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 ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT CARS AND CAR AUDIO
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Hey everyone, I just got a raise today at my current job so I'm ready to go and get a loan to get the car I've been wanting. I'm thinking about a Honda Prelude, Civic Si or Acura Integra GSR. I'm a little worried about the insurance but I'm hoping I will find a good deal...but anyhow, just want your opinions. I'm hoping to soupe up my car but nothing outrageous. I like the simple but not overkill look. Recommendations?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1037 |
dont get an Integra...especially up here...absolutely crap in the winter. I'd go Prelude personally....but I have ot say, my civic is like a friggin snowplow..as long as the snow isnt above the wheels, it GOES.  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
Well Kat, it sucks to live in Canada sometimes...all this snow..especially since I'm going to drop my car to the floor. No matter what car I get, I'll be plowing snow with it. That is..unless I keep my Hyundai for the winters..hmmm...might be a good idea. | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 4264 |
For the speakers go with seperates and try Crystal Audio (it might be with a K instead of the C) they make very high quality mids and highs for your car. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
Slopain: I'm not too sure what separate speakers are. Is that a different term that is used where you live?..or maybe you guys have better stuff. All we have here are component speakers and non components | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 841 |
Cutemonkey, did you know that Honda is actually considering either 1.) discontinuing the Prelude, or 2.) redesigning it into something totally different. Sales of the Prelude have fallen dramatically in the last several years and they are trying to figure out what to do about it. I couldn't believe it when I read it. The Prelude has been around...well...forever! As far as speakers are concerned, you may laugh, but Pioneer makes some really good mid and high range speakers. I use to run Pioneer mids with a 500w Rockford Fosgate amp, and it was ear piercing to say the least. -TG | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
No way man...r u serious? Honda would never do something like that. I use to have a SRV..and it was kicking butt....even when it was stock. I don't know...maybe its a canadian thing but almost everywhere you go, you see a prelude...
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
separates are components. The best car audio speakers made are DynAudio $800/pr, then CD-Technologies $500/pr. If you go with these make sure you have a clean and powerful amp, Xtant comes to mind. Get a descent head unit, processor and sub you should be go to go. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
Pioneer speakers are definately the best bang for the buck. On another note, anyone have any tip to avoid getting your rims corroded by salt when it snows? Last year I had 18" Advanti Racing Concepts and two of them got all rusted and nasty and shit from the salt. I just got new 18" Fittipaldi Diablo's and I don't want to wait until spring to put them on! Anyone know about a spray coating or what I could do? Do you think my old rims corroded just because ADRs are cheap? I see Bimmers and Porsches and shit with stock 17" rims that don't get corroded. -BSmooth | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
if they are chrome the salt will tear them up, if they are painted or aluminum keep them clean they will be okay. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 157 |
Get the Civic SI unless you live in Montreal (due to it being high up there on the list of most stolen cars)... Had a MTX Blue 420W in my TBird with an active cross 2x15" pioneer and sony 150w 6x9's sound was crystal clear... You could go nacamichi, spend 3g's and get it a bit better but alot of cash for a bit better. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 564 |
Slo has that right , i have 2000+ ford probe , Crystals up front , Orions in the rear , Crystal Center Channel , 4 15 orion NTS subs 2 12 orion NTS subs . Audiocontrol Epicenter , Spacial enhancer , Mbr70 a ton of caps 2 batteries . ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 350 |
Shit i thought it said who knows about carbs and cardio. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1038 |
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Put some money in the bank ...have some cash for a great vacation next year or whatever. Don't waste it on a car! If you don't have any wheels now, then at least buy a reasonably priced used car! Otherwise, 2 weeks after you get your car, it'll be old to you and you'll be paying on it for years! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6020 |
I have to agree that buying a New Car is not a wise investment since it will depreciate very quickly. Buying a car that is 1-2 years old is a better idea. I would get the Civic SI for great gas mileage and a great re-sale value. It is very dependable and will be easier on your insurance since it is a two-door version of a 4-door car. A system will sound good in it but since it is a Honda, you will have a lot of rattles (unless you invest in some Dyna-mat). The Integra GSR is the best choice for a sporty car that is cheap and dependable. It is good on gas (relatively speaking) and will have a good re-sale value. This car sounds good with a system but you will still need to buy Dyna-mat to get rid of the rattles. The Civic will be much easier & cheaper to find after market accessories for because it is very popular. If you want a more rounded and punchy sound then you are way off with the 15". In car stereo, the 15" is not too great because of its lack of punch and very low octave range. It will not be as crisp as 10" or 12". If you want loud and punchy bass then you should get one or two 12" subwoofers or 4 10" subs. It will be much better than one or two 15" subs. BTW- you cannot use 15" and 10" subs together because they do not sound very good in one system. They seem to cancel each other out. I think components are a waste of money because they do not offer you that much of a difference from regular (and cheaper) two-way full-range speakers. Get yourself a pair or two of Cervin Wega 6.5" or Infiniti Kappa 6.5" speakers and enjoy. They are amazing speakers with component sound without the price or hassle of installing the components. Your deck is fine for now. If you really want good sound in the cab (not bass), then buy a Kenwood 35W x 4 Car Amp or something similar to feed your full-range speakers. Post if you have any questions. I love car stereo...etc. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
