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Author | Topic: Punch power | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
What can I do to have the strongest, quickest, otherwise meanest right cross possible? I'm looking to be able to knock fuckers out with one punch who weigh upwards of 250 | ||
Guru Posts: 4018 |
trainning | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 210 |
cheque drops | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 580 |
Ok bro I can defiantely feild this question as I have taught Ju Jitsu for 6 years and have boxed for 4. As far as I am concerned the most important factors for one punch knockout power are body mechanics(technique) and speed and accuracy. Remember speed is power ,strength alone will not produce a hard punch. Also bodyweight is a consideration as I have personally experienced good increases in power by just adding bodyweight , my strength stayed the same and all other variables stayed the same. I have my students do push presses, power cleans and trunk twists holding a 50lb plate in front of them to increase explosive power and I have seen peoples punch power go through the roof just by adding these three exercises to their training. anyway I hate typing so if you would like me to give you a programe or any more detailed help drop me an email. luca | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 20 |
rotate your hips. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 143 |
tae bo, .....just fuckin with you. strong bones make for a solid punch. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 231 |
You're going to end up dead or in jail. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 486 |
quote: Excellent post bro.. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 322 |
Luca gave a decent answer, but I bet you overlooked the best answer given yet. 'Training,' Big Jay said it best. Any instructor worth a crap will teach you exactly what you want to know. Developing a solid, fast, accurate cross(or quick combo) won't take anytime at all with decent instruction. However, If you learn to only throw a right cross YOU WILL LOSE. Too many variables in fighting. What if you miss? What if its blocked? What if there's a weapon? What do all street fighters expect their opponent to begin with?...A right hook. There are so many counters to a right hook its silly. Learn many attacks and counters. Jabbing is one option thats a much more effective initiation of a fight, anyone who has experience will agree. The only acceptable answer is to train. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Thaibox most of the time it wont be an experienced fighter I'm going against. It would be somebody who insulted me and then me suckerpunching them. I figure if I'm on juice 6'5 250 then one punch would be all I'd need. I'm just looking for excersises to strengthen that right cross. I have a sparring dummy/heavy bag I shadow box with. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 122 |
My suggestion would be to stop being a homo. j/k! | ||
Guru Posts: 4077 |
LOL @ TIM, Although I can't condone his attitude, I definitly appreciate the honesty! lol 'He insults me, I sucker punch him' heheheh ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board)
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 156 |
The absolute most important thing is "where" you hit the person. You must hit the guy on the point of the chin, and at an angle so that the head spins. Otherwise it's an accumulation of blows. If it's a sucker punch, the number one best spot is the back of the neck, pretty puss though. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 28 |
If you're 6'5" and 250, why would you need to suckerpunch someone? Just stand in front of them and tell them that they're about to recieve the beating of their lives and do it. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 96 |
Tim i was in karate for 9 years and have boxed for 2 years and fought probably every other day on the street before that.I am only 5'6 195 and I had that thinking if you step on my boots I will break your face if you bump into me I will rip your head off or if I find that i can't whip them i would just have to kill em thinking . I can tell you its hard to put up with people sometimes BUT if you start going to JAIL and then start having the law suits coming in for broken jaws or broken noses like I did you will find another way to handle your anger as i have and you will live alot longer some people will KILL YOU for less than a sucker punch these days. Show peace and you will have peace most of the time. just my 0.2cents | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 156 |
Pitbull2 EXACTLY Don't go lookin' for trouble or you WILL find it. It's great to know you can defend yourself or anyone with you, but to go out lookin for trouble is stupid. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 253 |
hey bro, I don't know who you intend to get into a fight with, but you better hope they don't have ANY, and I do mean ANY, martial arts training. Anyone with a year or more of "good" training in the martial arts will use your right cross as something to shove up your ass. No flame here bro, but unless you set up that right cross with something else, it's going to be used and abused like a cheap whore. Good fighters learn how to develop short power, you should look into that. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Yeah well i have a reach thats longer than Mohammed Ali's so I'm looking for a combo that would be a couple of left jabs then a right cross. I've already knocked out some chinese guy that knew karate with one punch. He was trying to kick me and shit and it didnt even move me. Of course he was smaller than me but then again most people are. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 198 |
I'm with moondog, chequedrops for sure. If you're fit and have a decent punch, chequedrops will do the rest. Of course you may decide to bite earlobes off also.... ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
yeah cheque drops will turn me into a madman for sure but its not like I'm preparing for a fight or anything. It's more like if I ever run into this punk I have a problem with I want to knock him out. He's puny and untrained so I'm not too worried here. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 322 |
