I TALKED TO A REGULAR AND HE SAID ITS LIKE THAT EVERY JANUARY, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM COMING, ITS NOT MY GYM BUT GOD WHERE IS THEIR COURTESY? SOMEONE NEEDS TO TEACH THEM ETTIQUITTE OR AT LEAST HOW NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE.

I WAS DOING BARBELL BENCH FOR THE SECOND TIME EVER TONITE. ONLY USING 125 SINCE I'M ADAPTING TO IT, I CANT GET IN THE LAST REP...HAVE THE BAR ON MY CHEST AND THESE GUYS ARE JUST SITTING HERE, I'M TRYING TO GET THEIR ATTENTION SO THEN THEY RUN OVER TO HELP ME. THEY WERE LAUGHING THE WHOLE TIME (PROBABLY BECUASE I WAS USING RELATIVELY LIGHT WEIGHT) ANYWAY I AM JUST DEPRESSED, I HOPE THESE ASSHOLES LEAVE...ALL 50 OF THEM.

scare em all out by just looking intense, it will weed out the looky loos. hehe

AHHHH I KNWO WHAT IT WAS.....ITS THE TENTH ANNIVERSARTY CELEBRATION...AHH THANK GOD, THEY WERE GIVEN TRIAL MEMBERSHIPS....SWWWEEEETTT THEY'RE OUT OF THERE IN NO TIME.

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Originally posted by BigJay81:
Don't feel bad most of them leave and never come back after the first few times if they make it past that.
We take bets on who never comes back after the first day.
Its fun
Jay

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Jay just wrote what I was going to write...

It was like a circus in there my god. There was a middle aged woman and man and the woman was carrying around Bill Phillips' "body-for-life" book like it was her bible or something. I about lost it then.

If you dropped 125 on your chest and couldn't get it off you deserve to get laughed at.

And if someone is benching 405 you better keep you mouth shut and leave him alone or he'll eat you for a snack.

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

TOM ZENK: Dude, you really must not have a high self esteem if you have to cut down a 16 year old. I stated that it was my second time on barbell bench press. You mentioned the guys benching 405. Can you bench 405? I don't care how big you are youre a dumbass to cut down someone younger than you who is giving it their best. Besides, when I am your age I'll probably be benching more than you.

I find people who wait until a certain time to quit anything are bound to fail simply because if they arent willing to put forth the effort when they get the idea, then they will never have the effort to continue.

Who knows, maybe their sub. might pay for some new equipment?

(or at least some new CD`s)

I have two guys I normally work out with. Neither of them showed at 5 am this morning. I used a spotter, (someone who worked at the gym) when I got to my heavier sets. I was doing shoulders, (dumbbells then military barbell). Do not be afraid to ask for help.

You bitch and moan about new people in your gym and its really none of your business. Those people are not obligated to babysit or train you just because they train at the same gym as you.

Perhaps next time you should ask for a spot instead of judging everyone to be assholes. I find it hard to believe out of the 50 new members that joined your gym, they are all assholes as you say.

Better yet, dont overestimate how strong you are by lifting weight that you can't handle. I see it all the time, kids that lift with their egos and not their muscles. Piss poor form and execution on every single exercise they do. They squirm and wiggle, bounce and jerk weight around just to get it up.

You say you are 16 years old? Im guessing you just began weight training in the past year. Soon you get a car, then a girlfriend, then maybe go to school to pursue a career, then maybe get married and have kids. Somewhere along the way, your training goals are either sidetracked or all together forgotten about. Then one day you become one of these "new people" that once again step into a new gym with regular members that have been training there a long time. How would you feel if they thought that way about you? Lets see you keep this up for the next 5 or 10 years then tell me how you really feel.

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Originally posted by Tom Zenk:
Garza, I dont care if you're 16 or 60 years old.

You bitch and moan about new people in your gym and its really none of your business. Those people are not obligated to babysit or train you just because they train at the same gym as you.

Perhaps next time you should ask for a spot instead of judging everyone to be assholes. I find it hard to believe out of the 50 new members that joined your gym, they are all assholes as you say.

Better yet, dont overestimate how strong you are by lifting weight that you can't handle. I see it all the time, kids that lift with their egos and not their muscles. Piss poor form and execution on every single exercise they do. They squirm and wiggle, bounce and jerk weight around just to get it up.

