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Thick dog

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posted January 11, 2001 10:22 AM

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I've read about your fondness of the Test Suspension/Winny stack, I was thinking of perhaps taking it for a test drive, along with some tren. What kind of strength gains did you get and how did you lay it out, 100mg of each EOD for 8-10 weeks? I was thinking either that or Propionate/EQ, but the supsension/winny sounds a little better.


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 10:30 AM

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Man I !!!LOVE!!! Susp and Winny. The one thing about this is that the so-called over bloat that most complain about is completely unavoidable. Susp/Winny is probably the greatest and truest reflection of your diet. Myself and others have used it to prep for contests before up until the last 5 days. And I have used it for bulking too. Depending on your carbs, water intake you can do either. Cut those carbs down, drink a lot of water and you will see tremendous hardening (winny) and full muscle bellies (suspension).

My cycle was always one CC of each per day. 50mg winny, 100mg of Susp. Winny in AM, Susp 1/2 hour before workout. I know other guys that were weighing about 230-250 and they were using 2cc each daily and making tremendous gain.

I would use it as about 10 weeks up until 5 days before the show if I was cutting and then the last five days it was winny and 40mg halotestin daily.

Let me know how you are going to use.


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 10:35 AM

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oh yeah, my strength gains were nothing short of amazing. every workout you are constantly adding 5 pounds here, two extra reps there.

Of course, you may also want to add a calcium and magnisium supplement in your diet as well to help those bones and joints support the extra stress.


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Thick dog

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posted January 11, 2001 10:42 AM

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Here's what I was thinking:
100mg Suspension, 100mg winny, 75mg of tren(the new Tokkyo version) EOD for 10 weeks. Of course I'll have some Nolva on hand just in case gyno rears it's ugly head, and clomid
Does the suspension hurt that bad? I had no problems with propionate...


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 10:48 AM

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Susp will burn going in, at least the brand Steris I always used did.

But the way to remedy that is when you pull the needle out of the bottle, exchange needles and/or wipe the outside of the needle off with a sterile wipe and make sure you get all the residue of the suspension off. Then you will have no problem. I always used a 25g to shoot mine with.

Email me about the Ttokkyo. I would like to get some stuff for my dog.


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flexed1

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posted January 11, 2001 11:01 AM

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that jurox stuff had me in pain for two weeks. hurt like hell. maybe steris is cleaner or ??


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Thick dog

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posted January 11, 2001 11:01 AM

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Thanks bro, check your mail in a minute.


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 11:26 AM

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ok, I will look for it. if I have any ?'s I will email you.


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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 11, 2001 11:59 AM

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[Some guy that I barely know] just shot some Steris Test Cyp and Ttokkyo Deca Wed night -- [he said] no pain at all, big change from primo!

[that guy] has to say, [that guy] loves being able to only load .625 of a cc to get 187 mg of Deca.

Shot is only 1.6 cc twice a week for 400 mg test and 375 mg deca -- much better than pounding down cc after cc of primo.

[that guy] should probably post pics of both, [he's] not sure too many people know what Ttokkyo products look like, [that guy] even has the boxes and inserts for both too.

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Thick dog

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posted January 11, 2001 12:02 PM

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How do you like the Tokkyo products? I can't wait for the tren to come out. You have to love the 200mg/cc EQ too.


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 12:03 PM

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Machine, you got mail.


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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 11, 2001 12:07 PM

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TD -- This is [that guy's] first time w/ them, but [he's] very excited about them. [he's] done a lot of talking to people about them. [he] thinks [he's] going to like them A LOT. The quality is good and the dosing is excellent. [he's] always for getting more out of less of a shot and price. Plus,[he] loves the dog head on the label. lol!

Jae -- I'll check

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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 11, 2001 12:13 PM

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Jae, you've got mail.

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Thick dog

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posted January 11, 2001 12:30 PM

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LOL, tell "him" thanks for the info...


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Jae

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posted January 11, 2001 12:32 PM

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I will, you too TD.


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