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Valdez

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posted January 06, 2001 02:45 AM

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I hate to stereotype anything but from what I have seen from gay men on this board...

Why are many gay guys such sluts, "circuit parties" "daisy chains" etc. etc. I have read many posts bragging about how so and so has had 4 somes+ and are proud about fucking people they don't know. Seriously do you guys respect your bodies, do you respect who ever your with at the time.

the only thing I can fathom is as JohnnyO once said: "we separate love from sex" that's fine and dandy but what is the interest in even attending some of these "events"

enlighten me.

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djane

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posted January 06, 2001 02:47 AM

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to be fair..don't a lot of guys go to bars just to get laid? and don't a lot of guys have meaningless sex? it's really the same thing if you put it into perspective.


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Warik

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posted January 06, 2001 02:50 AM

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If it's any consolation, I have little respect for those guys who go to bars just to get laid and get themselves meaningless sex, too. I truly believe that I was born in the wrong era.

-Warik

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Austin316

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posted January 06, 2001 02:51 AM

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I've always believed sex to be meaningless and pointless without love. Now alls I need is the right girl to come along


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luv2workout

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posted January 06, 2001 02:51 AM

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I wouldnt limit it to "gay guys" acting like such sluts..Ive read just as many posts from straight guys talking about the same things...All men like to fuck and If your gay it just makes it easier..


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djane

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posted January 06, 2001 02:52 AM

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ah, yes...the age of chivalry, honor, and courting has died.


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Warik

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posted January 06, 2001 03:05 AM

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Nah, we still have courting today.

"hey girl you be lookin' fine!!! lemme buy yous a drink!"

Congratulations, you've just been laid.

I think maybe I belong in the 50s. Remember "Back to the Future?" Those girls seemed pretty lady-like. Whatever happened to those kinds of girls?

-Warik


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Valdez

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posted January 06, 2001 03:27 AM

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Uh, no guys it is WAY different than picking someone up at a bar.

I'm talking about orgies etc. which seem to be pretty much common practive.

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Texas Guns

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posted January 06, 2001 04:06 AM

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Now from the gay men that I do know who are on this board, what you have described Valdez is not at all in their character.

But what I see are people searching for love and searching for that one person to spend their lives with. There are perverts among us, yes, both genders and persuasions included. I know of some straight men on this board who also participate in orgies with their wives present. Not what I would call good character.

Whatever your sexual preference, there are still such things as standards and self respect and believe it or not, meaningful relationships.


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Mr H

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posted January 06, 2001 05:08 AM

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Maybe it has to do with the fact that legally they cannot marry in any state besides Vermont- and honestly who the hell wants to live there?

If I knew I'd never be able to get married to a girl I liked I'd probably be more open to sleeping around.


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GangGreen

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posted January 06, 2001 05:23 AM

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ive went to a gay bar with a buddy... and i think that MOST guys want to get laid each time they go out... now, if you have 2 guys together, and BOTH are pretty typical, then obviously their is going to be some poop smearing on dicks... multiply this scenario out... say you have 200 guys all interested in guys... i'd say a HIGH percantage are going home with one another, why not just take that other couple too?

i dont agree with it... i dont do stuff like that (with women or men), sex means something to me... every time... i like knowing the person i am with is my world, especially when she is... sometimes we just dont say it enough, sometimes we love someone so much that we just take it for granted that they know... sometimes we hurt that person and feel so bad for it... sometimes it makes us very sick to know we caused someone elses hurt... sometimes "i'm sorry" isnt enough but their is nothing more i can say....

sorry folks, i rambled...


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scott825

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posted January 06, 2001 08:30 AM

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Im not gay but I can tell you that All us guys including myself are always horny when they go out,no matter what the sexual preferance is.

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JohnnyO

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posted January 06, 2001 11:32 AM

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pondering gay sex practices at 3am? hmm..?

ok, i'm in a relationship.. we've been together a long time, but we like to cruise the bars and pick up a 3rd, and there was once we've picked up another couple. it's probably easier since i find guys are more open about what they want out of a relationship, even if it's just meaningless sex. and children are never ever an issue no matter what you do, so it's not like being a slut is going to have any long term effects for anyone involved (unless you don't practice safer sex).

i would like to be in an orgy of sorts, but i've never been in one.


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Future One

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posted January 06, 2001 11:56 AM

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HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!

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May1010

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posted January 06, 2001 12:54 PM

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Valdez -

You know a lot more than I do. I still haven't the foggiest, or is it the faggiest, idea what a daisy chain is.

Also, circuit parties have nothing to do with sex. Have you ever been to one? If not, you should. They're our biggest recruiting tool.

As for orgies and the like, yeah, I've been to them. Should I feel bad about that? No. I'm single. I don't have kids or anyone else to answer to. Did I disprespect my body? You betcha! Was it fun? You betcha!

Will I do it again? You betcha!


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flexed1

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posted January 06, 2001 01:19 PM

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People that live by this rule of thumb are the same one's who are insecure and need the games to make themselves feel better. When your young the only thing that really matters is sex sex and more sex. No conditions, no conversation, just wam bam thank you ( insert preference here) as you grow older things change very quickly and NEW younger folks come out and you find yourself looking for that special someone you'll "never find". Fact is gay men do have real life's with 1 partner but this does not get spoken about. Gaymen are able to have 1 on 1 relationships but agian its not spoken of. These same one's don't go to bars, have many friends, and seek relationships based on trust, love, and mutual respect. now one can truly only give that when they love themselves. To brag about who ya had last night, how many,, what ya did, gay or straight is to say this is all I am good at and I have don't feel good about myself deep inside so lets "brag" about something that does make me feel good even for a minute. This is not a gay or staright thing it's a young and insecure thing and maybe in some cases an old an insecure thing. It's one choice to live this type of lifestyle with many partners again gay oo straight but not everyone lives it so that tells ya something. just my two cents. Thanks


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May1010

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posted January 06, 2001 01:28 PM

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Flexed -


Very well said.