You say you are 16 years old? Im guessing you just began weight training in the past year. Soon you get a car, then a girlfriend, then maybe go to school to pursue a career, then maybe get married and have kids. Somewhere along the way, your training goals are either sidetracked or all together forgotten about. Then one day you become one of these "new people" that once again step into a new gym with regular members that have been training there a long time. How would you feel if they thought that way about you? Lets see you keep this up for the next 5 or 10 years then tell me how you really feel.

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I figured I did not need a spot, I tried for the last rep and just gave out. I expect my numbers to increase, just a matter of getting used to the movement. I have good form too.

So how much do you bench? 405?

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

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Originally posted by BigJay81:
Really Insano.
Well It seems as though Frackal will have mail from me. HEHEHE I really wouldn't open it if I where. Fuck Head

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what is your beef with frackel dude? I am lost....

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"Mr. Phillips, are you honestly telling me that people are really going to believe that I'm the 'before,' and he's the 'after'?"

Yes I can be a dick but I just tell it like it is. The children that participate on this board are here for one reason only : they want steroids. How many of you have been e-mailed by them already asking where to get gear? These kids are 16, 17 year olds that have no business experimenting or reading a forum about steroids.

And no, I'm not a child. I'm much older than most of you here. When I was 16 I could bench 225 and squat 315, all without the use of steroids. Back then I understood about building a solid base before experimenting with any kind of drugs. I ate a lot and trained hard. I find it hard to believe a 16-18 year old kid could build a good enough base to begin steroid usage.

I didn't start my first cycle until my mid 20's. At that age I was 5'10", 220lbs, max benched 435, military pressed 245, squatted 495, deadlifted 405. Now almost 10 years and about 16 cycles later I'm 265lbs at 12% bf and maintain it quite well.

Too many kids experiment with the drugs for instant gratification. And don't believe what you hear about eating tons of food and training as hard as possible to make good gains while on the gear. Back when I was in High School, kids that used steroids knew nothing about nutrition or training yet they still blew up like balloons from the drugs.

It sickens me to see so many young kids participate in this type of forum. Kids are easily impressionable and when they read about the great gains someone gets off a cycle they want nothing more than to start one themselves.

As for KFC, my days at that shit job are numbered, as soon as I'm out of HS I'm out of there as well, probably to work at my gym before college.

You're a fucking asshole to put it bluntly, and I do NOT want to be associated with you at all.

I am almost 19, and I repeat, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT, NOT TO MENTION BARELY ANY INFORMATION, TO JUDGE ME AT ALL!!!

Yes, when I first came here over a year ago I was like every other uneducated American about steroids. Now I know the truth.

Since we are judging people, I will say that you are a bitter motherfucker, I wonder, do you get picked on often in real life?

Also, I let out my agression here. I am not really as explosive in real life as I am on this message board. It's relieving to me to be able to go off and not be concerned about the consequences. So with that being said; GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! (original tonight)

A 19 year old is still a child that has much to learn. You say I have no right to judge you? I think I can safely say that you're not quite ready for a cycle. Spend some time to evaluate your life, body and anger management.

I honestly don't wish to see you or any other kid use something potentially harmful that their body isn't ready for yet. I've seen too many young kids fall victim to delusions of grandeur. You have already admitted to using many types of recreational drugs when you were "younger" as you said. Once drugs are abused once, there is greater danger for it to happen again reagrdless of what type of drug it is.

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Originally posted by Tom Zenk:
When I was 16 I could bench 225 and squat 315, all without the use of steroids.

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That is a good bench for a 16 year old at about 160-180 pounds.

Did you compete in powerlifting back then because you could have been a good lifter in high school?

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You are about half right with your evaluation of me.

You'll have to take my word for it, but I can honestly say that I have control over my anger, it's not really a serious issue. I get a bit 'testy,' but I have only been in one fight in my life and I have excellent self control.

As far as being ready for a cycle, if you only knew the amount of work I have put into this, I don't think you would say that.

I can't really see any reason why not to start a cycle in approximately 3 months, once I'm sure my back is 100% and I have regained my previous natural weight of 6' 195 with abs.

You cannot possibly know all the factors in my life that affect whether or not I go forward with AS use, and I feel that I am making the right decision.

As far as past recreational drug use, I did, but I never had a problem with addiction, honestly. Even meth I stopped when I realized how bad it was. And I quit smoking after 3 years of a pack a day in less than 1 week.

I smoked from age 13 to 16.
I did meth when I was 14.
You have no skeletons?

I never said anything about smoking weed. Many people here drink and use GHB but I thought ingestion of marijuana once a month or so would be a safe way to kick back.
I doubt I will even do it.