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 My first cycle in 10 years...
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Cool Novice 
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I have been refining this for weeks... here is what my proposed cycle looks like now: (12 weeks) My goal here is to shed as much bodyfat as possible while retaining lean body mass with the least amount of side effects and NO HAIR LOSS (if possible, this is why I have stayed away from the androgens). Primobolan Depot-200mg/wk Winstrol Depot or V-50mg/eod Anavar-25mg/ed hGH-2iu/ed (5 days on 2 days off) Clenbuterol-100mcg/ed (1 week on 1 week off) T-3-(25mcg tabs) 11223344332211 (14 days on 21 days off) I have been contemplating using the Winstrol during the first six weeks then switching to the Anavar. Can anyone think of anything else? Will I need Clomid?(my research on Winstrol and its effects on endogenous testosterone production are not definitive) I appreciate all comments. PEACE [This message has been edited by THE KIDD (edited December 28, 2000).]    | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
hi kidd ..what is your body fat..i strongly disagree with the use..of t3 unless...you are in the final weeks of cuttig for a big show its not worth it...one you can seriously damage your thyroid...and two if your useing it to lose weight ... and think this is a quick fix ..this is not the way...there is a major rebound ..effect ..after your cycle even if you weining your self off of it as your are doing... also if you are heavy the effects will not be that significant.. strict diet 30 minuets of cardio twice a day....and the fat will melt... also remeber to shock your systen..once a week like a nice bowl of icecream..this will help to keep your metabolisim from slowing down good luck ...moresize | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 156 |
I've never had any experience with Primo or Winny, but from my research on this board, some members have experienced considerable amounts of hairloss on both drugs despite that they are not strong androgens.  | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
My bodyfat is in the range of 15% (keep the flames to a minimum,please). I have used androgens in the past as well as Deca and Anavar with no hair loss. However, I am older now and do not want to risk hair loss in any way. I have been researching the use of an anti-androgen such as Xandrox along with Nizoral and its effectiveness at the scalp. Does anyone have any experience with these products along with the aforementioned gear? Thanks again fellas. PEACE | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
BUMP for some information. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
Hey man I'd try to bring down your BF% before going on the AS. (no flame intended!) I think it would be a much better use of the AS if you started it at 10%, than at 15%. If you haven't used gear in 10 years, then I'm sure you can wait the time required to get down to 10%. Then you can look forward to single digit % while putting on some good size. Doing the following for at least a month, and you will notice some good results: Just my humble opinion! I think you'll be a lot happier with yourself if you shed some of excess first. Good luck GC ------------------ -Nietzsche | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
BUMP...Anybody else have some input? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1163 |
I will put in input but you may not like it. For the winny its a waste to even use at a high bodyfat as far as seeing results. Use it at the end when you are eblow 10% and you will be very pleased. Tha anavar is a good idea and I like primo as well at a high bodyfat. Though not cheap it helps when you are trying to lose bodyfat and increase muscle. My bodyfat went from 13 down to competition 2.5 % in about 5m months with an average of about 2.5 % per month. Primo allowed me to maintain muscle while losing 2% bodyfat a month. I would add in Equipose if you can find it at 300 ml a week upto 600 ml a week and as you taper off it switch to winny if the bodyfat is where it should be. I personaly won't touch T3 but some folks swear by it for losing fat. I would stick with clen on staggered dose and days as well as a therm agent over the counter ( hate muscle tech but love hydroxcut). Also cardio as you mentioned at 4-5 days a week 45 minutes at different speeds and elevations. try walking backwards (hold on) on a incline treadmill. Hope this helps and i thought BPP post was worth keeping (lol) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
flexed1, Thank you for the input. Were you thinking of running the EQ for six weeks then switching to Winstrol? Thanks again. Oh, by the way, if anyone else has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. PEACE | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1163 |
would run equipose for up to 8 weeks than switch or take time off and start again. I tend to use long cycles of different gear at moderate dose amounts | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
One last shameless self bump. PEACE | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
I told myself I would not do this...another shameless self BUMP | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 80 |
kidd, hold off alittle longer on the AS and lose more fat. with good diet/cardio you should be able to lose fat and very little muscle until you get down to a lower body fat. for me, the fat comes off 'easy' until i hit 8-9% bf, and i'm not a ectomorph. get the fat as low as possible, then hit the AS, you'll be much happier with the results.good luck | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
nizerol works pretty well, definatly use that but i'd stay away from the wintrol, supposedly people can lose hair quite easily with this, though it hasn't happened to me, and i've only included it as part of one cycle also, it looks like you're taking 25mg of anavar per week is this supposed to be per week? if not, don't even bother with it, it won't add anything significant, but at 25mg per day, that's a nice addition finally, i'd have to agree with the previous posts on the t3 don't pull out that stop until you REALLY need it you can get by with other stuff pretty easily before resorting to that |
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posted December 26, 2000 09:20 PM