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Wombat

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posted January 10, 2001 02:27 PM

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I never recom. anyone taking the stuff. People make choices in their lives. You can not put an age on when someones hormones stop growing --thats bullshit. If you want to guess and say that "well at 23 their bone structure is in place so then its ok.--Thats a joke--some stop earlier --some later-- your taking the ave.--the ave. person doesnt use AS--I get a kick out of people that say their natural but look for any legal supplement that they think will help them. We know more about steriods then we do about any of these so-called natural supp. people are ingesting. Assume they made steriods legal in the us, without a prescription--Is it then ok to use them. These natural bodybuilders are ingesting things that you cant get from just a food source--Because our government decides to tell us that it is ok the take supp. then anyone natural so-to speak thinks in their own head that its o.k.---Some people take things and side-effects happen---others take things and dont get the sides---if you decide to drive a car, you are taking a chance in something happing that you may not want--You get in a bad accident --People are not going to tell you that you shouldnt have been driving because of the risk---That is stupid--I think the ignorance is not on my view but yours. You are exactly what our government made you to be.


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Frackal

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posted January 10, 2001 02:49 PM

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Alright, then one's going to go on forever it seems.

After my 1st cycle we will see who was right and who was wrong, but don't you think you guys are going a little overboard here?

MP5, I honestly appreciate your opinion because it IS important to look at both sides of the issue of course. I'm not doing a very heavy cycle. A small amount of test/deca. This really is a pointless arguement that will be concluded in 5 months, when I finish.


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Wombat

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted January 10, 2001 03:19 PM

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I had a friend who In high school played football--He was a friend of the families and was about 5 years older at the time. This guy was 6'9 320 pounds --not alot of muscle (kind of fat) but big anyway. He was a lineman and got a full boat to Iowa St. He played 5- years their because he was red-shirted and never touched the shit ---was totally against it for his own reasons--He got drafted by the Cinn.--In the football combine he wasnt even close to most in strengh --speed etc but because of his size and he could still move people around he was drafted. He was givin X amount of dollars for signing and told that he had to bring up his strengh--speed ---you get the picture--Some the coaches on the team were pressuring him into taking. Well he didnt take anything and got beat out by someone who was stronger faster--whatever--Over the next year he had opp. of trying out for diff. teams but never did for he felt in his mind that he wouldnt take it just to get on team. I respect him for that--He is now a state trooper in Iowa --Married --kids --the whole nine yard--I had seen him a few years back and When he saw me -he shook his head --he knew I was taking them--He is happy in his life but had told me that he wishes that he would have done it early on and if he could do it again he would in a second--He works with a few guys that are on the shit and cant believe how many just reg. dudes do it. He really doesnt work out much so he has no reason to but understands why some people would, even if they are not into sports ETC. The point of my story is he rememberd guys that used it at a young age 19 --whatever and still went out got drunk-- played football--he knows of 2 that went pro.and have done very well for themselves. Who take their job probably alot more serious then you--take juice --always did ---get shitfaced once in awhile.


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Wombat

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted January 10, 2001 03:59 PM

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Im not tying to piss anyone off and if I do then shame on you for letting me. Just educate yourself and do whats right for you. My problem is not with anyone in general but just people who because of the way that they run their lifes are against the way someone else runs theirs . I'll let go!

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted January 10, 2001 04:42 PM

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Wombat, I agree with alot of what you are saying...except for the starting early stuff. The guys I know who have juiced before getting to a high level of development naturally have had alot of trouble keeping their gains when they go off AS. Maybe its because they don't have great genetics (since they weren't big when clean) or it is just to hard to train clean. I just have seen this so many times. A young guy blows up and then you see him around a year later and he is a twig again.

I'm not being moralistic and all here, I use AS, but only after I added 55lbs of muscle without them. Now I feel I can really take advantage of what they have to offer.


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Wombat

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posted January 10, 2001 07:02 PM

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I do agree that most of the people that started young on the bean blow up and lose it but I think alot of the guys that do just dont train anymore...Hell I dont think its the safest thing to do at a young age and I do think you are better off not taken them and build a good base but the maj. of people that take them at a young age are not even working out later on in life. Its not a magic pill---hell alot of kids that I used to know would try some test or something and eat like shit and hardly gain anything--Its just something they think they had to try. Its the same as all these fat fucks walking around, doing no exercises at all and doctors putting them on diet pills, they may loose a little but you and I both know without diet/exercise they wont keep it off. Even people that know they have to exercise and diet still think that their is a magic pill out their. I say let them do what they are going to do. Im all for educating people before they want to try something. People want results fast..


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