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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 10:22 PM

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i hope this proves that im not a pussy and that i really workout
http://content.communities.msn.ca/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=Robbiespicpage&ID_Topic=2


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 25, 2001 10:30 PM

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those prove yourself?
I'm by no means huge and am a little embarassed to post any physique shots on here, but I looked like that before I even started working out - but I was more cut.

I don't mean that to be an insult, and as long as you are relatively recent to this and you aren't using any AS - then I'd say keep working at it and keep the drive and the positive thinking.

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JohnnyO

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posted January 25, 2001 10:34 PM

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well that looks different than the other ones.. you are bigger than I was at that age definately .. you take your piercing out?


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 10:35 PM

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those were taken in october,and i started at 135 of 25% bodyfat and that was nov 99 those pics were oct 2000 i think i made a decent change im 165 there,i didnt have the nipple done then

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Motorhed

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posted January 25, 2001 10:36 PM

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UH....Keep up the hard work?

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ANGEL OF DEATH

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posted January 25, 2001 10:36 PM

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CANADIAN OAK? MORE LIKE CANADIAN JOKE!
LAY OF THE HO HO'S AND DING DONG'S AND START TRAINING RIGHT AND YOU'LL BE A TINY LITTLE PINE TREE IN NO TIME.

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Steelheart

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posted January 25, 2001 10:37 PM

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MAN! I thought you were older man!!!!
Anyways, hang in there kiddo.

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May1010

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posted January 25, 2001 10:38 PM

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Canadian Oak -

Keep it up. You'll cut up and you'll look great! What's up with the blond hair? Also, where's your pierced nip?


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 10:39 PM

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i dyed it then its back to brown now,i got the nip done a few weeks after those pics,so far mainly negative response but no big deal im pretty new and i dont cut i only bulk for now

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garza

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posted January 25, 2001 10:39 PM

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You're not defined but you seem to have made some gains. Whats up with the hair? I'm about the same size as you I think, but i'm not a bodybuilder more of a powerlifter. You're doing good.


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 10:41 PM

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thanx garza,my roots were growing back at the time im glad i got the blonde gone i looked funny

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garza

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posted January 25, 2001 10:46 PM

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You are definitly big for your age In my opinion. All these guys talk about how at our age they looked so much bigger and were more stronger but where is thier proof? I plan to post some posing pics within the next few months. (although I don't have a lot of muscle definition because i'm not a bodybuilder)

You look like you weigh 200 in those pics. I weigh 180+ but no one would believe me. YOu say you weigh 165 in those pics? At what weight? I'm 5'11 and 180. I think deadlifting is making me taller lol.


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Steelheart

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posted January 25, 2001 10:48 PM

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Whoa! dude! Keep them in the url's only! I dont need a 16yr old half naked boy on my screen at work!


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 10:48 PM

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thanx bro,i dont sweat the negative to much im trying my hardest to get as big as i can,one day ill be big

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy check this board out its just gettin started


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timac

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posted January 25, 2001 11:04 PM

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WTF is up with you people talking sh^t. He's 16 years old. DAMN. you say "when I was your age I look better" F^cking so what, good for you, does that make you feel better running your mouth to a 16 year old trying to better himself. F^ck you. I only WISH I started when I was his age.
I see a lot of punk ass 16 year olds that need an ass beating, they need to be like the OAK.

Oak you look good, keep up the hard work. Building muscle takes a long time, your making a good decision starting at 16. You sure look better than I did at your age.
KEEP IT UP, don't let these fools get you down.


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Sniperwolf

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posted January 25, 2001 11:14 PM

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I respect your guts in posting your pics however in all honesty after seeing those photos they didn't prove anything. However you're still young and growing and I'm sure you will make excellent gains in the next few years if you keep it up. Good luck with the training.


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natedogg03

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posted January 25, 2001 11:21 PM

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Who's the dude standing in the hallway toward the left in that last pic????????????


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 25, 2001 11:22 PM

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thats my beast aunt

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted January 25, 2001 11:27 PM

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Oh My Dear Lord...I knew I should never ever visit this board in the evenings.....damn it....

Big Canadian...do you drink Labat Blue?


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garza

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posted January 26, 2001 01:11 AM

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HAHA YOUR BEAST AUNT....HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!


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RabbidWolverine

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posted January 26, 2001 01:14 AM

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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garza

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posted January 26, 2001 07:56 AM

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bump


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Hot Bod

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posted January 26, 2001 08:29 AM

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Keep up the good work. At your age your just at the beginning. You should start making some good gains soon if you keep working hard.

BTW, if you did cut your body fat just a little you would look bigger, because you'ld be more defined. Of course, you choose your cycle. This time of year until spring is always a good time to bulk.


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The Varnsen

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posted January 26, 2001 09:12 AM

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is this ajoke?


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Gilbyag

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posted January 26, 2001 09:26 AM

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i dont know what to say..... keep up the... hard.... work..... there, that'll do.


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The Varnsen

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posted January 26, 2001 09:35 AM

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Whats your routine oak perhaps we can help you!!!


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kat

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posted January 26, 2001 09:42 AM

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Oh for cryingout loud, give the kid a break.
He's still a kid!!!!

