I understand to get the most from eq you must inject twice a week and combine with test in a bulking and winny, primo in a cutting.

Eq is much cheaper than deca and no one has had problems with sterility?

Would this not make Eq a better choice.

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Secondly, they are only similar but not even close to the same thing. You can use Deca and EQ in a stack and get something out of each steroid.

Finally, Deca is much better for bulking when used alone.

"I understand to get the most from eq you must inject twice a week and combine with test in a bulking and winny, primo in a cutting."

I did not mention that deca could not be used alone.

In reply to eq is veterinary, I did not ask about that, in fact I know that which is why I stated Eq is much cheaper than deca and no one has had problems with sterility?

As for your ending, I really do not see where it is coming from and I quote you

"BTW- Stacking is something that should not be done until a user has done a few cycles. You need to learn how to walk before you run. Mature users are not into "instant gratification" like most children are. They slowly build up dosages and stacks".

Why in your answer are you condescending. Almost every day I never fail to be amazed by a Moderators attitude or the way in which he carry's himself. In fact so far there are only 2 or 3 out there that I have the highest amount of respect for.

Eq is better, even though it is a vet drug (hehe 2thick)

As for EQ being veterinary, it means that is has lower production standards and yes, there are people with infections from EQ. There are about 80% of steroid users that do not participate in the Internet scene. Many of them that get infections some of the time from vet products.

If you believe I am condescending when I reply then you do not know me very well. I do not disrespect anyone that doesn't deserve it. It is not worth my time.

In fact it may be your subconscious mind that is conflicting with what you think you believe, so it may be you and not me that makes you feel as if you are being patronized.

Eq does not have to be stacked to be effective. By itself it can be used at a moderate dose for bridging or at a higher dose for mass development. Obviously the amount of those gains will depend largely upon your previous AS use and diet/ training.

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Originally posted by 2Thick:
As for EQ being veterinary, it means that is has lower production standards and yes, there are people with infections from EQ. There are about 80% of steroid users that do not participate in the Internet scene. Many of them that get infections some of the time from vet products.

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I must disagree with you here. As an individual that has worked in pharmaceutical laboratories, I can attest that there is no difference in the standards between human and veterinary grade pharmaceuticals. Most of the time when a medication is made, the individuals in the manufacturing process do not even know which market the drug will be used for. Therefore, the standards have to be the same.

And i agree with 2Thick. There is a difference "human" grade" or "vet grade".
It is not because ONE firm has the same grade for his products, that they all do.
Look at South America, just scary.

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A lot of guys had problems with Tornel, Brovel gear. We all must see it like this:
human gear cannot be improved (for comsumption). Vet gear can be improved. To make vet stuff human grade the production price goes up. So the street price will be more expensive. That's one of the reasons that Winstrol Zambon is far better then Denkall Stanazolol or any vet Winny. But Zambon is more expensive.

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Thanks everyone,

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Originally posted by Jeff_rys:
Our example Winny Zambon is microrefined and it still believe making the Zambon human grade is more expensive then the Winny V.

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The Ilium Stanazolic product is also microrefined, yet MUCH cheaper than the Zambons. The "V" may not be microrefined simply because it's made for the vet market, and it's easier to use an 18g or larger needle for a horse or cow than it is for a human. But it says nothing about the purity of a substance. And if you drink it, what difference does it make if it is microrefined?

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The package of 20 Zambon amps costs maybe more than the package of a 20 cc bottle.

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You're right on this point -- but the cost difference is still minimal compared to the markup between the products. You're going to be paying a great deal more for a product made for the human market, but it has nothing to do with product quality.

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Don't tell me nobody ever had problems with Tornel or Brovel (and i am even not talking about the underdosing, that you don't have with the human grade Zambon (our example).

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I won't defend Brovel, as that company is crappy. Even the vet suppliers don't like their products. Tornel, on the other hand, has a very good operation. Their products have a good reputation, are clean, and yes, I have not heard of a person over the last year have a problem with their products. I, personally, have been using them with no issues. Problems probably arise from one of a few possibilities: unsterile injection techniques or receiving a fake product from a dealer (something I don't worry about).

When someone uses a multi-dose vial, there will always seem to be an issue of the product being underfilled (NOT underdosed -- Tornel products have tested out well in independent lab testing). The markings on a syringe are not gospel, but only a ballpark reading. Therefore, you could be pulling in a little more than 2 cc when you're attempting to only get 2 cc from the vial. Plus you have to factor in the waste associated with pulling out the drawing needle and the unused portion left in the syringe after injecting.

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