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roidog420

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posted December 27, 2000 01:45 PM

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I was thinking of ordering some of the infamous winstrol powder & was curious as to some of you bros opinions on that, as well as the other powders that are offered. Also, how's the service(delivery time etc.) Thanks!


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roidog420

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posted December 27, 2000 01:48 PM

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Also, how do you measure out a single dose for that shit?? A single dose being 50mgs. Thanks again


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KINGKONG69

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posted December 27, 2000 01:55 PM

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IM THINKING ABOUT ORDERING SOME SOON ALSO, AS FAR AS MEASUING DOSES, I WAS TOLD TO MIX 5 GRAMS OF POWDER WITH 200ml OF EVERCLEAR, BACARDI 151, OR SOME EVEN SAY WATER. TAKE IT ORALY, AND 5 GRAMS, ALONG WITH 200ml OF ANY OF THE ABOVE WILL GIVE YOU 25mg/ml. IF YOU WANT 50mg/ml, MIX THE POWDER WITH 100ml, INSTEAD OF 200ml.


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What does mixing it with alcohol or any other liquid do. If it is an oral such as the winny is can't you just dump the shit in your mouth or just put in a capsule????? Just wondering. I have been thinking of getting an order up for the future. But I haven't found any clear procedure on how to measure the stuff out. I have checked the search engine, maybe I am doing it wrong...Any help from you guy's who have used the powders would be appreciated!!
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KINGKONG69

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posted December 27, 2000 03:25 PM

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ITS MIXED WITH ALCHOL TO KILL ANY KIND OF BACTERIA, AND SOME SAY, YOU DONT NEED THE ALCHOL, AND GO AHEAD AND MIX IT WITH WATER, BUT YOU WANT TO MIX IT IN ORDER TO GET AN ACCURATE DOSE. WOULDNT THAT BE EASIER THEN SITTING THERE LOADING LITTLE CAPS UP, AND HAVEING TO USE SCALES AND SHIT.


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Stew Meat

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posted December 27, 2000 03:27 PM

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Wouldn't injecting with ethanol raise your blood alocohol too high?


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guitarzan

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posted December 27, 2000 03:43 PM

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Service is un-fucking believable, packaging is great. If you're doing a win only cycle, forget it, don't waste your time. If I had it to do over I would:

1. Stack it
2. Chop it up like a drug dealer or some other method that you don't have to mix it with liquid. Then throw the measured doses in to a drink of some kind, not alcoholic, right before drinking it.
3. Spread it out over the day.


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guitarzan

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posted December 27, 2000 03:50 PM

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I have some D-bol powder right now. This time I mixed it with water, stupid, it clumps up and gets all fucked up. Then I tried to extract a measured dose through a regular needle. Mistake. It's all clumped up, doses are very uneven. I found a solution though. If you have a disposable needle, take the actual needle off. Then you can suck the liquid out in a measured dose and still get all of the product out. Works great.


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posted December 27, 2000 07:06 PM

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Guitarzan I had the same result when I mixed Yohimbe with water. I think a mix of water and propylene glycol is best. Or you could just use propylene glycol, which is what I will do this soummer. Last summer I did 100mg Winny ED orally with Fina, and the results were awesome!! Watch yourself turn into a piece of granite!!


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roidog420

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posted December 27, 2000 09:53 PM

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Bump. So this shit is good stuff though??


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vdevil

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posted December 27, 2000 10:11 PM

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USE PROPYLENE GLYCOL!!!!!!!!!!!!It is 13 dollars a gallon.THat is what is used in refrvit. It effectively breaks down the dbol,winny, or anadrol into a clear solution.
You can mix one gram at a time with 40mls. Put it in a sealed multi use vial. Draw it out with an 18guage pin and shoot it into a cap and swallow it. It is that easy.


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guitarzan

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posted December 27, 2000 10:22 PM

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With all due respect, it doesn't sound THAT easy, sounds like a pain in the ass.


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Amp

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posted December 27, 2000 10:42 PM

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I made 100 50mg capsules using the cap-m-quick tool. It took me about an hour to do this and you don't need a scale. It was a bit of a pain but I like having the convenience of capsules and they are fairly accurately dosed.


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d1734

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posted December 27, 2000 10:56 PM

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where do you guys order propylene glycol?


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d1734

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posted December 27, 2000 11:35 PM

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BUMP, wanna order some propylene glycol tonight


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moondog

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posted December 27, 2000 11:54 PM

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You can get it at large hardware stores, as well. Ironically, its the stuff you put in cigar humidor sponges to keep them moist.


