngsters are swayed by "cool" stuff. So they tend to think that it's cool to be with a black guy or something.. Or, maybe it's just for free drugs in exchange for sex? Dunno. I say that not as being stereotypical, but man, honestly, around here, chances are if you see a black man in and around the city, there's a 99% chance they either deal, or their best friend does, trust me, I've been around enough to know this for a fact, so I'm not basing that comment on being stereotypical or something..

OK, well, that's all...


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posted February 27, 2001 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Burning_Inside:

Why is it that I always see black men with overweight white blonde girls? I see this a lot around where I live, does anyone else? Does anyone have any idea why black men are attracted to fat blonde girls? It's just one of those things I always wondered why. Why not a hot blonde chick? Why a fat one?

I see the same thing where I'm from.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:02 PM

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If you guys weren't thinking in such racist terms (although I am not saying you are), you would also see lots of white guys with fat blonde chicks and a lot of white older guys with young girls.

In Canada, they do not make a big deal about the color of skin since there was never the whole slavery issue to deal with (except in small areas of Quebec). It is normal to see many different skin hues together without assuming any stereotypical thoughts.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:07 PM

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2Thick,

not every observation is racially intended. I make the same observation often. It's just my eyes seeing stuff, not necessarily my mind forming an opinion on it.

Consider his comments against the backdrop that in NY (and the other places I've lived, which are many) you RARELY see a white guy with a black girl, overweight or otherwise.

Also, none of us non-Canadians ever dealt with teh slavery issue either. It's kind of an ingrained media thing say black and white.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:11 PM

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maybe they're not fat, they're just pregnant!

seriously, i've never noticed.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:14 PM

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i'd just like to point out a very IMPORTANT correction matt made to 2THICK... they werent thinking in "racist" terms but "racial" as matt said... not all black/white issues are RACIST...


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Stereotypes do not require thought. That is the dangerous thing about them. They seem like common sense but are in fact "implanted thoughts" (for lack of a better term).

Noticing an interracial couple in this nation in 2001 is not from culture shock (considering this is the technological age) but rather from ingrained stereotypes reinforced by the thought that you could never think that way yourself.

I am not immune but at least I know it is there.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:16 PM

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I knew I couldn't escape getting a racist remark from someone, no matter how non biased and observational I made this post.

Just like matttheskywalker said, It's an observation, just because it involves black people doesn't automatically make it racist, and I'm sick of that closed minded politically correct attitude that people looove to take anymore on subjects like that.

If I was thinking in racist terms and trying to base it off that, I would have something probably like "I'm so sick of seeing white chix with black guys, what the fuck, can't they stay within their own race? It makes me sick!"

But I didn't did I? No, I merely asked a question that I dervived from using my eyes in everyday life, and that's all.


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posted February 27, 2001 10:18 PM

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Just a quick note...

There is only one race on this earth. The human race.

The only difference is ethnic and skin pigmentation.

I hate using the term race or racist because it is a media-contrived categorization of groups.


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Now I'm just waiting for someone to tell me that I am racist and I don't even know it because I chose to observe the difference in skin color between the 2 people in the relationships that i see..

I'll warn you now, don't even think about it.


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i notice it also,its no big deal,there is this group of girls at my school that hang out at this skank club and fuck all the 20-30 yr old jamacians and one girl even went to jamaca with the guy,crazy shit,they dont touch white guys and always slam on us

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posted February 27, 2001 11:47 PM

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I've noticed it in some places around the country. I have hardly known any white guys that have dated a black girl...I have seen more black guys dating white girls. Some have been fat some have been not. Cant say I would classify all those guys as good looking but thats not my problem

I don't think making reference to an observation on this subject makes it "Racist" just another observation untill someone starts degrading it...

Personally I believe in different strokes for different folks


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2Thick, you jumped on whoever started this post for being stereotypical and condemmed him. I seem to remember you making some comments about NASCAR fans.......

The point was that we never see black men with hot white girls, it's always nasty ones. That's what we don't understand.

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quote:
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2Thick, you jumped on whoever started this post for being stereotypical and condemmed him. I seem to remember you making some comments about NASCAR fans.......

The point was that we never see black men with hot white girls, it's always nasty ones. That's what we don't understand.


Okay what part of "I didn't write the article" didn't you understand?

You do not know what my intentions were and you are foolish to believe that you know what I think.

Good day, Sir.


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Maybe the fat white chicks are more prone to "handle the load" if you know what I mean.

I usually see black dudes with fine-ass white girls though.


P.S. I'm going after a black chick in my business class, she's fuckin HOT! Oh yeah, she's nice too.


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STUDCJ:

Haha..handle the load..You mean the load in their wallet? Haha.