If he's puny and untrained, you'll just crush his head with a cross bro. Legally not a slick move. Just tag his sternum and walk. He'll drop and won't have a bloody concaved face to show the cops. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 632 |
Hire Mike the bite ty son | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 76 |
a protein fart would probably kill him come on, lighten up a touch. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 60 |
There is nothing more satisfying than standing face to face with someone, and dropping them with one solid body shot. It is so rewarding to hear the air leaving their lungs, then watching them fold into the fetal position on the ground, and uncontrollably puke their guts up. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
ha ha thats rad. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 724 |
I think if you really are 6'5 and 250 and are looking to find out how to load up your right cross to hit some smaller untrained guy...well than that says a lot about you...its says your a big pussy..and you are probably one of those guys that got out of fights just by intimidation of your size...I tell you what...you better hope your right cross sucker punch knocks this guy out...cuz if it was me..I would drag your 6'5 pussy ass down to the ground where we can see eye to eye...then see how well you fight..... You got me fired up... I hope Im the guy your talking about......... | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 580 |
After hearing your other responses Tim it sounds to me like you may have been beaten up and now have one of those "I never want to be in that position again" type attitudes going? would I be correct at all. I'll return your email tonight , just very busy right now. Luca | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
no thats not it all luca I'm sorry if you guys get that impression. I'm just looking to be able to take advantage of the size and strength ive been getting if i were ever in a fight again. And even though I said yeah id suckerpunch somebody I said it more as a joke. and i only got my ass kicked once and it was in probably the fourth grade. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 122 |
Tim, Quit wasting your time on this and go design another one of your cycles that you never intend on doing. Times wasting! 6'5" 250lbs???? It always changes doesn't it Tim? It's all good tho - you're plan of going on every board and getting people pissed at you always seems to work. Hey BTW- how is your dog's cycle going? Is he huge yet? | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1324 |
LOL!! Tim = royce gracie | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 171 |
I USED TO BOX WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, FOR AROUND 12 YEARS. YOU GUYS WONT LIKE THIS BUT IT IS MY EXPERIENCE THAT MUSCLE HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH A KNOCKOUT PUNCH. DONT GET ME WRONG, YOU CANT BE A WEAKLIN. THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO HARD HITTING IS THIS, YOU HAVE TO PUNCH THROUGH THE TARGET, JUST LIKE YOU SWING A BASEBALL BAT, YOU DONT HIT FOR THE FRONT OF THE CHIN, YOU HIT FOR THE BACK OF THE HEAD. PUNCH STRAIGHT THROUGH. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 604 |
Roarke: so true | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 126 |
I'll tell you this with certainty, you hit a guy in the nuts, the fight is over. Fuck standing their like an idiot. One nut shot and a hit to the kidneys and the fight is over. The key to fighting and staying alive is geting the fight over as quick as possible. I have seen many guys take a flying right hook in the jaw and sit their and laugh, I've never seen a guy stand after being hit in the sack, nuf said!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 71 |
LMAO at Hoeycow!!! Tim, you better not fuck around. If you can't "Fight" you got no business fighting. Take a step back and think for a sec what you are asking...on a discussion board...on the internet. I am 6'0" and 205 lbs and if some big mother EVER sucker punched me like you said you wanted to do (don't try to take it back) if he DIDN'T knock me out, he'd be in for a world of hurt. If he did knock me out, I would wait and wait and wait until I saw him again, then I would kneecap him with whatever I could get my hands on at the time. After that, I would lay the boots to him so that when HE woke up, he would NEVER, EVER, forget that day and what he did to deserve that. You better smarten the fuck up. How fucking old are you anyway? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Im 20 years old. And you have to remember that most people walking around aren't juiced up like everybody on this board. I keep a low profile and if I was ever in a fight with somebody I'd be sure to make them scared to ever even look me in the eyes again. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 71 |
You better be careful. I'm just saying that cuz there's always someone tougher than you. Streetfighting is not a game. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Oh believe me I know that. It's not like I'm walking around looking to get into fights. I just want to be able to have no fear if it ever arises though. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 90 |
If you gonna go looking for a fight, nowadays you will more then likely be shot first because of your size. You wont have to worry about sucker punching somebody. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 46 |
You got a good bench press? Rotate your hips and get all you weight behind it. Aim right for the side of the nose and let-er-rip... You'd be suprised what looking in the mirror and seeing a stream of blood would do to a person. You're never going to be able to hurt the guy, but a good whallop on the nose should do the trick... ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 63 |
I'm with landry. I'm not nearly as experienced with martial arts as some of you guys (2 years of TKD), but one thing I've learned is if you kick a man in the balls, HE WILL GO DOWN. And that's it. And you martial arts guys know that's one of the easiest and fastest kicks you can do. Why fuck around. Besides, a well placed punch in the face can be potentially lethal, so imagine going to jail for some period of time because some jackass insulted you. It's not worth it. There needs to be more bars/clubs around with the sole purpose of having fools go in there just to beat the shit out of each other. That way I can go out and enjoy myself and get laid without watching some stupid toughguy make an ass out of himself because he's looking for a fight. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
