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Topic: Wisconsin Females and the Law
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posted January 31, 2001 02:07 PM |
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Any female living in Wisconsin under the age of eighteen is considered underage. Under Wisconsin law, an underage minor is from age zero to age seventeen. By this same law, any one who attempts to meet with a minor under the age of eighteen with the intention of going to first base, second, etc. has committed a felony and subjected to thirty years in prison. Even if you live in another state, the victim still lives in Wisconsin and subject under that states law. Also, if one were to send sexual pictures, messages, or offers to a minor in the state of Wisconsin they have now committed another group of felonies under that states law. Once committed, these offences have no statute of limitation that I know of. Therefore, you can be charged for the crime at any time in the future. Here is the weird part about the Wisconsin law. It is a more serious felony in attempting to have sex with a minor at the age of seventeen than to actually have sex with a minor at the age of seventeen. What I am saying is:
For the love of god, be careful. The F.B.I. will go after any adult sending adult-type pictures to a minor.
The reason I am aware of these issues is that I finished watching a debate concerning these same issues. From a Harvard professor to the duke of law they each debated these Wisconsin laws I spoke about above. I felt it necessary to inform the board about this issue to keep the brothers strong, ripped and out of the clink.
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posted January 31, 2001 02:10 PM |
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whoa!!!!!!!------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 02:18 PM |
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Holy shit! Look at what I've started! I haven't received any bad pics so that's ok! LMAO! Damn....guess Y'all have to wait a few months. (too bad my two bf's before sailor were 18 and 20) I don't see how you could get caught? All the girls my age date guys that are 18-20 years old and most of them are sexually active. Our parents consent to us dating them and they are stupid if they don't know anything's going on, especially if we're on the pill as I am. They know about me and sailor (who is 22) and they are fine with it because we are responsible about it and they know that we will be together for a long time, if not forever, and he is part of the family to them also. There are just so many ways to get around the law that it's not even worth having it. If a underage girl wants to have sex with a guy over 18 they're going to have sex and 99% of the time the law won't come into play.------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 02:39 PM |
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You would be surprised. We had a Deputy who rolled up on a parked car with a guy and a girl. They were both in high school and he was 18 and she was 17. The guy was charged with statutory rape.If you are your parents ever decided they did not like the guy he would be hung out to dry. Most states if not all have a statutory limit of 7 years I believe for most sex crimes. Only murder has no statutory limit. ------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 02:46 PM |
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Well that's their own fault for being stupid and doing it in a car where a cop would find them. Here in Wisconsin we have a lot of back roads.  But seriously, your chances of getting caught are super slim.------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 04:16 PM |
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Best defense: "She told me she was 18." ------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 07:33 PM |
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Best Defense: "Dont fuck with a minor"------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 08:29 PM |
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Dread Lord, you been following the Mark Chmura trial? Out of curiousity, does it work vice versa for women w/ males under the age of 18? ------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 10:00 PM |
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If wisconsin is any thing like kansas then most land is private and all it takes is one nosey neighbor or farmer to report a suspicious car. Or for a deputy to pull up on them. Believe me it is easier than you think to find you out in the woods parked in a car. Remember we were young once and we know all the good spots!Beware. Ignorance won't play in a court of law. ------------------
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posted January 31, 2001 10:53 PM |
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Mark Chmura, yes somewhat. I think he made a bad choice in being where he was, but in reality they do not have proof he did what they claim other than what that girl said. In court she sounds like a real bitch. If he gets off he will be lucky, I do not think he will be convicted of rape but they will get him on the other charge. Say, bye bye career. Yes, gender does not matter in the eyes of the law, but, jurior's tend to be much less harsh of a younger male and older female. [This message has been edited by Dread Lord Good Guy (edited January 31, 2001).]
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posted January 31, 2001 11:05 PM |
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I think rex is fantasizing about a older woman.
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posted January 31, 2001 11:35 PM |
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I feel bad for all the cheese heads, here are the laws for NY:New York Penal Law S 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another
person to whom the actor is not married who is incapable of
consent by reason of some factor other than being less
than seventeen years old; or
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she
engages in sexual intercourse with another person to whom the
actor is not married less than seventeen years old.
Rape in the third degree is a class E felony. S 130.30 Rape in the second degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the second degree when,
being eighteen years old or more, he or she engages in
sexual intercourse with another person to whom the actor
is not married less than fourteen years old.
Rape in the second degree is a class D felony. Sec. 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A male is guilty of rape in the first degree when he
engages in sexual intercourse with a female:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being
physically helpless; or
3. Who is less than eleven years old.
Rape in the first degree is a class B felony. [This message has been edited by BIG RICK ROCK (edited January 31, 2001).]