Seriously tho, not all black guys are huge, really. Not all Asians are small. You get the gist.

But speaking of handling the load, have you ever been with a fat girl? I have..a few actually..and if you have ever been with one, you will notice that for somer eason, they are real loose. You wouldn't think so, but they are. I think it's because the muscles under the fat are just so loose and everything sags and has no tightness to it.


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2Thick

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It is the same as asking why a cat with black fur mates a cat with orange fur. It sounds absurd to ask "why" because a cat is a cat no matter what color the fur is.

When you ask why is a black man with a white girl, you are assuming that there is a difference between blacks an whites and that it is odd to see them together is a specific grouping. If that isn't discriminatory, then I don't know what is.


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Burning, this post is pretty awesome.

I've been with some fat girls. I guess three I would consider fat and I don't think fat had anything to do with tightness. One was loose, one was average, and one was tight as hell.

I've been with skinny girls and some have been loose, some were average, and some have been tight.

I don't know what the explanation for it is.


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Black dudes love big fat asses---not all but alot do----look at some of the videos (mtv) alot of the chix in the rap videos have some serious back yard----JLO is nice looking but she has a fat ass---To big for my taste but puffy loves that shit!


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WOMBAT: haha, good one!

2thick, let's set the record straight here.

The bottom line is, and I don't care wether a: you agree with me on this, or 4: you think I'm even more descriminatory than you think I am now, but listen to me for a second.

There is a difference between blacks and whites, just as there are differences between Asians and Latins, or any other sort of "race" of human. Yeah, we're all the same human race, but there's differences among us, and calling them "races" is sort of misleading, as yeah, there is only one race, the human race, and I also wouldn't go so far as to say different species, cause it's not that either. Whatever it is, let's just say "versions" for now.

You used the cat analogy, but it doesn't really work in your defense of your arguement, because anyone in their right mind knows there's different types of cats. You have your persians, your siamese, etc. As you can see, this totally debunks your arguement. Yes a cat is a cat, but, there are different types of cats, just as there are different types of humans, just as there are different types of frogs, dogs, penguins, anything. Humans are just another species on the planet, and we have variations within our species, just as in any other species, that make certain collectives of us distinguishingly different from certain other humans.

You have to see the light on this, and stop with the political correctness that's been burned into your brain from years and years of "we're all the same!" stuff. Yes, we are all human, that's what it means, but we're NOT all the "same", i really wish people would star using human instead of same. See, I'm comfortable enough with this fact to realize it, and secure enough in it that it doesn't bother me that there are different types of people in this world, nor should it bother anyone. That's where the real racism comes into play.

I would even go so far to say that people who use your arguement actually aren't secure enough in this fact, as they take what they are taught about all people being equal as face value, and refuse to go into it with any more thought;almost like you're afraid to delve into it deeper and contemplate the whole matter They/you gent bent out of shape when someone brings up something about it, as your brain starts telling you "No this is wrong! this is bad what he/she's saying! He must be racist" because you just have it burned in your head that it's gotta be "this" way as you were taught, and no other way at all. maybe it's because a lot of people think the matter is too complicated or taboo, and don't wish to dabble in the area of clarification on the subject, or maybe people are just too darn lazy to try; they're just comfortable in their foggy rut. Who knows. But you gotta look more into this matter if it's so important to you, you have to wipe away the condensation on the part of your brain that is preventing you from seeing through the window to the outside. Give it a shot. Once you understand where some other people come from, you'll have a better understanding of where you're going.


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Okay, after living in 10 countries including the US south and Canada, I will tell you that what you are trying to sell is actually racism hidden in "the beautiful individual snowflake" parable. I have seen different regions react differently to ethnicity and it is awful in the US.

Your line of reasoning could be used to explain why some types of humans are superior to other types because they are just naturally better equipped for "this or that".

When I talk to people or see couples, it doesn't occur to me what color they are besides the obvious.

The reason you look like bigots is because you ascribe traits to "black" men and their "white, blond, fat chicks".

You can pretend that you are not "racist" but you cannot do anything about it unless you admit to it.


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2thick:

All I can say is just give yourself time to grow up, maybe in a week or so, your eyes will finally open.

I also can't even see why someone with your godlike, know it all attitude is even a moderator. Moderators are meant to keep the peace, not call someone racist when they clearly are not, You're an instigator, plain and simple.


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Grow up? I would assume having *** ******* ****** and working on a *** would be grown up enough.

Wow, I bet you were the kid in the playground that would throw a hissy fit if he didn't get the kickball that he wanted...LOL.

I have lived more than I wish to remember. I think I have grown up enough for a few lifetimes. Thank you for your concern but I think it be better that you go back to your "American Dream" (or as like to call it, the "American Illusion").


