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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted January 19, 2001 01:58 PM

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scarey topic I know...but check this thing out...its statistics gathered from interviewing some rapists and date rapists in jail to find out:


interesting facts:

The #1 thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are
most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other
hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after
a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.
The 2nd thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's
clothing is easy to remove quickly.

The #1 outfit they look for is overalls because many of them carry
scissors around to cut clothing and on overalls the straps can be
easily cut. They also look for women on their cell phone, searching
through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they
are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the
early morning, between 5 and 8:30a.m. The number one place women are
abducted from/attacked at is grocery store parking lots.
Number two is office parking lots/garages.
Number three is public restrooms.
The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and
quickly move her to a second location where they don't have to worry
about getting caught.

Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year
sentence, but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years. If you put up any
kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a
minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it
because it will be time-consuming. These men said they will not pick on
women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from
a distance, in
their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really
close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to
convince these guys you're not worth it.


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posted January 19, 2001 02:02 PM

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Mskes sense.....good info

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posted January 19, 2001 02:03 PM

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thanx for the info... I think.
seroiusly though, It never occured to me a rapist would put that much thought into it.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted January 19, 2001 02:06 PM

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Shags,

i thought rape was about power for guys, not sex.


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What you state is correct. But also, the woman has a role to play in it as well.

Rapist look to abduct woman when there are not a lot of people present, women who appear to be distracted, in a place of subdued lighting. It comes down to knowing your surroundings. If you are constantly looking around and observing your area, you are less likely to be a target.

Also, rapists count on women being passive during the event. And for the most part that is what the rapist gets. I say this because there are two schools of thought,

1. do not resist just take and try to remember as much detail as possible.

The problem with one is that the woman tends to feel as though she wanted it and feels guilty about the whole thing.

2. Resist period! Fight back, scream, do whatever like there is no tomorrow. Unless your attacker knows he is safe he will more than likely flee, to avoid the attention.

The biggest problem I see is that most women take it and don't fight back. This usually leads to multiple rapes from the attacker and then death.

Women should not have to be afraid to dress or wear their hair or whatever anyway they want. Just be aware of your surroundings, expect the unexpected and fight, fight, fight.


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 19, 2001 02:20 PM

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what does a female rapist look for in a male? I'm willing to change.

seriously though, the best thing I heard was that if you were in a situation where you were being raped and you've treid everything and you can't get out of it - briefly go with it and even act as if you are enjoying it - put you hands around his head and slide them so that you fingers are behind his ears and then slide your thumbs to his eyes and proceed to push your thumbs through his eye sockets.
1) this hurts like a bitch and he will stop
and
2) it will likely blind the asshole. so even if he is on pcp, he can't see you.

granted this is a last ditch thing - if kneeing him in the balls and running away works, no need to go this far.

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madbomber31

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posted January 19, 2001 02:30 PM

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only 2% had a weapon? did i read that right?

damn, thats a lot of rapes that could have been fought out of.

as for looking for someone on a cell, that seems just stupid, i mean... thats someone who is calling the cops in a heart beat...


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted January 19, 2001 02:32 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by MattTheSkywalker:
Shags,

i thought rape was about power for guys, not sex.


it is power...but they are wimps so they look for the easiest prey with the most vulenability...it enhnces their chances to succeed...hence gain power...

Example...how much power is a rapiest gonna gain if he tried to attack China...she'd give his genitals to carry home in a handbag...


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posted January 19, 2001 02:36 PM

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Then again, Chyna may just be as wimpy as other women. Who we are on tv is different than who we are in real life.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted January 19, 2001 02:55 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by chesty:
Then again, Chyna may just be as wimpy as other women. Who we are on tv is different than who we are in real life.

Whatever....if someone tries to violate Chyna in a way she doesn't want.....she's nto gonna simply hit him with her purse....


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posted January 19, 2001 03:11 PM

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% years is bullshit, the fuckers should be cooked like pigs


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posted January 19, 2001 03:33 PM

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SHAGS, MY MOTHER DOWN IN FL SENT ME THAT ON MONDAY, MUST BE GOING TO EVERYONE NOW!

