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Originally posted by garza:
I started laughing uncontrolably for like five minutes over the dumbest shit. saw catfood spilled out onto the floor and thought they were chocolate chips! I was about as f/d up too.

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... and you're proud of this?

-Warik

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Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but that doesn't seem like too much fun to me.

-Warik
(not a flame)

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-Warik

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Congratulations kid on getting high for the first time. I'm sure this is a sign of things to come.

Next time you're at the gym working out,(or did you give that up?) just think what great dedication you have to building a better body when you go out and get stoned.

How old are you? 16? I'm sure you have the answers to everything by now so I'll stop preaching to you.

Lol

-Warik

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Originally posted by garza:
Tom Zenk=Warik?

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No.

-Warik

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if you don't like it, don't do it, but don't be preaching the evils of something harmless. if you do have just been brainwashed by the media. sometimes it is good to have a harmless escape from reality. i'm not talking about avoiding your problems, but just chilling out for awhile when it's rough. this is coming from someone who has never done any mind altering drugs, but from my prescription after arm surgery (vicodin), i know for a fact i could cycle opiates with various other drugs without ever becoming addicted, or even tolerant probably.

i think it is sad that people here find it more than ok to be pro-drug in one sense, but so naive about it in a different sense

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Originally posted by d1734:
warik, he didn't sound like he was bragging to me.

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I never used the word "brag" or any variation of it. Please do not quote me on something unless I actually said that something.

Ok, marijuana is responsible for ZERO deaths - fine. I'm sure that if we all worked together, we could list pages of other things that are also responsible for ZERO deaths, but that doesn't mean we should be doing those things either... or should we?

I don't like it, and I'm not doing it, but I'm not preaching the evils of it either. If you want to go around and do anything from "chilling" for a while to fucking yourself up beyond recognition, then I don't care as long as it does not affect me. I find it hard to believe; however, that it is just a "harmless escape from reality." Harmless? Dude, you don't fool with your mind and then expect everything to be all fine and dandy afterwards.

Personally, instead of using drugs to "escape from reality," I spend my time remaining IN reality and using that time for more productive things.

Sorry if that bothers anybody.

-Warik

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close enough.

anyway, if you havn't done any drug then you can't understand what they are like. i had a perfectly clear and rational mind when i was under the influence of one of the most powerful opiates there is. it felt great, just plain euphoria.

"Dude, you don't fool with your mind and then expect everything to be all fine and dandy afterwards."

yep...it was fine afterwards. if you don't have periods of reality where the pain overwhelms you to the point of non-function, well, then i envy you.

bottom line on the matter: the day people make their own choice i will be happy. no if you wanna stay in reality it won't bother me a bit. that is your business.

maybe you would like to. it is impossible to overdose on marijuana, that is a fact. well, you can overdose on water by drowning but i hope you see my point.

(ie, drug related shootings, etc..)

thank you for proving my point on why they should be legal.

perhaps thinking about people under the influence driving as well...

as the saying goes, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

if anyone wants to get in a debate on drug legalization i'd be more than happy to take ya down in a heartbeat.

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Originally posted by d1734:
"... and you're proud of this?"

close enough.

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No - NOT close enough.

being proud

Yay! I broke a PR in the squat today. That felt good.

bragging

LOL I JUST SQUATTED 1,000,000LBS. YOU ARE ALL SMALL. BOW TO ME I AM YOUR SQUAT GOD.

See the difference?

And no, I don't have periods of reality where the pain overwhelms me to the point of non-function. I've had enough of those periods to learn how to deal with them. They are no longer a factor in my life. Maybe I'll teach you if you're interested.

-Warik

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BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!!!

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Originally posted by d1734:
if you havn't done any drug then you can't understand what they are like. i had a perfectly clear and rational mind when i was under the influence of one of the most powerful opiates there is. it felt great, just plain euphoria.

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just curious but wouldnt extreme euphoria diminish your "rational" mind? lack of judgement etc, since you are probably feeling a bit invincible? just a thought.

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bottom line on the matter: the day people make their own choice i will be happy. no if you wanna stay in reality it won't bother me a bit. that is your business.

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it would make me happy too, that would mean that they are capable of making intelligent decisions, use responsibly, able to support themselves, and werent a burden on society due to their addiction to said substances.

clearly this is a utopia for some, but for now that idea is scary. the

choice between reality and something other, in a reality based world........hmmm....sounds like a movie.

