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 What to do when your body stops responding
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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to gear. I know someones gonna say, "come off" but.. the pro's stay on year round and they are huge.. what can I do to keep growing? Im not responding to test anymore at all.. I still get good pumps and my strength is up but my lifts are staying the same and so is my weight. Im under the impression all gear uses the same receptors, but I think others have different opinions.. so if this is true, switching drugs wouldn't help me, right? I just don't understand the whole receptor thing, and YES I have read up on it. But...... everyone says if u stay on year round you'll be constantly growing but I just don't see how.. i think i've completely stopped..     | ||
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Moderator 
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If you are not responding to test anymore then switch to a high anabolic compound like EQ or Primobolan at about 200-400mg per week for 8-10 weeks. You will need really high levels of protein to get the most out of those compounds. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Found this out Spunky, hope this helps. I believe the best answer is to come off which is what you probably dont want to here. If you must stay on listen to 2Thick, stop test for 8 wks and go on to primo/eq primo/deca. Enjoy the read 1. Ideally we would want a system that would allow for bodybuilders to come completely off steroids for a minimum period of three weeks to allow the body to stabilize, that is return to homeostasis, while maintaining the majority of the size they gained while on. This allows for continuous growth, not the eventual plateau that is reached by never coming off. Many pro bodybuilders have reached a plateau, and simply administer incredible amounts of bodybuilding drugs to maintain the mass they have built. These individuals reach this stage after years and years of heavy juicing. Take any pro bodybuilder and you will discover they all follow the same pattern. When they first began using steroids they took minimal amounts. As time went on, they took more and more to continue growing. As time goes on, cycles end and they remain on growth drugs continuously, ensuring two things. One, they won't lose any of their hard earned size, and two, that they can never successfully go off the drugs in order to clean out and give their receptors a chance to up-regulate. When the body is exposed to large amounts of exogenous anabolics for long periods of time, several things happen. Endogenous production of testosterone will cease since blood levels of androgens are at supraphysiological levels. With continued use, androgen receptors will down regulate as the body attempts to maintain homeostasis. This down regulation of steroid receptors is one of the primary reasons why the first cycle of steroids is usually the most effective. Fortunately for us, training helps keep this down regulation of steroid receptors in check, at least to some degree. This is one of the reasons why trained muscles grow while on steroids while untrained muscles do not. While supraphysiological levels of androgens are down regulators of androgen receptors, intense muscular contractions are up-regulators". If you do wish to continue using test then stop for 2 wks (3 would be better) and use clomid and hcg with proviron/nolva combo, creatine, glutamine, zma formula and multi vitamin mineral tab. 5 grams of vit c / day for 2 wks. Lessen up on the training and then come back on hard, higher than when you came off. This should cause a burst of new muscle growth. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1312 |
sounds like good ideas.. i think i will take 3-4 weeks off.... probably 3 and use my clomid and the trib i have on the way. I've got plenty of multivitamins and enough creatine to last 3 weeks.... Will my receptors clean out during this time? | ||
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Cool Novice 
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im not telling you to come off completly but do come off for three weeks. then hit it hard again. remember to increse your calories by 500 more until you start gaining wight. and sleep alot.8-10hrs per day. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1000 |
That is the best advice. Come off for a few weeks. And remember, just cuz the big guys never come off and keep increasing their dosages doesn't mean that they are right. I'm big and I come off all the time! ------------------ |
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posted December 28, 2000 11:37 AM