I DELETED IT ! OOPS


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barney

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posted January 19, 2001 03:39 PM

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i think they look for victims they know they can easkily overpower as they are usually weak as fuck.


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posted January 19, 2001 03:41 PM

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rape should be life....


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posted January 19, 2001 03:54 PM

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Women, get yourself a hammerless, D-ring style revolver of the .38 caliber variety. Carry it in your purse. Whenever you walk into a parking lot, etc. keep your hand in your purse with your gun in in it with your finger to the side of the trigger.

If some rapist fuck-face should approach you, he'll have no idea that you have a handgun pointed at his sorry ass. The hammerless D-ring style revolver will not snag on anything and you can shoot the fucker through your purse.

Rapists and their like should be put to death pure and simple. Studies have shown that these individuals cannot respond to rehabilitation and are habitual by nature. Therefore, why put them in prison for life when you can take their life?

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posted January 19, 2001 04:05 PM

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The point is I have seen women that make chyna look small and have gotten their ass raped. It is mindset that will get you throught the ordeal, not your size. That only helps in the beginning as a deterrent.

You have to have the mindset of survival and to fight without fear. Without those you will not win no matter how big and strong. Remember, the guy who is attacking you to rape you has nothing left to lose but get caught so he already has the survival mindset and bein small doesn't mean he can't fight. In fact, the smaller the guy the bigger the attitude and the more they feel they have to approve.

Are you prepared to fight back as though you have already lost the fight?

Meaning, if you consider that you have already died, that you will fight as never before because in your mind you have nothing left to lose since in your mind you have already lost your life.


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posted January 19, 2001 04:10 PM

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funny... I always like short haired women.


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posted January 19, 2001 04:11 PM

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Wfabrizio...guns are illegal in Canada, and besides, a weapon can always be used against you. Id reather BE the weapon.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted January 19, 2001 04:23 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by chesty:
The point is I have seen women that make chyna look small

Dude...this I gotta see....post a pic...


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 19, 2001 04:36 PM

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Wfabrizio - what if the woman is scared b/c it is a somewhat dark parking garage. she has her hand on a guna nd she sees some guy so she thinks "oh my god I hope he isn't going to rape me" - she is that much more tense, she accidentally shoots the guy who was just some joe walking to an elevator and happened to get too near.
I agree that a well trained person with a gun won't do this - I agree that you would be a force to be reckoned with - but having them all carry guns and do what you say, you are just going to have that many more accidental killings - the us is already fucked up enough b/c of our gun laws, I am not for your idea. nothing against you.

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posted January 19, 2001 04:38 PM

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The hole!


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posted January 19, 2001 05:30 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by kat:
rape should be life....

Rape should be death.


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It all depends on the woman, the extent of her weapons knowledge, her cognitive ability to recognize a true threat, her abiltiies, and her willingness to take a life.

I agree that not every woman or man can use a weapon responsibly. My wife has for 5 years now and so has my mother for 20 years. If I were a woman I would rather kill some prick whose trying to hurt me and go to trial with a sympathetic jury than to be raped and possibly murdered.

La giustizia di strada!!!! (street justice)

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posted January 19, 2001 10:00 PM

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This is off topic but the us jury system is really fucked up. The members of the jury might happen to be just a bunch of stupid conservative citizens. What is the procedure to select the jury members??


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posted January 19, 2001 10:03 PM

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the defense and the prosecution I think have to agree on who they pick. generally the defense wants someone that will be in their favor, and likewise with the prosecution.
generally speaking they send out mail to a lot of people and try to take the dumbest of them.

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women are terrified of rape, and they tend to think that pretty much everyone who they don't know and are alone with is a potential rapist. there could be alot of accidents. Non lethal means of self defense would work better. (stun guns, mace, etc.) as there would be no real legal hassles.

incedentally, if you want to prevent a rape, then shit all over yourself when the rapist starts to rape you. supposedly that will make him lose interest.


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posted January 19, 2001 10:47 PM

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Mention you are H.I.V. positive.