Ms Shags...only the Italians and rednecks drink Blue here...we're in Molson country

The boy drinks Bud though.


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The Varnsen

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posted January 26, 2001 09:53 AM

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Well the kid has a reasonable development for his age, but if he wanted to prove something... he should have waited a little bit longer...


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posted January 26, 2001 10:05 AM

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i heard clowns prefer miller lite


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posted January 26, 2001 10:06 AM

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On da rilla ma n*gga, keep liftin dem weights an in a few years show deez peeps what a true jacked up mofucca you are.

Fuck da haters here OAK, an don't dye yo hair no more.

MUCH LOVE !!!!

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freak daddy

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posted January 26, 2001 10:11 AM

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for every person that did'nt have one nice thing to say to the oak, i say go fuck yourself! post your fucking piuctures! this guy believes in himself, and what he is doing, and he is only 16! when he is 21, he'll probably blow us all away! good work oak, don't be discouraged by what some of these assholes said! you'rec well on your way on being a monster!

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da big thinker

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i agree w/ freak daddy;oak,keep your positive attitude and you will grow.at 16,i was exactly like you.in my opinion,if you want to get BIG,LIFT HEAVY!!!at your age,you can grow just by thinking about it,due to your hormonal changes.lift heavy and use your mature nature and within a year i guarantee you'll reach the 200 lb mark.e-mail me if you need help...

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good simon

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posted January 26, 2001 10:38 AM

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Uh... what moderater said...I think...

at 16 I was a 125lbs weakling i would of loved to be 40lbs bigger.
You're doing good kid @165. you can make some real drastic improvements in the next few years...

just concentrate on the big 3 and dont use cables.

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GearedChupaCabra

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posted January 26, 2001 12:51 PM

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I`m sorry man....but do you work out??


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Checkmatebloated

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Yo bro, everybody starts somewhere and it looks like you have made some improvement. Phuk all these assholes that are afraid to put there pics up. They just don't have it anyway. Most of them are keyboard cowboys anyway. Never seen the inside of a gym.

Keep working hard. However this is the chat room and you have to expect the smart asses, because I am one sometimes, but I will not ever make fun of somebody that is training hard like you are.


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posted January 26, 2001 01:10 PM

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right on checkmate!!!

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Big Buck

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posted January 26, 2001 01:26 PM

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What does your diet look like? How often do u workout?

BTW when I was 16 I was over 200lbs....


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MP5

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This is the same kid who talked shit to me in the past?! LMAO

Keep lifting, eat clean.

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john937

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posted January 26, 2001 03:51 PM

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Nothing like a post like this to prove who the creaps are.
Oak - good work, you've got promise,
keep it up!


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big_stud77356

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WOW, im not fucking with this guy.


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I think the problem is that Canadian Oak has been too cocky with everyone. If you're gonna be cocky the way you are, then you better have something to back it up. From those pics I don't see that. You said before your arms were 16", hmm...let me take a closer look...I see maybe 14" maybe 15" tops.
Then somewhere else I read that you said you have 26" legs, (I only have 25" and I'm 205lbs)but what I see is maybe 22"-23" and that's being generous.
I got no prob with you, you are only 16, no one at 16 can expect to look like Arnold, even he was small at that age. But you've opened your mouth quite a bit, and that's why people are dissing you now. Just MO...

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Johnny had spent the best years of his life there, playing with the other children, running, laughing, and experiencing the wonders of nature through innocent eyes. He even sneaked his first kiss there from Becky Thompson while standing underneath the slide, so there was no way in hell he was going to let CostCo put another store on "his" playground.


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The Canadian Oak

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First i would like to appoligize to mp5 for mouthing off i am sorry i know i lipped off in the past but there is nobody i have problems with on here im not like that anymore,my diet is ok for now my protein intake is high but fat and carbs are not the lowest either,my routine is workoing great for me ive taken along time to find whats starting to work,i dont remember saying i have 16 inch arms i do have 15 ,thanx for the input everyone even the negative people

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BIG RICK ROCK

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I'll give you a nice piece of advice Oak, join some school sports, trust me Sports will give you the look that you want, Yes weight lifting does help but I'm telling you at your age Sports like Football and Wresling (Greco Roman and such) will rip you up and make into a monster.

when i was 12 I started to do push ups and sit ups at home, when i turned 13 I decided to join the wresling team at school and I can tell you it was the best decision I could ever make, when I turned 15 I was ripped and had a very good physique and I can honestly say I owe it all to wresling for school. give it a try bro!!


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posted January 27, 2001 02:55 AM

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You look like nothing more than a slightly chubby 15 year old. It is not at all apparent that you have ever picked up a weight in your life from your pics.


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Fuck it, at least you got stones enough to post a pic bro.


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runner

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posted January 27, 2001 07:57 AM

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good advice, BRR.

keep at it, oak. use any negative comments as inspiration...