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tito1

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posted December 28, 2000 12:03 AM

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bump


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d1734

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posted December 28, 2000 12:30 AM

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moondog, can you be more specific? i don't shop at any places like that so i'm just wondering, sorry if it's a dumb question.


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roidog420

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posted December 28, 2000 12:48 AM

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Why bother with the PG if you can just put the powder in a capsule & take it??


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BigJay81

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posted December 28, 2000 12:54 AM

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RoidDawg, The amount that is sent is very small you have to mix it or the mg/mg dossage would be screwed up completly. Mix it with the gel You can get it for like $20 and it will mix up about 5 powder goods


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d1734

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posted December 28, 2000 01:05 AM

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can anyone just tell me where to get PG? i know there are places on the net that have it but i couldn't find them in a search engine.


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Amp

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posted December 28, 2000 01:09 AM

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If you use the cap m quick tool it's really easy. You cut the powder with confectioners sugar mix it up and it makes the exact amount of caps you want at the dose you want. If you are making high dose caps it's easy, if you want to make anything smaller than 25mg it becomes too time consuming and a pain in the ass. That's why I opted to make the 50mg caps. Next time I will make 200 25mg caps though for my cutting cycle in the spring. That way I can take 3 per day spaced out for a total of 75mg per day.


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Saizen

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posted December 28, 2000 01:10 AM

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Well I'm taking the powdered db, I measured it on a scale and made each bag 25 mg worth and take 3 bags a day. I just open my mouth and fucking swallow the powder like a puta and chase it down with water man. I don't see where the complication lies -unless you don't have a scale-


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roidog420

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posted December 28, 2000 01:11 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by BigJay81:
RoidDawg, The amount that is sent is very small you have to mix it or the mg/mg dossage would be screwed up completly. Mix it with the gel You can get it for like $20 and it will mix up about 5 powder goods


OK Im gonna just say it. I have NO clue when it comes to how to handle these powdered items, so you guys are gonna have to talk to me like a 10 year-old here. Take the whole 5g of Winstrol powder & mix it with how much PG to get how many mgs per/ml??? Where do you get the empty vials?


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BigJay81

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posted December 28, 2000 01:17 AM

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This is a bit expensive but If you go to GNC buy some Inestitol Powder And cut it with the powder product...Its locked up in the plastic case.. Its used to cut Cocaine


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Burnboy

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posted December 28, 2000 02:30 AM

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where can you get one of those cap-m-quick things?

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Amp

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posted December 28, 2000 02:38 AM

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Got mine direct from the company, ordered by the web site.
http://www.cap-m-quik.com/


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vdevil

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posted December 28, 2000 10:08 AM

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O.k

Propyleneglycol 13.00 1 gallon
5 100ml sealed vials with stopper 8.00
I box of 18 guage pins 100ct 8.00
I .01mg scale (optional) 140.00

The scale can be bought at any head shop.
It is well worth it. You can accurately measure out 1 gram. You can make five seperate cycles of dbol.

I have made over 30 grams of powder like this. That is 30 bottles of 40ml's of liquid dbol or anadrol. At say 120 bucks a pop, that is 3600.00 dollars. See where I am going with this?

Mail me for supplies. Legal supplies that is.
I am not a source. I merely am showing that it is well worth it to buy these thing, including the scale

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roid, get some propolene glycol, like what ref b is suspended in and measure out a given amount of it and mix the powder into it. Then just do the math. Trying to weigh the stuff is far too tedious

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Amp

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I've had a few emails about making the caps so here are some basic instructions that I had originally.

I use the 00 size caps because they are bigger and easier to work with. You would need 200 caps to make 25mg winny caps with 5 grams. I have included directions on making the caps but here's how it works. You fill about 20 caps full of winny powder or how ever many caps it takes to use all the winny. Then you fill the rest of the caps with filler (I use confectionary powdered sugar). So now you have 200 caps full - around 20 with winny, 180 with sugar. Dump the caps into a sieve and shake into a bowl. Then put into a ziplock bag and shake very well to mix. Now you have an even mixture of winny and sugar that will fill 200 caps.
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I used the 00. The 00 caps are big enough that it makes them easy to work with.

These are the instructions I followed. It seemed confusing at first but it's actually really easy.

Scale free evenly dosed capsule method.


This method allows you to make your own capsules in the following strengths
50mg, 25mg, 20mg, 12.5mg, 10mg, or 5mg.

The lower the strength capsule you make the longer the amount of time it
takes to make them.

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You will need the following items :-


The 'Cap-m-Quik' unit and tamping tool.

1000 empty gel caps, most people use '00' size.

Kitchen sieve (the kind you use for making a cake etc )

Glass bowl.

Icing sugar or any other fine edible powder.

One sheet of dark coloured paper or card.