So, how you doin'?


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bignate73

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posted January 06, 2001 04:04 PM

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flexed1 said it best.

in the military, (unrelated but still relevant) we had a phrase, "its always the 10% that will f#$^ it up for all of us".

this phrase holds true to a degree, not that anyone in this conversation is f$#%ing it up for anyone but rather gaining more attention. this attention causes a generalization that can lead to stereotyping. straight men that have random irresponsible and anonymous sex give the reputation of "dogs" to all men by scorn women. gay men that speak of gratuitous sexual encounters frequently, can give others impressions of the whole community. women who sleep around...the same. so on and so forth.

people should be looked at as individuals regardless of their persuasion because in actuality, "the 10%" are in the spotlight, and everyone else may be completely normal relationshipwise.

oh shit, i wrote a book....sorry.

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BSmooth

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posted January 06, 2001 04:49 PM

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Picking up chicks in bars just to get laid isn't meaningless. The meaning is to hold you over until you find your next girlfriend. It's hard as hell to go without getting ass, and your body needs it. Of course its nicer to have a hot ass girl that you can fuck whenever you want. But you can't always have that.


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thundercloud

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posted January 06, 2001 08:14 PM

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I resemble some of these remarks


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GLP

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posted January 06, 2001 08:22 PM

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homosexuality makes me sick to my stomach just cant understand how men can dig men,to me it is the same is having sex with a dog.


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GLP

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posted January 06, 2001 08:33 PM

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Homosexuality makes me sick,cant understand it. to me its like wanting to have sex with a dog. Not that all gays are bad,some of the nicest people Ive met are gay. But I still cant stand that flaming tell the world shit. I respect the ones who are quite about it even though its easy to tell and say thats there bussiness. Because if thats your thing more power to ya just dont annoy the fuck out of me with it. Me and a buddy use to go over to this one gay guys house to get high when we were board. That shit was funny he had a live in boy friend and they always use to fight like husband and wife, Then the guy would get fucked up and hit on my buddy which was even more funny.


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Stan O'Zolol

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posted January 06, 2001 08:53 PM

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As much as I have fun reading this board, I hope it attracts a different type of crowd and is not truly a representative cross section of society as a whole. If it is, then it's very depressing for a hopless romantic like myself.


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runner

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posted January 06, 2001 10:46 PM

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i'm gay but have never had sex w/ someone i didn't think i loved. i'm sure i'm in the minority, but just like straight people gay people come in many different varieties...


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May1010

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posted January 06, 2001 11:09 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by runner:
i'm gay but have never had sex w/ someone i didn't think i loved. ...


Amateur!


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flexed1

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posted January 06, 2001 11:14 PM

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I agree with Runner and I am no amateur. (lol).


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Texas Guns

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posted January 07, 2001 12:34 AM

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Flexed1, go to bed!!!! what are you men doing home on Saturday night. You must all be at home having meaningful relationships, Right???? j/k

thanks for the call today...cheered us up a bunch!!

Mrs. TG


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flexed1

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posted January 07, 2001 03:13 AM

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mrs guns who said i was home? just got home 3:15 AM I must be a slut. (lol). Whats that you always say if you can rope me ya can ride me" laughing and going to bed


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JohnnyO

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posted January 07, 2001 04:05 AM

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flex1? oh. i just got home.. ... wish you were here?? love you.


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flexed1

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posted January 07, 2001 12:46 PM

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wish i was there? love me? hmmmmmm


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JohnnyO

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posted January 07, 2001 12:58 PM

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haha! i don't remember writing that! oh well they say you tell the truth when you are drunk.


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john937

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posted January 08, 2001 02:41 PM

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To sum up the above thread:
Some men shoot game because they hunger to eat.
Some men shoot game because they want the trophy for the wall.
And some men shoot game because its fun.


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Jae

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posted January 08, 2001 02:56 PM

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Believe it or not, gay men are more discriminating when it comes to picking a partner than straight men are in picking up a girl at a bar.

"Whoa, that bitch has a thumb ring and look at Pirate Shirt from last years International Male catalog. Damn Baby, needs a fashion check up."


And May1010, you don't know what a Daisy Chain is? Damn someone needs to confiscate your membership card.


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MP5

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I am not gay, but as a straight guy I admit if I was single and I met some broad at the bar and she was hot, and had a couple hot friends, I would definatley go home with all 3 of them and do some serious waxing. I have a girlfriend now so that would be out of the question.
On a side note, I would never want to have my girlfriend and I do this with others. I love her too much to share her or do that to her.

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Wombat

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posted January 08, 2001 06:13 PM

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Gay People are fine, its the FAGS the Suck!


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May1010

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posted January 08, 2001 06:18 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Wombat:
Gay People are fine, its the FAGS the Suck!


Wombat - which am I? Gay person or fag?


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Wombat

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posted January 10, 2001 07:09 PM

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Oh May your just a nice gay guy


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