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MattTheSkywalker

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posted February 27, 2001 08:16 AM

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Agree or disagree with the following statement:

The large majority of people dream of success as a child, then, when their dreams do not materialize, spend a significant portion of their lives attempting to justify their "non-success" to other people, through whatever excuse is popular.


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posted February 27, 2001 08:22 AM

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Oh yes.


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posted February 27, 2001 08:37 AM

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Nope, I think most of them spend a significant amount of time on lawn care.


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posted February 27, 2001 08:46 AM

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LOL @ Wodin...actually, I agree with you and Wodin; all failed men spend significant amounts of time doing lawn care when they aren't justifying their failures.


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posted February 27, 2001 08:48 AM

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Agreed for the majority of them.

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posted February 27, 2001 08:49 AM

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No, not popular excuses...the crafty ones make up their own as they go along..


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freak daddy

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posted February 27, 2001 09:17 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by MattTheSkywalker:
Agree or disagree with the following statement:

The large majority of people dream of success as a child, then, when their dreams do not materialize, spend a significant portion of their lives attempting to justify their "non-success" to other people, through whatever excuse is popular.


i've said it a million times matt, most people will never accept responsibility or accountability for their misfortunes in life! it is much easier to blame their surroundings!

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HappyScrappy

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posted February 27, 2001 09:17 AM

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I blame the blind. fuckers.

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madbomber31

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posted February 27, 2001 09:46 AM

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i've accepted full blame for mine... but it has taken me until now to do so... actually, i take full blame for some others misfortunes too, just for knowing me


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Warik

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posted February 27, 2001 09:51 AM

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Agreed.

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posted February 27, 2001 10:14 AM

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I was born a failure, so I can't blame anyone, I just grin and bear it.


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Zebo

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posted February 27, 2001 10:17 AM

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Wow, Matt.
You've actually met all my employees?
Small world.......

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posted February 27, 2001 10:36 AM

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I have very nice grass.
I have won awards for it.


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TxCollegeguy

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posted February 27, 2001 10:41 AM

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my dads done pretty well and he was very specific about how the yard was going to look, I know cause he went over it with a fine tooth comb...

but yeah I agree with that statement Matt


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WODIN

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posted February 27, 2001 10:44 AM

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I got lawn doctor for the grass and a little oriental guy who does our yard, Mr Hung. That man can design shit for a yard that will make your jaw drop!!!


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strengthmonster

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posted February 27, 2001 11:22 AM

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Agreed but I've got concrete and tarmak so I'm fucked.


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posted February 27, 2001 11:25 AM

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I agree that it applies to many people, however, my main dream was to play in the NFL, but I hardly ever find myself telling people about my old football successes and failures.


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted February 27, 2001 11:25 AM

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I always knew I would be a success. I am working my way through college right now.


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THeMaCHinE

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posted February 27, 2001 11:25 AM

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I agree that most don't take responsibility for themselves.

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kat

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posted February 27, 2001 11:31 AM

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No offense Lord Dread, great that you have confidence, but I know a few guys who were going to be successful, "made their way" through college and are now serving me my burger and fries...a couple have legitimately come up against hard times, but the others brought it on thmeselves.

The most successful people are not the ones who talk about being successful...they just do it.


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MP5

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posted February 27, 2001 11:33 AM

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Lately my goals have changed. I used to want to be really rich, etc. Now I just want to be able to go hunting, pay my bills, and drive a dependable vehicle. I was born poor, probably die middle class. I am trying, but it seems I am always a day late, dollar short. College degree did not get me shit, now everyone wants a grad degree. I think I am going to go be an electrition, and go fishing a lot.

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Iron God

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posted February 27, 2001 11:43 AM

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I find myself reevaluating the meaning of success constantly.

Its current definition for me is not having to give the best years of my life to some fucking corporation and still have the means to do what I want when I want.

If you guys think success is earning a million bucks a year by working 100 hours week, your in for a rude awakening.

IG


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Puc

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posted February 27, 2001 11:53 AM

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i disagree. when people sense failure, they change their goals instead of admitting said failure.

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Badkins21

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posted February 27, 2001 12:01 PM

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I agree that most people spend more time making excuses for their failures and feeling sorry for themselves than they do actually trying to achieve their goals...

