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Author | Topic: Do you AGREE or DISAGREE? | ||
Moderator Posts: 2749 |
Agree or disagree with the following statement: The large majority of people dream of success as a child, then, when their dreams do not materialize, spend a significant portion of their lives attempting to justify their "non-success" to other people, through whatever excuse is popular. | ||
Freak Posts: 2525 |
Oh yes. | ||
Mutant Posts: 3367 |
Nope, I think most of them spend a significant amount of time on lawn care. | ||
Olympian Posts: 1914 |
LOL @ Wodin...actually, I agree with you and Wodin; all failed men spend significant amounts of time doing lawn care when they aren't justifying their failures. | ||
Mutant Posts: 3686 |
Agreed for the majority of them. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 477 |
No, not popular excuses...the crafty ones make up their own as they go along.. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1420 |
quote: i've said it a million times matt, most people will never accept responsibility or accountability for their misfortunes in life! it is much easier to blame their surroundings! ------------------ "I'll kill you and your dreams, then begin you life" dracula 2000 | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 722 |
I blame the blind. fuckers. ------------------ | ||
Freak Posts: 2021 |
i've accepted full blame for mine... but it has taken me until now to do so... actually, i take full blame for some others misfortunes too, just for knowing me | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 848 |
Agreed. -Warik ------------------ BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!!! | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 440 |
I was born a failure, so I can't blame anyone, I just grin and bear it. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 357 |
Wow, Matt. You've actually met all my employees? Small world....... ------------------ | ||
Freak Posts: 2408 |
I have very nice grass. I have won awards for it. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 970 |
my dads done pretty well and he was very specific about how the yard was going to look, I know cause he went over it with a fine tooth comb... but yeah I agree with that statement Matt | ||
Mutant Posts: 3367 |
I got lawn doctor for the grass and a little oriental guy who does our yard, Mr Hung. That man can design shit for a yard that will make your jaw drop!!! | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1070 |
Agreed but I've got concrete and tarmak so I'm fucked. | ||
Mutant Posts: 3272 |
I agree that it applies to many people, however, my main dream was to play in the NFL, but I hardly ever find myself telling people about my old football successes and failures. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 669 |
I always knew I would be a success. I am working my way through college right now. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 541 |
I agree that most don't take responsibility for themselves. ------------------ Copyright � 2001 TheMachine Company, Inc. | ||
Olympian Posts: 1914 |
No offense Lord Dread, great that you have confidence, but I know a few guys who were going to be successful, "made their way" through college and are now serving me my burger and fries...a couple have legitimately come up against hard times, but the others brought it on thmeselves. The most successful people are not the ones who talk about being successful...they just do it. | ||
Freak Posts: 2114 |
Lately my goals have changed. I used to want to be really rich, etc. Now I just want to be able to go hunting, pay my bills, and drive a dependable vehicle. I was born poor, probably die middle class. I am trying, but it seems I am always a day late, dollar short. College degree did not get me shit, now everyone wants a grad degree. I think I am going to go be an electrition, and go fishing a lot. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1037 |
I find myself reevaluating the meaning of success constantly. Its current definition for me is not having to give the best years of my life to some fucking corporation and still have the means to do what I want when I want. If you guys think success is earning a million bucks a year by working 100 hours week, your in for a rude awakening. IG | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1335 |
i disagree. when people sense failure, they change their goals instead of admitting said failure. Puc | ||
Olympian Posts: 1748 |
I agree that most people spend more time making excuses for their failures and feeling sorry for themselves than they do actually trying to achieve their goals... Success, for me, used to be MONEY, plain and simple... Now that I want to be a high school teacher instead of a lawyer, though, I consider "success" a decent job, nice house for my family and I, and enough spare time to so the things I enjoy...There's a big opportunity cost for making millions, and it's not one I'm willing to pay anymore... ------------------ | ||
Freak Posts: 2114 |
The hard part is knowing when to admit defeat or failure. I feel like I have failed already as far as getting a good finance job out of college. My parents and brother don't understand, they don't work in the industry and tell me to hang in there. I am ready to bail and try something else. They are still in the old school where they feel like a bachelors is all you need for a great job. I work in a call center for fucks sake, I make trades for mutual funds but there are dumb-fucks here without a degree doing it. ------------------ | ||
Moderator Posts: 1870 |
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Freak Posts: 2408 |
If I dream it I can do it. I have lived a life time of goals. They almost never have anything to do with how much money I can put in the bank. What is failure - when I broke my back and had to stop my wrestling career? Is that failure? I came back to break my collar bone. Was that failure? Or was it when I said I was to old to keep doing it anymore? I guess the failure came in when I had to make the house payment and 6 weeks bed rest didn't make any pay. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1253 |
Totally agree! Luckily I'm still young, and my dreams are still possible, and I'm doing everything in my power to accomplish these things. Maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones. I see a lot of guys from high school that had all these plans for college, football, etc.. About 1/2 of them actually are going through with it. The rest make up excuses. | ||
Freak Posts: 2969 |
I do not allow those people in my ring of friends. We like each other no matter of success and excuses or lies are not something we tolerate as friends. Yes we want each one of us to be a success, but we know we don't have to fill each other with crap, just because it has not happened yet. | ||
Moderator Posts: 2749 |
IG - I'm down with that. Trying to launch a business now. Rather spend my 20s and 30s working hard with my name on the door. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 970 |
I have seen my mom and dad work their asses off my whole life, they have made it to the middle to upper middle class. Neither one of them had college degrees and worked in sectors that didn't offer them alot of Oportunity. Mom-Solves internal problems for Chase bank, Dad-Purchasing and materials specialist in the oil gas industry. Since my dad just got laid off a few weeks ago I think he's decided enough is enough with that industry. Hopefully he will try his hand at something else. I know I just dont want to work as much as they do and feel as dispointed with my life and career. My parents feel that if anything they want my sister and I to get college degrees so they can feel better about not finishing themselves and they feel it will put us in a better position for jobs. Since they are paying for it I have felt obligated up until this point, but I really question whether or not this is whats best for me. I have ideas for things I would like to do, but no solid plan to accomplish them... | ||
Olympian Posts: 1914 |
I'm gonna tell a little story, not that any of y'all care. My BF's folks come from typical trailer trash who think the world has done them wrong, blah blah. As a result, the BF had what I call a "class" attitude. In which I mean, because he came from nothing, he FIRMLY beleived this means he will be nothing. He beleived that my mom was born to be rich, and even more oddly, he did not begrudge the "rich" people in the world. To hom, thats what they were and just accept as that. On to my folks...they boys folks were loaded compared to mine..no heat, no electricity...literally both grew up on dirt farms. My mom got a scholarship to McGill, and my old man did it the old fashioned way. two sets of folks born in similar situations. One mom is one step away from welfare, the other is currently preparing for a trip to the Orient. And FINALLY I have gotten the BF to understand that success is what YOU make of it; as a result, he got his dream job (what HE considers a dream job) and it seems he's quite good at it...and he wants to become more successful at it...NO MORE crying about how hes not good enough to be successful. |
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