Given that they store information in 3 dimensions instead of 1 makes this possible. It also appears that the storage devices will not have any moving parts except maybe for the laser that reads and writes the info.

This can also be used for memory and cpu's as well (my belief)

Guess where my stock is going?

Someone relatively recently (within the past 2 years or so) did a cool thing where they used some everyday object to store some shitload of data (like a terrabyte) - I think it was like a clear bic pen or something. I forget what the item was, but they did it just to show they could - they still had the vibration issues as well.

But according to this article (not very technical)it will becoming out within a couple of years.

No, I have not read that book, but I know of it. Is it any good?

2)how does the brain store things holographically - I'm a skeptic on that as well - can you please elaborate/paraphrase on what the book said (and it was obviously not in meaning a strict interpretation of a laser maniplated image to imply 3d via tiny pock marks and a metal solution).

just curious b/c my "worthless" detector is going off big time in regards to that book you mention - and I don't have a copy nearby to read.

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Nueral networks have come close to modeling the brain in that it use different independent non-linear approaches to solving a problem.

In other words it is a free form solution not bound by specific sets of routines such as a flow chart.

It is like you know the name of a person and can't quite remember it. Your brain (you) starts the process of recalling the information using an infinite number of non-linear approaches until it finds what it is looking for.

As for the storage crystals they will store information within the crystal lattice. Picture a piece of glass (crystal) with information on it. It will still be clear (maybe have a tint or something to it) yet the information is not just stored on one layer, but through the thickness of the glass. And the retrieval process will go directly to that crystal position and retrieve the information.

I will need to do more research on the topic to be more involved in the discussion. But suffice it to say that the iso-linear chips of Star Trek are going to be a reality. And this computer advancement is going to give us a huge technological boost to discover new things only dreamed of a few years ago.

Well I have it on pretty good word, that they have recently scanned a shot glass of it's molecular structer and then "dissolved" it in a laser beam of some unknown frequency of light and then transported this object to another location.

I have heard this from one who works with in high powered laser industry and has no reason to not believe the source on this one.

Star Trek, maybe, but we will see some amazing things in the next 10 to 20 years.
This is one of them, holographic memory.

This was released in a high end physics news
magazine inside the laser industry, so who knows it just might be possible. I believe it can be done, maybe not organics but objects. Down the road, it may develop into
a transporter system for people. This would require proper buffering through holographic memory since it lends itself for storage on a quantum level for 3-D information relevant to the object being transported.

Speed is everything and I hope to see computers using light instead of electrons, photons are the real shit.

Let's hope we see this happen in our life times.

I still maintain that ever person in the world should have to read "The Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan, as well as "How We Know What Isn't So : The Fallibility of Human Reason in Everyday Life" by Thomas Gilovich.
Now those are good books and they help you see through the bullshit smoke screen that so much of American society seems to be content to wade through.

Sometimes it seems like they release new technology just to raise (or keep) the prices of electronics high.

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Well I have it on pretty good word, that they have recently scanned a shot glass of it's molecular structer and then "dissolved" it in a laser beam of some unknown frequency of light and then transported this object to another location.

I have heard this from one who works with in high powered laser industry and has no reason to not believe the source on this one.

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Can your friend give any specifics - references to the study - a web page would be awesome! or even a journal it was written up in? what university or company?

Sounds pretty cool - and I can think of one way to do it - but it isn't transporting it, and it isn't really doing what you described - so I'd be interested in seeing how they claim to do it.

I would think the ultimate would be to have a stationary chip and laser and manipulate the beam on a "quantum" magnetic level. No moving parts no mechanical vibration, just quantum vibration to deal with much easier in that it is not susceptible to being bumped and stuff like that.

Could lasers "disolve the glass" - probably. Glass is just a slow moving liquid anyway (I think I recall it being a colloid). But big deal, I can "dissolve" it by grinding it to pieces to - BFD.

Could lasers trasport it? No - but they could send data in binary streams.

Why would you need to dissolve the glass? I assure you they didn't really "transport" the glass anywhere.