Proud: 1 : feeling or showing pride: as a : having or displaying excessive self-esteem

synonyms: PROUD, ARROGANT, HAUGHTY, LORDLY, INSOLENT, OVERBEARING, SUPERCILIOUS, DISDAINFUL

Brag: boastful remark: a boastful statement or display of arrogant behavior

whether or not that is close enough...bah why am i arguing. next i'll be arguing about whether or not janet reno is really a man, and we will never truly know the answer.

i'll be alright though. i came out good compared to my sis but that's a whole nother story. i do go on the occasional cookie binge for kicks but the 900mg of DNP should take care of that shit, lol.

i could go in depth but in my sleep deprived state i will give the quick and easy argument.

according to you alcohol should be banned because it is a mind-altering drug--see below.

it would make me happy too, that would mean that they are capable of making intelligent decisions, use responsibly, able to support themselves, and werent a burden on society due to their addiction to said substances.

oh wait, didn't we try that already? yes, we did. it was called prohibition. if you know anything about it murders, crime, and yes, alcohol use all went up when it became illegal. well, not up, through the friggin' roof.

since alcohol is much more harmful than many illegal drugs, what's the difference between making them legal? it get's rid of the crime (people commit crimes to support the habit and because using them is illegal of course) and gets rid of accidental OD. imagine having alcohol and not knowing what the alcohol % was. you would be hearing about OD deaths everyday.

clearly this is a utopia for some, but for now that idea is scary.

like i said, look at prohibition, it's not rocket science. i can go in a whole lot more depth but that's it for tonight.

no im not exempting alcohol either. prohibition being your arguement

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY ME:it would make me happy too, that would mean that they are capable of making intelligent decisions, use responsibly, able to support themselves, and werent a burden on society due to their addiction to said substances.

any chemical escape will obviously cause an increase in crime etc. when taken away. an infantile mind acts the same way, take away a childs toy and it will throw a tantrum and act out. a responsible adult mind is able to use in moderation or not at all. so read my statement again, and you will see that i would be happy if society was mature enough to handle such responsiblity....but that time wont come for many generations, if ever.

peace

" it gets rid of the crime (people commit crimes to support the habit)"

Yes they commit crime to support the habit, and how is this gonna stop when its legal?
Have you ever seen someone addicted to crack or heroin? I have and they are pretty much
useless. They can not hold jobs because they obsessed with getting there next fix. So
what happens after we legalize it ?- the prices will go down but they are still gonna run out of money eventually and then resort to committing crimes to pay for it.

Amen.

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Originally posted by daised:
Warik,
I think you just have to relax. Doing drugs isn't something to be proud of but it is amusing and that is why people talk about it. Life is about the stories. It's about all the things you have done. I know i will never have a midlife crisis because i take opportunities when they come my way. You just have to have everything in balance. some people can balance drugs others can't. Just remember everything in moderation.

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You say drugs are amusing?! Go ask a guy who's wife and kids were killed by some heroin addict in a head on collision how amusing it was.

People that use drugs and alcohol to get high are stupid to begin with. I especially like when someone says they can never get addicted to crack or weed.

Is this a website dedicated to fitness or getting stoned and drunk?

I am relaxed - very relaxed. I would never let something such as a discussion about "drugs are ok" vs. "drugs are pointless" add even a fraction of an iota of stress in my life. Anyway...

Your comment depends all on your concept of amusement. Please, if you will, classify the following two groups of people into these two categories: "Amusing" and "Stupid"

1) A comedian standing on stage telling hilarious jokes to a room full of people.

2) A group of 4 of 110lb young boys with 9 inch arms (no offense intended to anybody to whom this applies) at the bench press station. What are they doing? Well, one of them is bench pressing 200lbs while his other 3 friends are exerting 99% of their maximum energy to "spot" him while he bounces the bar off of his chest.

Do you see my point? I find the comedian amusing. I compare the young boys "bench pressing" to my friend who is smoked up after 5pm and speaks incomprehensibly over the telephone and does terribly in school.

I thought this was chat board on a health & fitness website. If you need an "escape from reality," then perhaps you aren't as healthy as you think you are. Too much pressure at work? Too much stress in the relationship? Money problems? Lack of progress at the gym? Why don't you spend more of your time IN reality so that you can FIX your problems instead of making them worse?

You can "escape from reality" for a few hours, but once you get back, don't expect reality to welcome you with open arms.

-Warik

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BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL!!!

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Originally posted by Warik:
Personally, instead of using drugs to "escape from reality," I spend my time remaining IN reality and using that time for more productive things.

Sorry if that bothers anybody.

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hell no, that shouldn't bother anyone. but you should feel lucky that you have a reality that never wants for change and is so fulfilling. some of us aren't so lucky.

-Warik

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you are dealt a hand in life, its up to you to either get new cards or deal with the ones you have. there is no "pretending" a 2 is a king, either you have a king or you redeal yourself one.

i find if people channel the energy they spend thinking about gettting high, procuring their drugs, or even just making up excuses....they can have the reality that they want.

just my $.02. if that sounds too tony robbins'ish for you....hey, the guy has bank. must be something to it.

I neither use AS, nor plan to do so. Hell, I rarely even visit the Anabolic forum.

Try again.

-Warik

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