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Author | Topic: For The Natural Bodybuilder Especially, The Importance Of Intensity... | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2573 |
Who here truly works out intensely? I don't mean hitting a set until positive failure or until you 'feel the burn.' I personally belive in heavy sets, 4-6 reps with a maximum of 8 before you up the weights. Today I realized that my intensity is not what it was before I was injured. That's understandable, injuries are pretty demoralizing, but I decided to go in today and truly give it my best while training back. I set small goals for myself, and one of these starting today is to raise my current level of intensity, which I'll call '1' to an insane level of '5.' The importance of proper intensity particularly in the natural bodybuilder is paramount. The body will only grow when it is forced to, so you must call on your very spirit to force out that last rep you normally wouldn't be able to. Same thing as when the lady lifts a jeep off her child. Here is an example of what I normally see in the gym. This isn't even my level '1' intensity: Peter is doing cable pushdowns for tris, he does 10 successive reps, starts to feel pain, does one more and feel satisfied with himself. This is level 3, I have never reached what will be my level five, so I'll let you know. He finally makes it 3/4 of the way down and then his muscles just fail, completely dead of any contraction ability. Slowly he lets the bar back up resisting as best he can. This is one of the main reasons why I was able to gain so much muscle last summer, because I forced myself to. I guess this post is kind of gay (lame) but I just go home from the gym and I'm still pumped. [This message has been edited by Frackal (edited February 25, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Frackal (edited February 25, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 748 |
i lift intensly, 3 sets of 4-6 reps heavy with 30 secs to 45 secs rest in between. I switch to 3x8 sometimes to mix it up with alittle more rest inbetween sets. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1055 |
Amen...This post works well for everyone....I hate guys like peter, the rec center here is filled with frat boys that fit that description, nothing against the frat boys here cause I workout from time to time with some hard pounding frat guys ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1212 |
Tip: If you are carrying on a conversation during your set, you are probably not working that hard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2573 |
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Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2187 |
I like to lift just heavy enough to look like I am hitting it hard so the chicks are impressed, but not hard to the point of not being able to whistle at them and talk on my cell phone. How's the back frackal? Mine is still fucked up a little and I am on prednisone for asthma so my gains are pissing down my leg. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 508 |
You make an excellent point, but I also hear people say 'be careful not to overtrain' - especially if you're training naturally without the muscle sparing benefits of gear. How do you tell the difference between training intensely and overtraining? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2124 |
latona, youll know when your overtraining. lack of sleep, irratability, lack of appitite, u feel like dog shit, etc. etc. dont confuse the two, theyre two very different things. Normally 4 excercises for a particular muscle group is plent, but this can vary from individual to individual. For example, I do 6 for chest. Sets and reps can also vary from one to another. Ah hell, its kinda hard to explaine cuz of the varitations. You kinda need to figure it out for yourself. Theres only really one way to do that. And thats to push yourself, when you hit that "over training" part, you just might know it. Sometimes I think its bs, but who knows. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2573 |
Mine is doing well MP5, I would estimate maybe 3-4 weeks before I start back with squats, stiff legged deads and such. My legs are suffering the most because all I can do is front squats and 1/3 rom leg presses. I've had some setbacks lately too, been sick twice in about 5 weeks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 508 |
Thanks, Gilbyag. I guess I know what you mean, but personally, I can never seem to figure it out. For me, there's only a fine line between feeling sore freom an intense workout and feeling sore from overtraining. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2124 |
in my o overtraining is much more than soreness. ie. legs, Im normally sore for an entire week, thats not ot, thats norm... (well, used to be, im 'on' now and cant seem to get sore for anything) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 241 |
Amen, Frackal. I can't stand how everybody throws around the term "overtraining" nowadays. The truth is that many more people that should be training harder than people who are actually overtraining. That hard truth is that the human body will only respond if it has to. Once it gets accustomed to aparticular level of exercise, you chgange the stimulus. If you were actually overtraining, trust me, you'd know it. The symptoms are rather noticable and pretty identifiable. Good post...train balls-to-the-wall!!! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1361 |
www.nuclearnutrition.com Beyond Failure Training, look in the articles. I use many principles from this type of training. I have hit a "level 5" before. an NPC bodybuilder Max Levabre worked legs with me afters hours at the gym I work at. no people, no music, no distractions, swearing, slapping each other in the face, yelling, grunting... started with calves, then BB squats, then hack squats. with hack squats: 4 plates@ 4 reps ATF, stripped to 3 plates@ 3 reps, stripped to 2 plates@ 5-8 reps (last three were forced), stripped to 1 plate a side, slapped me on the thighs "FUCK!!?!?" breathing so hard... pain was unbearable, "GIVE ME MORE!!!" so I gave some more. "ARE YOU GONNA BE A PUSSY AND GIVE UP NOW?" "SHOW ME ANOTHER" "YOU MAY FOOL ALL OF YOUR LITTLE SKINNY ASS COCKSUCKER FRIENDS VALDEZ, BUT YOU DON'T FOOL ME, GIVE ME MORE!!!" (my entire body was in the worst state of fatigue I have ever been in, in so much pain, I was afraid I was gonna pass out or puke any second..." it took me 20 minutes to recover from that one set! 20 minutes before my breathing returned to normal, I lay flat on my back for those 20 minutes panting like a dog. next day I literally could not walk down my stairs. seriously look at that website, intensity is IMHO the most important factor for stimulating growth. the easiest and best way to increase intensity is to not count reps, use them as a guidline. pick a wieght that will cause muscle failure at a good range, and keep going until if your life depended on it you could not repeat another rep. [This message has been edited by Valdez (edited February 28, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 718 |
good stuff boys, my motivation just went up a notch... ------------------ "how much can you really know about yourself if you've never been in a fight?" Tyler Durden ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1361 |
a well deserved BUMP. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2187 |
Atleast you are young Frackal, by the time you are my age you will be a monster. That fucking prednisone gave my man-boobs! My pecs are all squishy. ![]() ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 36 |
Really? What is prednisone? A catabolic steroid? ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1354 |
cortico-steroid As far as intensity goes, I never vomit. I am a firm believer in 8-12 rep sets. But frackal, sometimes I cry in the gym. Not out of sorrow or pain, but out of child-like rage. The kind you had when you were 10 and the bully took your he-man and wouldn't give it back. The tears of anger, the tears of frustration, the tears of hate. Emotions cascade into something dark, a Suicidal Rage. This drives me to dimensions of pain that some understand, but few can self-inflict. [This message has been edited by Puc (edited March 01, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 35 |
Well to be honest with you, what pisses me off is some arsehole who sees you sat recovering from a previously brutal set, breathing hard, almost dying, trying to psyche yourself up for another and says,"can I do a set while your recovering" People always do that to me I'm gonna kick some serious ass soon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 352 |
A-1 post! I had very intense days before but now it is very different. It's hard to find a gym buddy that stays on point. I rather workout alone than with someone with no intensity in their workout regimen. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1594 |
Nice post. I take every workout 100% that I can that day. Some are beter than others but all are 100% OR I go home. I always ahve folks watch me and come up after I am done to ask questions as my eyes face the floor and I am very unaproachable while lifting. Its my time. And Texas be careful of the hard pounding frat boys. (lol) I am so surprised that one did not get picked up on by some. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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