I have a feeling what really happened and this story somehow got edited via retelling was something more along these lines - and I'm positive they can do this b/c I've worked on these machines.

1) you take in the 3D data of an object - this uses very low powered lasers - it isn't even as exciting as it sounds - there is a computer that is "watching" where the laser is and it tracks the changes as it follows the contour of the object in 3D space.

2) you then have the data, which isn't the molecular structure, but it istead just the coorindates of the object at some resolution (every mm, or smaller if your scanner can handle it).

3) you then send this data to a computer - you can even use one of them magic magnetical floppies! or you could use a laser to send if that stuff excites you - just far more work. we always just used the net.

4) this computer can then be anywhere in the world.

5) this computer is attached to a device that has one of two things. either a box filled with a special powder (basically lots of little plastic pellets), or with a special gel (another platic polymer).

6) the computer then controls lasers that follow the 3d data to heat the plastic and create the shape.

It is very rough, and very expensive, but the special effects industry has been using it for years.

And my friend that does laser research at the UofR has never heard of the "shot glass" thing you speak of.

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However, I do not rule out the possibilities of life in sub-space or hyperspace, since both are known to exist theoretically, why not life. And if so, could periodic overlapping of hyper, normal and or subspace allow temporary access to those other "dimensions" and what appears to us as "ghosts" is just a brief glimpse of another real physical world?

talbot has a huge index of all the experiments he talks about in the book -- there are hundreds of them, and no, they are not taken out of context. i've actually researched a few of them.

you appear to me as being close-minded, both by how spooked you get by the word "paranormal" and by the fact that you are dismissing a book that you haven't even read. if after reading it, you still feel it's bullshit, then good for you, but then you'll have an educated opinion.

Then the question arises what if it were a living creature would it still be alive? Would we have reassembled it accurately and correctly? And what about the Heisenber uncertainty principle which will play a big part. In fact the writers of star trek incorporated an Heisenberg compensator module in their transporter.

Obviously, if the extreme energy levels don't do you in, and the storage, transport and reassembly doesn't, are you then alive? Did you die?, are you the same as when you left?

Can this become reality? Sure, why not, but short of a technological explosion of immense proportions, not in our life time or for a long time to come.

you are right though, I shouldn't criticize the book without having read it - I apologize.

have you read Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe, Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory" - I found that to be one cool ass book - and that has some scientific backing behind it that I won't argue.

What research have you done into it? (just curious, not trying to be a jerk)

If you want a book get the book by Thorne, Misner and Wheeler on gravitation theory. The damn thing is bigger than the bible weighs like 45 pounds and is a work of genius (although, I only made through the first few chapters in independent study in college, that stuff is really intense from the start,) cool as shit, but I am not a gifted person like some here and it drives me nuts trying to fully understand that book.

I'll print a list of titles one should read if interested in gravitation theory. Mikacho comes to mind (I think that is his last name)

I love seeing the scientists bicker

my favorite tech is nanotechnology. love that stuff. my dad's company is one of the now many that does dna sequencing on a chip and that has some cool stuff on a nano scale - but what I really love is the scanning tunneling electron microscope shots of the gears made of silicone that will fit into capilaries they are so small.

fun stuff. and here I am sitting programming e-commerce sites.... boooooring

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happyscrappy -- i don't know if all the experiments (like i said, there are hundreds) this guy talks about are directly related to his theory. i also only know the basic principles of quantum theory and would not argue with anybody on the subject; i'm not a scientist. all i know is that this theory fits perfectly with how i believe the universe functions.

thoughout my life i've had experiences where i've "understood" that matter does not exist - only energy does. i guess you could call them "religious experiences". one of them was actually a very intense and frightening out-of-body experience.
i also grew up with constant first-hand experiences of psychics and ghosts and witches and all that kind of fun stuff.
these things have forever changed my views of reality.

i really resonated with this book so it's obvious that i will recommend it.

i saw the book you are talking about at the bookstore and i was actually about to buy it. it seemed very interesting. i promise you i'll read it as soon as i get through the one i'm reading now.