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Wow, I've never ever in any messageboard anywhere ever seen a more unprofessional, inconsiderate, and ignorant mod such as yourself.


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And what concoction of intoxicating substances leads you to that conclusion?


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Ok, its true there are alot of mods here in elitefitness... kind of trying to cover all the aspects society: black, latino, woman, gay, the redneck, etc... not all of them deserve to be mods but i think 2Thick is actually one of the better mods, because he posts alot and he�s coherent, defends his ideas and, more important, he doesn�t have problems with going against the dominant lines of thought in the board...
And yes burning your comments are racist and your observations are not very accurate...


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Ass freak:

If you really really really think that mere daily observations of living that I made are racist, you are sad. Did you even bother to try and comprehend that big long letter i wrote a few posts up? Probably not. You're most likely just another person who had it burned into their brain that if someone speaks about this subject a certain way other than you are accustomed to the general media portrays it, then I must be racist.

Personaly, I just think you're 2thick's personal ass freak. H'es unprofessional. He doesn't conduct himself the way a mod should. Mods are entitled to their opinions, however calling someone a racist is I think borderline base for a defamatory lawsuit. That's uncalled for, and for pure idiots like you and him to actually write on here that I am racist/making racist remarks, is about as ridiculous as you have 2 brain cells to rub together.


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it isn't that the chicks are fat. they just have "ghetto booty," hence the term "ghetto booty"

you know,

g-h-e-t-t-o b-o-o-t-y

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Burning,
I've noticed the same thing you have and I've discussed it with my friends. A close friend of mine in college(who is black and prefers white women BTW) told me that it is a status symbol of sorts for him. Go figure.

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2Thick (Alex Haley), if you didn't write that post then i guess someone stole your password and posted that.

Once again, you are making excuses for writing something ignorant.

And what the hell is this "have a nice day sir" crap? If you are smart like you claim in every post, you could at least show it sometimes.


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hell, I will admit it, I am racist as hell! I dont brag about it but i dont hide the fact either...I know every race strives to better their own, except when a white man does it he is a white supremacist, when a minority does it he is a civil rights hero, go figure..anyway back to the topic , my opinion is this: black men fuck anything that moves and from what i see treat there woman like shit, these "fat white girls" have low self-esteem and and a basically preyed upon cuz they dont think they can do any better. A stong woman, black or white isnt going to put up with the bullshit, so they find someone who will....


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quote:
Originally posted by CrazyThug:
2Thick (Alex Haley), if you didn't write that post then i guess someone stole your password and posted that.

Once again, you are making excuses for writing something ignorant.

And what the hell is this "have a nice day sir" crap? If you are smart like you claim in every post, you could at least show it sometimes.



What are you referring to? Which post? And who is Alex Haley?

The "have a nice day, sir" is called mannors. Maybe you have heard of them.


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Nevermind telling me who Alex Haley is. I just found out.


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2Thick,
It's clearly you trying to be a smartass when you write have a nice day. Don't to BS and don't try to be someone you're not.


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quote:
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2Thick,
It's clearly you trying to be a smartass when you write have a nice day. Don't to BS and don't try to be someone you're not.

You should try to stop being so emotional. It only brings out the worst in people. Remember that people only stop using logic and start using emotion when they are frustrated and wrong (and can't find a logical way to be right).


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I notice the same thing, but its not just fat white women, but all fat women, I don't get it, but to each his own.

Everyone have a nice day now


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I admit I've noticed this too. I even went so far in college to take "polls" from some black guys I knew. I was talking with a group of guys from a black fraternity and this fat girl walks by. She would be hot if she lost about 70 lbs, but she was clearly overweight. And I had always wanted to ask. Since I figured this was the perfect opportunity to find out, I suddenly asked the group if they thought she was hot. All except one said yes. He said, "HEALL NAW! I don't touch that ghetto booty shit!" I then told them that most white guys wouldn't touch her unless she lost weight. One guy said that when you are around overweight women in the family for long enough, you get used to it. It's just how you were brought up.

The ideal of thinness is a new phenomenon in the history of man. Up until the late 50's, a size 12 was considered ideal. Now that is considered borderline obese. Look at the painting of Venus. That was histories version of Cindy Crawford. The woman who posed for that picture probably weighs about 150 if she is 5'5". You look at other paintings from all eras that are obviously "glamour shots" and you see the same trend....all the women were easily 160 and above. But they were considered perfect in those times. They cast Kate Winslet for her role in Titanic, as she represented the physique of the average rich girl back in those days.

So I don't think it is a racist observation, but rather an observation of something that is very prevalent in the black community. I've lived with two black men in my time in college. You would be amazed at what you learn.


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If you think black people are somehow different then you are thinking in racist terms. This goes for blacks and whites.