I do not think many rapists carry protection.


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what is the percentage of women who were hurt buy their own weapons? High, I think.
If the attacker gets you to a second location you are done for. I like the eye socket thing. You can use the keys, the heels, the 4 inch blade in your pocket. Carry a whistle or a battery operated panic alarm. mace disables the attacker, but you could also be effected by the spray. stomp scratch, bite scream. Punch the adams apple and kick the fucker's balls. It works every time. Why don't rapists wear jock straps?

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posted January 20, 2001 05:48 AM

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Men who rape women should be
slowly castrated!!!!!

Then put to death!!!!


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For those of you who are saying that women, can't handle a gun, wouldn't know when to use it and would just raise the accidental killings are not well educated in firearms and are just repeating sayings that are meant to emotionalize the public into more gun control. The idea that your weapon can be used against is true, except that the attacker has to attack you and defeat you to get your weapon. It puts the woman on a more level playing field.

Non-lethal means hmmmm? I wonder? Have you ever used pepper spray on someone? Mace?, stun guns? They work great if the attacker is not high on drugs, his adrenaline level is low and he is not hell bent on completing his objective. While a sheriff's deputy I have seen people pepper sprayed with no effect, stun guns that did more to piss off the assailent than anything else.

Women and men have to realize the extent to which the defense tactic they have chosen is effective and be prepaired to escalate the force if need be.

If you carry a firearm, train with it, know its limitations. The same for non-lethal means. Besides it is harder for a dead man to sue than a living one.

Vickie Gates comes to mind. Several women as well that I have lifted with also.


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as long as the woman doesn't think that everyone she meets in a dark alley is a rapist i don't have a problem with women carrying guns.


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quote:
Originally posted by HappyScrappy:

granted this is a last ditch thing - if kneeing him in the balls and running away works, no need to go this far.

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Granted this is a last ditch thing??? There is no 'last ditch thing' when it comes to being attacked. If someone attacks a woman, that woman should be doing anything and everything she can to get away. period. Are you saying she should wait for a certain time during the rape before she should start fighting dirty? Up until that point, she should just do half-assed things to get away? I'm sorry, but if someone invades my space and I feel threatened in any way, it's dirty from the get-go. You better watch your eyes, your throat and your balls cause I'm taking them with me when I go.


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fitnsxy - the reason I said it was last ditch was b/c it was involving if he was actually having sex with the girl. if you can knee him and run away before he even gets his pants off, then it would obviously be a better course of action than to sit back and wait for that course.

ways that are all better shoving your hand into his adam's apple - it will choke him and if you do it hard enough you can kill someone. mace and pepper spray are great, but like someone else pointed out, they don't do anything if you can't feel pain. my dad ran on the ambulace the entire time I was in high school and he had plenty of stories of guys that got shot multiple times or that were cap stunned (pepper spray) and they didn't give a shit. the police were beating him on nerve points (ribs and joints) with their clubs and the guy just laughed. twice they got him in cuffs and twice he just tore his hands out of them - cutting them up, but the couldnt' feel. kept laughing that it was all going to hurt in the morning.
that would be an exception though, nto everyone strutting around at night is on pcp or what have you.

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No, you're right, if you can get away before he gets his pants off, then run. But it will more than likely have to involve some eye-gouging or something similar before you can run. Personally, I don't think I'd go for the balls right away, isn't that kind of expected? I would think he would be expecting me to go for that area and would totally be caught off guard by my palm-heel in his nose or fingers in his throat.

I personally don't like the idea of mace or pepper-spray...I can't control the wind and I don't want it in my face. A gun or knife are options, but if a man gets too close, I'm no fool, he'd be able to overpower me and take it. I carry a kubaton and I know how to use it, but I don't think it would be very effective if the woman weren't trained in how to use it. I believe learning how to fight is the best defense for women.

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posted January 21, 2001 04:13 AM

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fuck rapists chop their cocks off skin them alive chop their head off stick on a post and have everyone through rocks at his dumb fucking ass... i would probably do much better stuff than that but its a start...


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