2Thick, thanks for the tips. I don't know if I agree with you on the sub discussion. I was always under the impression that you can maximize the sound of your sub with proper installation, and customized casing to the specifications of the sub.. which is exactly what I did. My friends and I spent a few weeks this past summer and built a custome box out of this amazing wood (don't remember of hand) and we had it tested in a studio0like atmosphere that replicates sounds from a trunk environment. Though mine is not installed yet, my friend has had his installed in his Prelude for a long time now and it sounds amazing. I agree that Hondas cause too much vibration and sounds like the cars about to break in pieces during certain parts of a very bassy song. And to MayYoung, I wasn't planning on getting a brand new car...I was out looking today and I think I might be putting a down payment and getting a partial loan on my dream car that I thought I couldn't afford.. the Integra Type R... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
2Thick, You must have bad ears if you think a pair of coax speakers will sound better then a set of components. Yes they are easier to install for a novice, but you will get the same crappy imaging/soundstage that you get from factory speakers with the coax speakers only louder, which in turn will sound even more like crap. Which ever car you get put some descent components up front preferably in the kick panels. Both the Integra and Civic have great space for kick panels. Feed them enough clean power put your sub in the back and enjoy. But a 15" sub will give you the boomy sound from blocks away as to a It just depends on what you want SQ or SPL. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6020 |
quote: I happy to know that there are people who buys into the crap the car audio industry tells you. You apprently have never listened to an Infiniti Kappa because it is more advanced than most components. So you really think they are like factory speakers...only louder? Well, that does not make any sense since factory speaker only take about 10 watts RMS max of power, but Kappas need about 50 watts RMS to sound great so the factory would sound louder at 10 watts than the Kappa. Thanks for playing...come back and see us again. If you want, go out and buy those components and waste your money. I guess somebody has to keep the economy going...LOL | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Sorry, there is no way that a coax speaker will ever sound better than a set of components, even in the crappiest install. I guess you have never been to any type of Car Stereo shows, and if you can show me in one instance where a car won a show with coax speakers in the front of the car, then I will believe you, err.. wait not even then because my ears tell me different. It doesn't really matter cause you will be stuck in your ways and me in mine...COAX SUCKS What kinda of system do you have in your car? Please don't say some coax (cough cough) and a sorry ass kenwood 4x35 amp.....LMAO ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 564 |
Schlong is absolutely right , Coax speakers are a joke . The staging and sound image is always wrong . (how good can a speaker sound with the highs blowing into your leg?). | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 120 |
I'll have to agree with 2Thick, Coax are the bteter choice... Sure the separates DO sound better when PROPERLY staged, but I seriously doubt this guy is gonna wanna spend the money to get separates (a good pair too mind you, not something from circuit city) then have custom kick panels made (sorry qforms don't cut it) and a professional installer mount them for optimal sound performance. Then if he's gonna go through all that trouble, might as well get a nice head unit, amp everything up, get a crossover and Eq...etc I'd have to say about 90% of the time people would be bteter off with coaxials. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6020 |
gotbig, Thank you for clarifying it for me. That was written very eloquently and I couldn't have done it better. Schlong, I have a less aggressive system in my vehicle (than a few years ago) because I hate having to wear earplugs when I drive. It is composed of: CD Deck: Rockford Phosgate | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
the reason you need them earplugs is because of the COAX SPEAKERS LOL See even you have components up front. Yet you are telling someone else an opinion for COAX up front. I don't use rear speakers because it brings the soundstage to shitty location. All I have is a set of components and a single 10" and it sounds better than most home stereos. No ear plugs required, when you have good stereo equipment. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6020 |
He wanted something decent without paying too much. I suggested an option and so did you. He will decide what he wants. Before, I had 4 Punch DVC 12" plus 2 components in the front and one in the back. Trust me that you will need ear plugs for that (but only if you like your hearing  ). | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1647 |
I am like May, don't spend your money hyping up your car. I have a Mercedes and I would never add anything to it. It is just transportation. I would rather spend my money on a vacation or a Lee Bomhoff painting than spending $$$ on stereo and rims. forget that shit, it is only temporary on the car until you either sell it or wreck it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 120 |
My System, very simple, very good sounding: MB Quart 6.5" Coaxials in the doors This is in a honda civic. The next upgrade is for 5.25" rear MB Quart Coaxials. And possibly swapping the 1 12" for 2 10"s in a sealed box. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
I know what you mean about hearing again, I had a Civic back in 95' and blew out the back window at an SPL contest. Hit 148.9, but now it seems to be the SQ that I like this is why I harp so much on components, you just can't get the same SQ from COAX. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6020 |
Schlong, I will agree that SQ is better with components. I also know that since you compete, you will have a preference for higher end (price and SQ) products. I hope you were wearing hearing protection during those SPL contests. I would have liked to see that window shatter, though...LOL. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
Well, May and Jae, everyone has their own tastes and preferences. For me, I have never flown on a plane before nor do I think I'll ever. That means unless I'm willing to drive a sheet load distance, I won't be vacationing much. Besides, some of use are really simple people who enjoy music and cars. Its no less different than the way people spend their money on drugs, porn or vacations. For someone who things a car is just a ride, you sure spent a sheet load of money for a mercedes? Hmmm.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1037 |
dude, how the fuck did you get to Canada if it wasnt by plane? And I thought you told me you were Vietnamese..and later you told the Captain you were Chinese...there is a difference isnt there? And BTW....Integras DO NOT turn heads around here...dime a dozen. Get an NSX and you might have a chance. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
They make you wear ear protection or you cannot compete in the SPL. I don't do SPL's anymore only SQ, and not really into competing right now too busy, but when the kids get older I get back into it. ------------------ |
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