Deal with it.


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If you're going to notice wack azz sh*t like this, take a look at the black men with the fat white chicks. Uusually black women don't want their stank azzes!

I don't know any goodlooking men(of any race) who wants a fat white women unless she's paying him to sex her LOL!


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TxCollegeguy

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posted February 28, 2001 07:03 PM

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how is it racist when someone thinks someone is different because of race? Does that mean we are all racist because we know our skin color is different in some cases?Does that make it racist to observe differences that can be seen in some races based on hair or eye color?

No one is exactly the same and I think it is crazy to call the thoughts on observations made based on race "racist"


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I think 2thick might mean that if you are taking the time to post about something like this that means it takes up some significant space in your mind, which makes you racist. I dont think that is true. I think someone can make an observation based on their life experiences about the different races and not actually be a racist. How about this one: Have you ever seen a homeless Asian? And pusuing an advanced degree does not necessarily make someone a "grown up", as Im sure people with PhD's can fuck their lives up just as good as the next guy.

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posted February 28, 2001 07:24 PM

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Myo-genetic, that was a very cool post, wow, it single handedly answered a few nagging questions I've had for a while...

The racist issue is something that will never be solved on this planet, but whattayougonnado?

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posted February 28, 2001 09:12 PM

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I just want to say that I dread coming back to look through this post. My heart starts beating faster in anticipation of who is going to jump down my throat next, and you have_no_idea how aggravating and how much it burns me up inside to know that out there somewhere in this world are people that adamantly think of you to be a certain way, case closed, when you KNOW you clearly aren't.

It burns me up to think that there's people out there that will take your use of a basic nature given right of something as simple as pre observation, and turn it and twist it and mold it to mean something else, no matter what you say.

This post was just, as I stated, a simple observation of things I see around where I live on a somewhat daily basis; see if people can relate to it at all, and just give everyone something to do in their spare time. I'm just glad that there's people out there that share my views on the difference between pure harmless observation, and racism, of all things, it makes me feel good to know that there's open minded curious people in the world besides me.


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posted February 28, 2001 10:04 PM

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black males will have sex with anything that walks, and since white men usually dont want fat girls, the fat sluts have nowhere else to turn to.
BTW: ARE WHITE GUYS REALLY THAT BAD???


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posted February 28, 2001 10:27 PM

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Model1: Good point, I'll look for that.

JayO: I think Eminem said it best, "I'll fuck anything that walks".


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posted February 28, 2001 10:58 PM

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i dont know what it is, but the brothers like that sloppy white pussy....

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The Whole F/N Show

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Well I must admit there are brothas who do that fat white girl thing so I can't say much on that. But to say any black guy will do it is bullshit. I'm black and I got standards goddamit! The girls I get whether black, white, spanish or other are up there or better than what most fellas get IMHO.

[This message has been edited by The Whole F/N Show (edited March 01, 2001).]


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posted March 01, 2001 12:09 AM

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Hey Show

if you have women close to the standards like you've been posting pics of I will have to check out Atlanta more before I go visit Athens next time


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myo is right on with the "booty factor." to each his own...

You must understand though that you cannot decribe a booty just in terms of size. The eskimos have 33 words for different types of snow, black guys have a comparably large vocab when it comes to booty appreciation.


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TxCollegeguy,

Chill in Buckhead one weekend and you'll see some fine ladies. There are plently here in Atlanta plus there's more women then men here too. And whether it's pictures I'm posting or chicks I'm dating I do have extremely high standards when it comes to women.

1. Cute face
2. Nice chest
3. Nice ass.
4. Preferrably nice long hair.

And the most important thing with me in terms of looks....NO FATS CHICKS!!!

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posted March 01, 2001 01:43 AM

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So I guess theres not going to be a Volumen 2?

Yea Im with you FN SHOW, But ass is second on my list after face.

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posted March 01, 2001 03:32 AM

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There will be a volume 2, but I don't know when, I guess when something hits me as being odd and one of those things that just make you wonder.


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quote:
Originally posted by 2Thick:
If you think black people are somehow different then you are thinking in racist terms. This goes for blacks and whites.

Deal with it.


And you must be blind. Because one observes differences doesn't imply superiority or ranking. To use the "cat example" if I see a gray cat and a brown cat and I say "oh look, there is a gray cat and there is a brown cat" does that imply i am somehow a "cat racist". Racism exists, but labeling all who make any observation based on race diverts attention away from legitimate racial problems and issues. Remember the story of "the boy who cried wolf". Finally, there are Differences between the races. Anyone who does not recognize this does not understand the basics of natural selection. Different races evolved differently based on environmental factors they were faced with. We should learn to appreciate the differences and diversity and not hide behind either "racism" or "political correctness".

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