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The 'Cap-m-Quik' unit and tamping tool and empty gel caps can be purchased
from the following websites :-
www.cap-m-quik.com
http://www.developed.net/capsule.htm

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Please note it is very important that the seive and bowl are completely
dry if they are not any powder
that sticks to them will be unusable.

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Firstly unpack and assemble the 'Cap-m-Quik' unit according to manufacturers instructions.

Carefully open the powdered envelope contents by pulling apart the two halves at the corner.

Remove the selaed bag and cut it open over a sheet of dark paper (so all
powder is easily visible and none gets lost)

Decide what strength capsules you are going to make

Desired capsule strength. Number of capsules required 'X'.

50 mg 100
25 mg 200
20 mg 250
12.5 mg 400
10 mg 500
5 mg 1000


The 'Cap-m-Quik' unit holds 50 capsules at a time, you are going to fill
as many of'X' as u can with pure powder. ( in the case of dbol this will be around 15 caps ) the rest you will fill with icing sugar until the first 50 capsules are full. Be sure to use the tamping tool to ensure there is the same volume of powder or icing sugar in each capsule.

Now empty the first 50 full capsule halves into the sieve and catch the
contents in the glass bowl.

Continue filling empty capsules with icing sugar and emptying them into
the sieve until you reach the target total number of capsules X.

Shake the sieve over the glass bowl so that all the powder falls out of
the half capsules into the glass bowl below.

Next pour the contents of the bowl into a ziplock bag and shake the bag
for a minute or so to completely mix the powder and icing sugar.

Now use the 'Cap-m-Quik' unit to make a batch of 50 complete caps using
the mixture in the bag. Each of the complete caps will contain the desired amount of chemical.

You do not have to make the whole batch at this time you can make just the first 50 and make a further fifty when you need them, just be sure to shake the bag before you make any capsules.


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KINGKONG69

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posted December 28, 2000 12:57 PM

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THAT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE A PAIN IN THE ASS, AND IT DONT SOUND ACCURATE AT ALL. SOME PILLS MIGHT HAVE 5mg OF WINNY, WELL OTHERS 50mg. HELL SOME COULD END UP WITH JUST SUGAR.


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vdevil

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O.K Here we go:
Now when I make 5 grams, i do it one gram at a time. I combine 1 gram of powder with 40mls of glycol for a final sloution of 25mgs/ml. You can actually use any mixing ratio you like. The following is for making two bottles usin 2.5 grams in each. Say if you and your bud want to split 5grams.
First off, you need some supplies.

Here is what you need 1 gallon p. glycol 13.00
2 Sealed 125ml. vials 2.50 each
1 60 ml syringe 1.00
1 bag of 1000 caps' 000' size 8 or 9 bucks(well worth it)
You really snould have 18 guage pins as well 8.00 for a box of 100
Also A scale to accurately weigh out 2.5 grams

Here is the process:

1.Put an 18guage pin on and pull the plunger out of the 60ml syringe
and hold it upright(set it up in a glass so it stays)
2. Pour 51ml of glycol into the syringe(pour till it hits the 51ml mark on the syringe)
3. Next , weigh out 2.5 grams and pour it into the syringe.
4. Replace the plunger Carefully!!!! (I have lost a whole cycle because It wasn't on good enough and fell out)
5. Now let it dissolve for a while in the dart(snap it with your finger at top to get any clogs or clumps out)
6. Now Shoot it all into the empty Vial and shake it.
7. When it is all dissolved, it will look like water.

Your final solution will be 49mg/ml-------------2500mg divided by 51mls= 49mg/ml

To dose it, draw out .25ml. Squirt it into a cap and swallow. Do this three time a day.
Each dose will contain 12.25mg of dbol. So your total dose is like 36.75mg a day

This is a very simple and accurate method.
You can get the supplies here:
Mail me for an addy

Hope this helps,
VInce



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vdevil rules....great job i glad someone can figure this out.


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ryker77

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Could I just use some b12 to mix with the powder Prop? At 3.95 for 50ml b12 seams like a cheap base. It would be great if it did work b12 and prop.

?..?


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2Thick

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DO NOT MIX IT WITH ALCOHOL

I don't know what some people are thinking when they want to mix alcohol with 17AA gear?

KingKong, whomever told you that has no respect for their body.


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put a starburst in the microwave and heat it until its flexible and gewy. Place the right amount of powder on it and wrap it up. Swallow it whole..a lil difficult but you can do it!!


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2 Thick it would only be a few ml's/day which isn't even close to a whole shot


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posted December 28, 2000 07:29 PM

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I don't really like the idea of mixing my gear with grain alcohol either. Just doesn't seem right to me...


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