Success, for me, used to be MONEY, plain and simple...

Now that I want to be a high school teacher instead of a lawyer, though, I consider "success" a decent job, nice house for my family and I, and enough spare time to so the things I enjoy...There's a big opportunity cost for making millions, and it's not one I'm willing to pay anymore...

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MP5

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The hard part is knowing when to admit defeat or failure. I feel like I have failed already as far as getting a good finance job out of college. My parents and brother don't understand, they don't work in the industry and tell me to hang in there. I am ready to bail and try something else. They are still in the old school where they feel like a bachelors is all you need for a great job.

I work in a call center for fucks sake, I make trades for mutual funds but there are dumb-fucks here without a degree doing it.

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posted February 27, 2001 12:11 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Iron God:
I find myself reevaluating the meaning of success constantly.

Its current definition for me is not having to give the best years of my life to some fucking corporation and still have the means to do what I want when I want.

If you guys think success is earning a million bucks a year by working 100 hours week, your in for a rude awakening.

IG



I agree with IG, it is up to what your definition of success is, I myself have found Money does not Equal Success or Happyness, Some people have based their whole lives to the pursue of Money but yet they are still miserable people.


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posted February 27, 2001 12:25 PM

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If I dream it I can do it.
I have lived a life time of goals.
They almost never have anything to do with how much money I can put in the bank.
What is failure - when I broke my back and had to stop my wrestling career? Is that failure? I came back to break my collar bone.
Was that failure? Or was it when I said I was to old to keep doing it anymore? I guess the failure came in when I had to make the house payment and 6 weeks bed rest didn't make any pay.


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posted February 27, 2001 12:47 PM

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Totally agree! Luckily I'm still young, and my dreams are still possible, and I'm doing everything in my power to accomplish these things. Maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones.

I see a lot of guys from high school that had all these plans for college, football, etc.. About 1/2 of them actually are going through with it. The rest make up excuses.


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posted February 27, 2001 12:58 PM

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I do not allow those people in my ring of friends. We like each other no matter of success and excuses or lies are not something we tolerate as friends. Yes we want each one of us to be a success, but we know we don't have to fill each other with crap, just because it has not happened yet.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted February 27, 2001 01:02 PM

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IG -

I'm down with that. Trying to launch a business now. Rather spend my 20s and 30s working hard with my name on the door.


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posted February 27, 2001 01:05 PM

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I have seen my mom and dad work their asses off my whole life, they have made it to the middle to upper middle class. Neither one of them had college degrees and worked in sectors that didn't offer them alot of Oportunity. Mom-Solves internal problems for Chase bank, Dad-Purchasing and materials specialist in the oil gas industry.

Since my dad just got laid off a few weeks ago I think he's decided enough is enough with that industry. Hopefully he will try his hand at something else. I know I just dont want to work as much as they do and feel as dispointed with my life and career. My parents feel that if anything they want my sister and I to get college degrees so they can feel better about not finishing themselves and they feel it will put us in a better position for jobs. Since they are paying for it I have felt obligated up until this point, but I really question whether or not this is whats best for me. I have ideas for things I would like to do, but no solid plan to accomplish them...


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kat

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posted February 27, 2001 02:09 PM

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I'm gonna tell a little story, not that any of y'all care.

My BF's folks come from typical trailer trash who think the world has done them wrong, blah blah. As a result, the BF had what I call a "class" attitude. In which I mean, because he came from nothing, he FIRMLY beleived this means he will be nothing. He beleived that my mom was born to be rich, and even more oddly, he did not begrudge the "rich" people in the world. To hom, thats what they were and just accept as that.

On to my folks...they boys folks were loaded compared to mine..no heat, no electricity...literally both grew up on dirt farms. My mom got a scholarship to McGill, and my old man did it the old fashioned way.
With ball busting hard work, smarts and ambition. The old man isnt around to enjoy the fruits of his labour, but my mother is enjoying a THIRD career in money markets.

two sets of folks born in similar situations. One mom is one step away from welfare, the other is currently preparing for a trip to the Orient.

And FINALLY I have gotten the BF to understand that success is what YOU make of it; as a result, he got his dream job (what HE considers a dream job) and it seems he's quite good at it...and he wants to become more successful at it...NO MORE crying about how hes not good enough to be successful.


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