quote: Thats funny man. It's a great feeling to knock somebody out. I've only done it once in self defense and it felt so good. I dont want to kick someone in the balls because that's pretty cheap I mean I'd rather make them bleed and have people around going "ohhh!" | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 157 |
Hey tim, did you have your lunch money taken from you alot in grade school? And BTW, are you sure you're 6'5 and 250lbs...seems that you gain 1" and 15lbs. every time you post. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
sorry I'm actually 230 now but I just started a heavy eq/sust/dbol cycle so I'll be at least 250 when it's over. I'm just speaking about the future if I get in a fight. Calm down ya envious bastard. ha ha | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 71 |
Hey Tim, shhhhhhhhhhhhh. Just shhhhhhhhhhh. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 133 |
LUCK!!!!LOL ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 253 |
You know what tim, I'm being dead serious about this too-so listen good, your size doesn't mean shit, I know a 130pound dude that would maul you. Trust me, he's thrown my 6ft 245 pound ass like I was his bitch. You have to learn how to actually fight well before you can think about knocking someone out with one punch. Think about Tyson, he's a hell of alot smaller than you, would you fight him? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 157 |
Post some pics timmy, and I'll be more than happy to shut my mouth. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Let me see how many flames this comment gets me: I'll knock out everyone of you bastards on this board with one punch!!! ha ha ha | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 198 |
You're a good sport Tim. Brass knuckles bro. Brass knuckles or a lead lined glove. Those are good for one punch knockouts. Myself, I prefer rubber bullets. Those are good for a knockdown. You know, the kind Israeli occupation forces use. LOL ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
damn man brass knuckles? That would ruin a persons face. I'd be scared to hit somebody with that. ha ha | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1324 |
Tim: You think kicking someone in the balls is cheap? But you said something about sucker punching earlier.......... hmm.. Dude, this is my opinion.. Just my .2cents! | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 632 |
You got problems if it "felt so good" to knock someone out after insulting you. Sounds like you got no skills since you wanna suckerpunch some poor bastard instead of finding out what happens if you get into a real fight. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 13 |
Nine out of ten fights end up on the ground. If your not confident with your right hook or follow up punch then learn to ground fight ( Jujitsu or wrestling ). Also some guys can take one hell of a punch so to train for a one punch fight doesn't make sense. Train for the whole package then you should be able to handle the situation with some capabilty. Even then there is no guarantee! | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 457 |
jerk off a lot and you will have the strongest punch in the world | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
yeah well i doubt ill ever be a good ground fighter. I think my best chance would be to keep my distance. I'm pretty tall and lean you know? I'd get creamed on the ground probably. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 42 |
better yet, don't jerk off and you will feel like a madman!!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 181 |
dude..if you have to ask how to knock someone out...chances are you aren't going to be able to do it. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
well I've done it before and if you actually read my post you'd realize that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking what excersizes and training would be best for gaining power in my right cross | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 34 |
Hey Timmy! you fucking punk! Why don't you answer your friggin email you 230 pound bastard! When I see you, I'm going to drag your 6'5'' ass to the ground and beat you to death! hehe, just kidding. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1026 |
I seriously can't wait until this post dies. I see it fall all the way to the bottom, then bam back up to the top. This post is useless. Grow the fuck up bro. "I was insulted therfore I need to "sucker punch" somebody" I'm 30 and I can't remember the last time I was even close to getting into a fight. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 134 |
Why do you care if it dies or not? It obviously interets some members or else there wouldn't be what? 60 replies? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 71 |
Grow up. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 225 |
develope a strong form. litterly hit the bag, do tons of push ups with ur nuckles, u want to transform ur arm into a fuckn club. once ur arm is set, once its as hard and sturdy as a rock. then u go for speed, and then u go for power, but moving your whole body behind ur fist. but u wont be able to up ur whole body behind ur fist until ur fist, and arm is a rock. | ||
Novice Posts: 2 |
Dudes relax...I mean don't we all want to be able to defend ourselves if necessary. I certainly don't go around starting fights but if you need to drop someone you better know how to do it. Everyone's given good advice about punching but to mentally prepare for it I suggest that you picture this dude and his boys getting up and beating you to death if you don't drop him w/ one punch. That'll give you the adrenline rush you'll need to put your hand through his head. But like everyone else says..try to avoid it. Think about it for a while you're going to be worried about going out to a party and getting too drunk cuz there might be a chance you'll see this kid again and you'll be off guard. Avoid it as much as possible. I had to back down 2 times from a fight before dropping some dude. It sucks to back down but sometimes it's better to avoid problems. |
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