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posted February 01, 2001 12:45 AM |
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this is not about sailor girl but..my experience with wisconsin girls are that they tend to seek out the older guys. in my "town" they would actively seek the guys working at the plant so they could move out of the house and be "on their own". scaryyyy. i doubt this is indigenous to the area, but since the topic was brought up, i thought i would share. haha. but they couldnt catch me. im the gingerbread man and left the state!!! 10 yr reunion is in august...i cant wait to see the devastation life has had on some of the fellow alumni. ------------------
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posted February 01, 2001 08:27 AM |
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these are indiana lawsIC 35-42-4-3
Sec. 3. (a) A person who, with a child under fourteen (14) years of age, performs or submits to sexual intercourse or deviate sexual conduct commits child molesting, a Class B felony. However, the offense is a Class A felony if:
(1) it is committed by a person at least twenty-one (21) years of age;
(2) it is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force or while armed with a deadly weapon;
(3) it results in serious bodily injury; or
(4) the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
(b) A person who, with a child under fourteen (14) years of age, performs or submits to any fondling or touching, of either the child or the older person, with intent to arouse or to satisfy the sexual desires of either the child or the older person, commits child molesting, a Class C felony. However, the offense is a Class A felony if:
(1) it is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force;
(2) it is committed while armed with a deadly weapon; or
(3) the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
(c) It is a defense that the accused person reasonably believed that the child was sixteen (16) years of age or older at the time of the conduct.
IC 35-42-4-5
Sec. 5. (a) A person eighteen (18) years of age or older who knowingly or intentionally directs, aids, induces, or causes a child under the age of sixteen (16) to touch or fondle himself or another child under the age of sixteen (16) with intent to arouse or satisfy the sexual desires of a child or the older person commits vicarious sexual gratification, a Class D felony. However, the offense is:
(1) a Class C felony if a child involved in the offense is under the age of fourteen (14);
(2) a Class B felony if:
(A) the offense is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force or while armed with a deadly weapon; or
(B) the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge; and
(3) a Class A felony if it results in serious bodily injury.
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(b) A person eighteen (18) years of age or older who knowingly or intentionally directs, aids, induces, or causes a child under the age of sixteen (16) to:
(1) engage in sexual intercourse with another child under sixteen (16) years of age;
(2) engage in sexual conduct with an animal other than a human being; or
(3) engage in deviate sexual conduct with another person;
with intent to arouse or satisfy the sexual desires of a child or the older person commits vicarious sexual gratification, a Class C felony. However, the offense is a Class B felony if any child involved in the offense is less than fourteen (14) years of age, and it is a Class A felony if the offense is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force, if it is committed while armed with a deadly weapon, if it results in serious bodily injury, or if the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
IC 35-42-4-6
Sec. 6. A person eighteen (18) years of age or older who knowingly or intentionally solicits a child under fourteen (14) years of age to engage in:
(1) sexual intercourse;
(2) deviate sexual conduct; or
(3) any fondling or touching intended to arouse or satisfy the sexual desires of either the child or the older person;
commits child solicitation, a Class D felony. However, the offense is a Class C felony if it is committed by using a computer network (as defined in IC 35-43-2-3(a)). IC 35-42-4-9
Sec. 9. (a) A person at least eighteen (18) years of age who, with a child at least fourteen (14) years of age but less than sixteen (16) years of age, performs or submits to sexual intercourse or deviate sexual conduct commits sexual misconduct with a minor, a Class C felony. However, the offense is:
(1) a Class B felony if it is committed by a person at least twenty-one (21) years of age; and
(2) a Class A felony if it is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force, if it is committed while armed with a deadly weapon, if it results in serious bodily injury, or if the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
(b) A person at least eighteen (18) years of age who, with a child at least fourteen (14) years of age but less than sixteen (16) years of age, performs or submits to any fondling or touching, of either the child or the older person, with intent to arouse or to satisfy the sexual desires of either the child or the older person, commits sexual misconduct with a minor, a Class D felony. However, the offense is:
(1) a Class C felony if it is committed by a person at least twenty-one (21) years of age; and
(2) a Class B felony if it is committed by using or threatening the use of deadly force, while armed with a deadly weapon, or if the commission of the offense is facilitated by furnishing the victim, without the victim's knowledge, with a drug (as defined in IC 16-42-19-2(1)) or a controlled substance (as defined in IC 35-48-1-9) or knowing that the victim was furnished with the drug or controlled substance without the victim's knowledge.
(c) It is a defense that the accused person reasonably believed that the child was at least sixteen (16) years of age at the time of the conduct.
(d) It is a defense that the child is or has ever been married. [This message has been edited by Joseph_stalin (edited February 01, 2001).]
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