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BIGBALLS

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posted December 26, 2000 01:33 PM

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first two mos I was using sustonon 750mg a week and 300mg eq weekly then for the last two mos 750 mg primotest and 350 mg winny,,, My joints are killing me and I feel like shit from all the eating and juicing!
what should i take to come off this cycle without screwing up my system??
should i run deca to keep size??


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Wanabebig

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posted December 26, 2000 01:55 PM

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go back to eq at 300 should affect natural test production. Take just the eq for 2 weeks then while maintaining eq enter clomid at 150 first week, 100 second, and 50 third then drop the eq.


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Wanabebig

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posted December 26, 2000 02:06 PM

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300 eq shouldn't affect test production sorry


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GetHuge

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posted December 26, 2000 02:10 PM

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With that long a cycle, you'll probably need HCG too.


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Demon

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posted December 26, 2000 04:15 PM

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You might want to change your name as well (BigBalls). I doubt it fits after 4 months.
Just kidding:>


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lawnsaver

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posted December 26, 2000 04:26 PM

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Ok, this is what I would do. Get some proviron and start 1 week after last shot at 50mg/day for 3 weeks ,this will keep estrogen down and keep libido up. 10 days after last shot, hit 100mg of clomid for 14 day and at the same time intake about 30 grams of glutimine a day to keep any catabolic conditions from occuring. For the last 2 weeks of clomid, take 50mg/day.

If you are worried about losing muscle, I would take either 300mg of primo a week or 200mg of eq. I wouldnt go any higher on the eq because it might effect your natural test level. Everybody is different so watch that dose. After that you should be ok.

Remember you can take proviron between cycle to keep size on, estrogen down, and libido up. I would do 3 weeks on 2 weeks off. I use insulin at 10ius a day and have no problems.


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BIGBALLS

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posted December 26, 2000 06:10 PM

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Thanks bros,
I will get some proviron and i have another bottle of eq so I should be cool!!
I have alot of acne right now should I still run the clomid???


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KODIAK99

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posted December 26, 2000 06:13 PM

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Yes run the clomid, go to the tanning bed and get some Desquam E for the acne, change your sheets and clothes often as the oil in your skin is high right now. . .that should cure the acne. Stay on Nolva or Arimidex when starting clomid therapy the HCG may not be a bad idea here either. . .proviron might help if you having trouble getting erections, certainly a possibility when comming off after that amount of time. Good Luck.

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BIGBALLS

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posted December 26, 2000 06:17 PM

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Thanks Kodiak, Sounds like good advice,,,,hey, one more question. how much clomid and how much nolvadex??
I will run 250 mg of eq and maybe a little deca?


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lawnsaver

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posted December 26, 2000 10:56 PM

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Read my post again, If you have the proviron you probably wont need the nolvadex. Proviron works like arimidex, but not nearly as strong. It doesnt block the estrogen like nolva, but stops it from being produced.

I wouldnt use hcg, the proviron will be your androgen(test like properties), but wont get your test going. It will be your anti-estrogen also. The clomid will help with the estrogen also, but mainly will get the natural test going strong by the 3rd week.

Take these steps and you will be fine


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Gatecrasher

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posted December 27, 2000 02:24 AM

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I had mad acne on my shoulders and back when I came off my baby sust cycle, but I did find a cure: Dumping a few capfuls of rubbing alcohol on the affected areas. The results were dramatic in a number of days.

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BIGBALLS

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posted December 27, 2000 11:14 PM

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Thanks for the help guys,,, I will give it a shot........I am sure the depression will set in when I lose the great gains I have seen


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