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 WTF - Saddam Hussein
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Found on Yahoo news today. What is Saddam up to, sending money here when at the same time he's complaining sanctions are depriving his people of goods they need? Is this a public relations ploy to make us look bad? ...Like...Bad Americans...they don't take care of their poor! It says Iraq "agreed", like someone asked them to do this? Has anyone heard what this is really about? "IRAQ TO DONATE $94 MILLION TO POOR AMERICANS BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Iraqi government, at a meeting chaired by President Saddam Hussein, Monday agreed to donate 100 million euros ($94 million) to poor Americans, the official Iraqi News Agency (INA) said. It said U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) would be notified of the donation. INA said there were 30 million people living below the poverty line in the United States -- Iraq's sworn enemy. Iraq is under a United Nations (news - web sites) humanitarian program to relieve its population from the effects of economic sanctions imposed over the country's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Baghdad's proceeds from oil sales are used to buy food, medicine and other essential goods under U.N. monitoring. Last month, Saddam pledged one billion euros to Palestinians to aid their uprising against Israeli occupation.     | ||
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Moderator 
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how fun! | ||
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Guru
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An Evil empire with a soft heart how nice. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Hey what the hell, this country is just as injust and unfair to it's own people. If he delivers, I say we should find our differences and come to the table to settle this shit out. I find our government situation with Cuba just as unfair and unwarrarted. EITHER WE LEARN TO GET ALONG OR LETS JUST BLOW OURSELVES UP. Are you listening Wash D.C.? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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i dont believe it | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Laserdude, that's exactly what I think is his motive. He thinks he can pony up 94 million and buy his way out of sanctions. 94 million is paultry compared to what we spent kicking his ass out of Kuwait. On this morning's news, they said his son is updating the maps for Iraq, showing Kuwait to be a part of Iraq. They haven't given it up. | ||
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Moderator
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You guys are not addressing the REAL issue. There are over 30 million people (which is more than the population of Iraq) in the US that are living under the poverty line! So, it is a stab at the conditions of the United States. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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it is a ploy and i'm sure he'll follow through with it. that guy has got a ton of money because he's stolen it from all of his people. that's an f**ked up situation. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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its an attempt to get more of the U.N. on his side showing how he's a changed man after his cancer and shit, with the new american administration and britain wanting to stop the endless bombing, its a way to show he's "changed". either that or its the most expensive piss take i've heard. cheque will probably bounce knowing him.. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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How the fuck can Sadam be considered a president? Did they vote him in or something? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 193 |
no he wasn't elected. he overthrew some dictator in the late 70's. That's when the U.S. started giving Iraq money to build up their army. And all that came to an end when he invaded Kiwait. | ||
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Moderator
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2Thick, Whose poverty line? the US's? The UN's? Garbage. Poor in the US is not the same as poor in Iraq...except maybe at the very very bottom...and even still.....$10,000 a year for a fmily of three is just about indigent...but $10,000 a year in iraq is different. 94million doesn't even make a dent in anything. It's a stab at us but also a display of his stupidity...as if his mismangagement of the Persian Gulf war wasn't stupid enough. | ||
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Moderator
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Matt, I think it is amazingly funny! Poverty is relative to the country. I know you are intelligent enough to know that a poor man in the USA has the same (or similar) state of mind as a person who is below Iraq's poverty line (whatever that means over there...LOL). Poverty is the same even if a poor man in the US would be middle class in Iraq (but it does not change the utterly low social status of a person below the poverty line no matter where they are). The money is not important. It is the message that he is sending with the money. He says that the US has its problems and should know that they are not without faults. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Hmmm, 30 million poor, $94 million. I'm sure their lives will drastically improve when they collect their checks for $3. | ||
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Moderator
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2Thick, Yeah I think it is hilarious also. And yes poverty is relative to ther wealth of those around you. And it is funny. I would like to see the US be less world-involved also. In a recent UN survey about citizens' freedoms, nations were given scores based on how many activites they were free to do.....travel, assemble peacefully, etc. Out of 40, Sweden finsihed highest with 38. (The US had 34, not sure Canada). Iraq finished last with 0. Interesting. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Well I personally think Sadamm is a piece of shit and would not like to see his money come to this country. Though I would not like to be in the Military I would love to get a chance to kick his ass. Mainly because he causes his people to suffer more then the embargos, and blames the West and their allies for it. Screw the Sanctions cause they aren't working, they didn't work when they started and they won't work now. I personally think the CIA needs to do a better job with creating civil unrest in that country...Perhaps one day those people and the military their will get tired of his shit and get rid of him. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Bush Sr. Should have let us take him out while we were so close. I'll never understand why we were stopped short of what I considered a personal goal. We could have crushed his dictatorship! | ||
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Moderator
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Mojo, we didn't take Saddam out because he is a "known entity". Better to have a known there, then to see what would happen in an area as anti-US as the Middle East. Would it be better if Iranian zealots had overrun the country? I'm a veteran to - I hate to see the military on a leash like that. But there were reasons....including the fact that the man is an awful military leader. We could have removed Saddam without one ground troop. One strategy that was mentioned was bombing dams on the Tigris and Euphrates river and just floding Baghdad right off the map. Destroying teh regime was never the intent. Ironically, and tragically, Bush 2 doesn't have the same military might his father did. The Army is half the size it was in 1990. It may not even be feasible to place such a large presence in the area should Hussein act up. Thank Clinton for that. | ||
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Guru
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There is an even bigger picture here. For the Gulf War, we set clear cut goals that once met we would return home. To remove the leader during a war (conquer the country) meant we would have then been responsible for reinstating the country back into the world. We did not want nor need that headache. Sadaam's goal is the overthrow of the US. Fortunately he is about a rock when it comes to military intelligence, so he uses tried and true tactics of propaganda. We will never see the money, but someone will, more than likely someone who does not need the money at all. Poverty is a relative term. Of that so called thirty million people how many are content and happy and don't place their social status on their physical wealth? I made less than 9k a year going to college, couldn't even qualify for food stamps for my son because I owned a vehicle, yet I did not consider myself poor or in poverty. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Well its funny that this topic is up on here. I was just speaking to someone at work the other day (Ex UK RAF Squady) with regards to why the fuck we didnt just kill the fucker when we were in the area. Well what the world is told and what really happens is quiet different. Firstly, there was no Mandate issued on Killing Saddam Hussein during both wars. If its not in the mandate as an objective then it simply cant be done INTENTIANALY. At one stage of the Gulf War, Saddam was actually going to use Chemical and Biological weapons against the British and the Americans. Both countries got wind of this and the UK establishment warned Saddam that any use of Chemical Waepons on the US or British troops would not be tolerated and the threat of Nuclear Missiles was used against Saddam. Clearly, he was not going to take this chance as his regime was getting battered to shit, so he didnt even think about using the weapons. During Desert Storm, it is also known that Saddam' whereabouts was actually known by US and UK intelligence and he knew that he would be taken out. However, he communicated with the US and British establishments and did a deal whereby he was actually LET OUT of the area via a group of choppers. I know this sounds all unbelivable, but I kid you not. I have not known the source of this info EVER to lie. But if you really see deep down, there is SOOO much more that has gone on. But i do believe that its now backfired to the Brits and the US. We should have taken the Raghead out when we could have. Russia has now practically rearmed saddam with Tanks, Planes, and Missiles. CLearly, noone is still gonna fuck with Russia as the place is not stable. And yet the USA keep giving Russia hundreds of millions of pounds via the IMF which is largely US controlled. Go figure!!
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