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BarbarianHorde

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posted January 27, 2001 09:19 AM

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not too shabby. if i posted my pics at 16 i would have got flamed unmercifully by everyone on the face of the planet. fat little choad that i was

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The Canadian Oak

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i wish i had pics of me in nov 99 then there would be no negative feedback,i did play football last year thats how i dropped the bodyfat but the teachers wont coach most sports and when wrestling was starting i just got my nipple ring and couldnt take it out,ill be working alot harder in the future,i hope we get football back

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d1734

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posted January 27, 2001 01:43 PM

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you seem cool oak but i gotta say i expected more than these pics. and if u ask where mine are, they are coming before the end of febuary at the very latest, probably earlier.


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Pokemon

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posted January 27, 2001 03:29 PM

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"i hope this proves that im not a pussy and that i really workout"

you are a pussy....only pussy talk that way...HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

bty, keep up the good work.


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Iron God

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posted January 27, 2001 04:59 PM

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Listen to BRR..Play High School football and wrestle or some kinda sport.

I did and got a partial to Lehigh University for wrestling. Shitty school, awesome wrestling team.


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bikinimom

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posted January 27, 2001 10:34 PM

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I am so sorry for not posting sooner there Brotha Oak. I've had a wholelotta stuff goin' on so I've not had too much time to click on any given thread let alone reply. I did try to b4 though, it just took so damned long to download that I will be honest, I gave up b4 I saw the pics. I am such a SHCMUCK!

Well little brotha - don't listen to any of the negative shit that any loser posted about you. OK, so you are not the incredible hulk, and?! What of it?! You are 16!.....keep training and listen to IG and BRRock, their advice has always been right on the money w/me personally, so I doubt that they would steer you wrong.

You have a lot of guts and I admire than more than you know. It is easy to sit back and critisize, but is it extremely DIFFICULT to put yourself out there to be the target of it!

You have demonstrated incredible growth from the time you first came to this board and I respect how far you've come, both physically and emotionally. My money is on you! I believe that you will grow into a fine young man and be able to pursue your dreams unafraid, laughing at the nay-sayers! The sweetest revenge will be when you actually attain your goals and all of those that laughed at you will be in some corner somewhere with their miserable sorry-ass lives saying, "Ah, he's not all that!" They are sorry now and they will be just as sorry then.....if not more so, because then they will be sorry AND DELUSIONAL!

My mother used to say, "You should be glad while people still gossip about you, because when they stop it will be because they feel sorry for you." Something might be lost in the translation here, but I think you understand what I am trying to say.

Me personally, I REVEL in the negative comments of others. It builds me up and makes me stronger, in the end.....I AM ALWAYS THE ONE WITH THE BIG SMILE AND THE WONDERFUL LIFE! hehe

Kudos to you brotha Oak!

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Warik

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posted January 27, 2001 10:43 PM

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Oak,

"You must show no mercy - nor have any belief whatsoever in how others judge you - for your greatness will silence them all"

--warrior wisdom

-Warik

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MeaNFReaK666

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posted January 28, 2001 12:36 AM

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DAMN BRO.. when i was ur age i was 5'9" 185 all fat... but its all good u need to switch ur masturbation to ur left arm cause ur right forearm is noticeably bigger then ur left.. lay off the whackin it.. or switch to left ang give ur forearm time to catch up with the right.. who took these pics anyways?? canada is weird.. anyways... 16.. no worries.. ur bound to get negative shit from people... but ur ONLY 16 in 10 years from now.. u will be huge or at least have one damn huge right forearm... LOL... either way u will pull the pussy... LOL

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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 28, 2001 07:46 AM

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thanx for the support and advice im glad people were honest this way i can work harder and improve

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"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

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Julez

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posted January 28, 2001 08:34 AM

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How old are you? Have you started / considered using gear?

Anyway, don't worry when I started I was barely pressing 100lbs! I just kept at it did a couple of cycles and......

The thing is I believe you have to love the sport, I am under no illusion I'll be winning any Olympia's but fuck it I still love it!

A few years ago I had my nipple pierced I found that on some exercises (Bench press) it hurt like fuck for the first few months.

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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 28, 2001 03:46 PM

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im 16 been working out since nov 99,im still slowly growing in height so i want to stop growing before i do a cycle which i think would be best

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy check this board out its just gettin started


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cackerot

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posted January 28, 2001 06:23 PM

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when you cut up you will look good.

btw, i like you sig...

"fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity" lmao


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Sniperwolf

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posted January 28, 2001 09:15 PM

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Whenever people post negative replies to a photo someone always tries to play the big man and tell everyone off. My comment was negative but I also tried to encourage the guy. The only reason my comment was negative was because the thread read "these photos will prove..". After looking at the photos my first reaction was that they don't prove anything-I was giving my honest opinion in answering the thread. If the Oak had just posted pictures without saying anything I wouldn't have said anything bad because he wasn't saying he looked in good shape or anything- I would have just offered encouragement. But if I was to say you're looking good keep up the good work to the pictures the oak posted I would be doing the oak no good at all. If everyone told him he's doing well that would serve no purpose at all. Through the negative criticism I sure the oak will benefit 10 times more. He will be able to use it as fuel to strive just that much more harder. I respect those people who give their honest opinions over those who just want to sound nice.Sometimes the truth can be hard to take but it will help in the long run.


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