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Guru 
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I thought of this while trying to go to sleep unsuccesfully last night after caffeine and a run..... Could you hook up a security system with motion detectors and taser guns mounted above all entry ways....trigger the motion sensor...intruder gets hit...is out cold......would that be legal?...its your property so I don't see why not.... ..Knowing my luck I'd forget to disarm the thing and be late to work every mornign 'cause I'd be out cold at my front ------------------ My father was a relentlessly selfimproving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts for being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we�d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Wilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum...it�s breathtaking. I suggest you try it.     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1359 |
hahaha, thats a cool idea. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1089 |
Poor Maggie... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 70 |
Sure you can. I would get a better power source for the tazer, it takes several shots to take an average man down (I teach home defense w/handguns and have demonstrated this many times on myself). | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3068 |
This agent 007 thing has now officially gone to far. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1447 |
It's illegal to boobytrap property, even your own personal property. The only thing you can do is make it lock the doors behind someone trapping them inside, that's legal. It can be done though, and it wouldn't cost much. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 185 |
Why? ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1616 |
Damn, just get a doberman | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
Rotten, Unless you're in CA or some other liberal-sh#thole, it's perfectly legal to use a home defense system, assuming it adheres to building codes. It would be very cheap, just need a spool of electrical wire, terminators, the motion detector and the tazer. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1522 |
I saw a show like on Dateline where this guys store kept getting broken into from a ceiling vent. So he bolted a grate over the vent and they kicked it down and robbed him again. The cops would not do shit...so the guy decided to take an electrical cord and ply one end in and expose the wires on the other end and touch them to the grate. Next morning he came in and had a fried burglar stuck to it. He was facing all sorts of charges and the guy that dies was an ex-con, rapist burlgar etc. he did the world a favor and he goes to jail for it. The burglars family had the nerve to say the store owner owes them and should have let their brother break in, why kill him?! ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
quote: Really?....what if you shoot an intuder yourself? is that illegal? I have a guard dog already and I have a few moves myself.....just strange wanderign of the mind ya know | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1522 |
Get a gun shag, anyone comes to my house they picked the wrong one! It is like an arsenal. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
In most states it is only legal to shoot the intruder if he is attempting you bodily harm. In other words if he breaks in and is unarmed you better not kill him. If he breaks in with a knife you can't kill him if he's still in the other room. He's better be charging at you with the knife in his hand, and then you can shoot. Otherwise you'll be standing in front of a judge. However, juries are usually pretty lienient on these cases. In you're scenario what are you going to do with the dead body of the monthly electric meter reader? | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2609 |
Rotten is right, you cannot booby trap your property in any many that may cause harm to another person. It goes to intent. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 979 |
I saw the same Dateline as MP5. Very interesting. To justifiably shoot someone, you'll have to convince a judge or jury that you or another person (not property) was in iminent physical jeopardy. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
Ok heres my thought...if you use a taser for all illegal entries you are not killing the person....so what if you have warnings like the security systems that are posted stating..."Any Unauthorized Visitors will be Electrically Stimulated Upon Arrival....Enter at you Own Risk"...would that be leagal if you had a disclaimer?  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 185 |
I prefer the paint can to the head trick ala Home Alone 2 -- no wiring needed. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2609 |
Doesn't matter shags you could get sued and lose big time. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
Interesting....so even with a disclaimer you can get sued if someone enters your property and gets harmed......what if some one enters my property and my dog attacks him?...what about guard dogs...do they have to take out some kind of additional insurance or what? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
The monthly electric meter reader will be a Spanish speaking immagrant that can't read English and have a heart pacemaker. He will still be dead. And you will still be in jail. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
My Meter reader is outside my house...I don't know about you guys....but these would be mounted inside...for those who come into my house | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Rotten is correct, it is against the law to "booby trap" property. In addition, you cannot shoot an intruder simply for trying to steel your property. The short answer is that you are only able to shoot an intruder if he/she is attacking you. Comes down to using lesser or equal force necessary to protect yourself -- the law feels that human life is more valuable than property. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2268 |
Yeah its f'ed up. You really can't protect your property with force and get away with it. You can shoot someone in your home and claim you were scared for your safety and its no biggie. I don't remember were it was --- I also know of a case were a guy filmed his neighbor stealing his shit in his house and the cops had to do something about that. It used to be that you could hang a mna for stealing cattle. Know they can take all your shit. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
What about the doggie question...how is if leagal to have guard dogs them?...they usually have a disclaimer...beware of dog...I would think a disclaimer would make it ok..... I mean take pharmaceuticals...they list possible side effects...if someone gets this dside effect what is the liability of the pharmaceutical? It must be at least lessen...otherwise whats the point of putting warnings on at all? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1447 |
Shaggy, if someone comes in and your dog attacks him you won't have any criminal charges against you, but they can sue you in a civil trial. I have a rotty and I can't get any insurance on him. Even my homeowners won't pay if he bites. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2609 |
Dog attacks vary. If the dog has been turned into a weapon it can be shown that intent to harm was installed. If not then you would be okay. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 185 |
If somebody's in my house, that's all I need. Just cap the fucker and put a kitchen knife from your kitchen in his cold, dead fingers. Say he attacked you, game over. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
Alas...so my masterful scheme has flaws.....but what is the point of disclaimers then? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 185 |
Just do it and make sure you take all the shit down before the police show up. He won't know what hit him anyway, just say that you were standing there in the dark and did it. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2268 |
Shooting an intruder and rigging a trap are very different things. Nah your dog is cool in the house but I watch mine close when outside and on lead. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
Come on I know there are alot of cops...or past cops on here...criminal justice majors...or lawyers?...chesty can I get a shoot out brotha?.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
In this state, if your dog bites you have two problems. 1. You're liable for damages in a civil suit. 2. You have to immediatly show written proof your dog has had his rabies shots. If you can't show proof, then the sherrif impounds the dog and a rabies test is performed on the dogs brain tissue. The only way they can get the brain tissue is to kill the dog. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2609 |
The machine has just given you your answer. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2492 |
Actually its really not that important...just curious...I don't even own a taser gun....never even used one... my old roomate used to have a stun gun that he made me take with me when I ran late a night...in college I had a fetish for running at ungodly hours after I couldn't handle studing anymore.... | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2140 |
THOSE TYPES OF GUNS ARE ILLEGAL TO CARRY HERE IN PA, NO FAIR!  YOU CAN'T CARRY A STUN GUN TO PROTECT YOURSELF BUT YOU CAN CARRY A BULLET KILLING HAND GUN ANYWHERE. |
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posted January 11, 2001 11:06 AM
HEY, be patient and watch this fool take a hit!
...I think it would be a cool idea...me or my dog won't have a chance to get hurt...the intruder is paralyzed for enough time to call the cops and move his/her carcass outside my humble abode...... 
