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 my cycle jan 7th
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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week 1 1 gram 600mg 500mg week 2 1 gram 600mg 500mg week 3 1 gram 600mg 500mg week 4 1 gram 600mg 500mg week 5 1 gram 600mg 500mg week 6 1 gram 600mg ----- week 7 1 gram 600mg ----- week 8 1 gram 600mg ----- week 9 1 gram 600mg ----- week 10 1 gram 600mg ----- week 11 1 gram 600mg ----- week 12 1 gram 600mg ----- 1 gram a week of primoteston 6:45am Wake up: 2 fried eggs w/2 slices of white bread, size up mass, prolab protein drink, glass of water. 8:45am Meal 2: prolab protein drink, water 11:00 am Meal 3: 2 Burger King Chicken sandwiches , Water 12:30: Meal 4: peanut butter and jelly sandwich , size up mass,prolab protien drink, water 3:00: Meal 5: peanut butter and jelly snadwich, size up mass, prolab protein drink,water 5:00 Meal 6: prolab protein drink, water 7:00 Meal 7 : whatever floats my boat 8:00 BED TIME! Thats at least and i be getting at least 9 hours a sleep a day i will be trianing mon - fri weekends off [This message has been edited by surehands2 (edited December 26, 2000).] [This message has been edited by surehands2 (edited December 27, 2000).]     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
any responses? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
My humble opinion is that you need more real food in your diet. I think shakes are great, but not as the basis of your diet. I can't give you a scientific reason why, but that's my experience and most of the people I train with. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
yeah i know bro but shakes rae easy for me i cant be eating that much real food i dont hav the time or the space in my stomach so instead of no calories i take teh shakes you know wha ti mean thanks | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
Well, see how it goes. If anything, it'll be an interesting experiment. At the very least, eat some bananas or apples or something. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
yes of course thats just my shakes those wont fill me up prolly never tried them yet but i mix them with water if i mixed them with milk i get all full and cant eat shit with the water based i can stil eat real food thats the beautiful of a shake | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Lookin good, u should grow like a weed.Remember to post those pics when u get them. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
moondog is right. you need more FOOD, 5'11 180 is THIN, SKINNY, KATE MOSS. If you are really gonna do a gram a week then eat like a man. Woof doen more then you have planned. The eatra cal, and fats will add size, while the juice helps keep it muscle not total fat. Since you are 180, you should reach 205 qucily, and still have some abs. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
any other comments | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
ok listen, for whatever reason you are doing the prop in the beginning, it isn't worth it at all. You are probably interested in gaining or kick starting your gains with the test so that the primoteston can kick in, correct? Well I got some news for ya buddy, it would be MUCH better if you simply took all that prop on the last 5 weeks and the first using dbol. This makes both ends of the cycle secure and interesting. In other words, the dbol will kick start your gains until your other shit kicks in. Then your cycle rolls nice and the last 5 weeks you switch to prop because you need a fast-acting drug to sort of "taper" 500mg prop per week is fine but use this for about the last 3-4 weeks of your cycle. You need to get all your other slow-acting shit out of your system before you hit the clomid. now, 1 gram of test is nice but not for 12 weeks. The most for a cycle should be 8-10 weeks, I suggest doing the 1g test for only 7 weeks, also including your eq, stop that at week 10, and the prop starting week 6-10 so for 5 weeks. you'll have enough test dont worry, its highly unlikely you will gain after week 7-8 of 1g test unless you up the dose to 2g, and nolva 20mg eod? I dont think so, you need arimidex for this cycle. If nolva, 60mg ED trust me, better no tits than tits  so it would be : week 1-7 1g primoteston [This message has been edited by skin88 (edited December 26, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
your diet looks low in good fats. supplement in some flax oil it will help with cholesterol also | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
skin novaldex works good for me if anything i up it to 20mg ED and if crazyness happens then 40mg ed in an absolute emergency but i should be find with 20mg EOD anyother suggetions skin im still gonna stick wthi my orginal cycle id ont like yours | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
i love responses | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
anyting think i could do week 1-6 50mg dbol/day then weeks 7-12 use the 500mg prop /week and leave eq and primoteston alone looking 40 + here so any suggestions | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Whats this size up mass stuff ur taking? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
http://www4.netrition.com/worldwide_size_up_page.html thats the size up mass im taking | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
I'm not sure that stuff has enough in the way of nutrients. I would recommend a strong multi-vitamin. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
which multivitamin | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
EAS's "Multiblend" looks pretty good on the Netrition website. I've used the GNC kind and I think that they are pretty good, as well. Be careful to note the serving size of these things. 240 capsules of one might be the same as 60 capsules of another. I'll be curious to see how your diet and cycle go. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
You definatley need some real fiber and other ruffage in that diet. I agree with other on the board that shakes should be used to supplement a good clean diet...not to form the foundation of one. And since this is clearly a bulking cycle....I'd be eating almost everything in site if I were you...within reason of course. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
i think skin 88 is right on with prop at the end and dbol in the beg. it worked great for me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
if i had money fo rdbol i mite try that | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
how about now since i added 2 fried eggs with toast in teh mouring and the peanut butter sandwiches hows that and dont forgeet teh turkey and cheese sandwiches how does it look that prolly brings it to over 5000 calories? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Where is the Tuna? It will add 1g fat, 0 carbs, 15g protein per can. It's not hard to eat 3-4 cans per day. I do. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1192 |
Here's some hints that sound like they will work for you: A FEW TRICKS ON GETTING THE FOOD AND NUTRIENTS IN! We have all been there, in the throws of a really good training cycle and a good pharmaceutical cycle, but the gains are not what you expect and the culprit is eating, or lack there of. Now I myself have gone through phases where I have eaten 12,000 calories a day and then times when I could barely get in 4000. Although supplements make things a lot easier, even these can be hard to consume if you are not particularly hungry. So I decided to take the time to share some of the methods I have used over the years and continue to use to get the food and protein in so I don't under-cut my progress. As you know by now I am a BIG believer in protein and lots of it. Let's face it though, it is a hell of a lot easier to get in large quantities of carbs than it is protein if you don't have a few tricks, so Protein drinks: Now I don't care if you are mixing them with water or with skim milk, the fact of the matter is, is when you blend or shake up a protein drink a huge amount of air gets mixed in with everything.The end result is that you wind up with a product that is almost twice as filling as it should be. Not realizing this, you drink it down and feel like you just had a lead ball dropped in Now since I take in around 800-900 grams of protein each day (please do not take this as a recommendation, it is what I do because I only take in 300 grams of carbs and I am also well over 300 pounds) what I do is first thing in the morning, mix 500 grams of Ultra-Pro 5 (you can use any protein powder you want and don't email me saying I am Bill Phillips because I mentioned my product, I mean who the hell else's protein do you think I am going to use) with 30 ounces of water Ground Beef: Now since I advocate low fat, I use 96% lean ground beef. The only problem is, is that it is as dry a piece of bread dropped in the middle of the desert. Very hard to get down because it is like eating sand. The way I get around this is to mix in some tomato sauce after it is cooked and then throw the whole mixture into the food processor. This mashes everything up into a Chicken: Again, chicken breasts are difficult to consume when they are just broiled. No taste, no juices equals another gag fest. The solution is to cook the chicken breast and then while they are hot drop them one at a time into a food process and chop them up into a fine chicken powder. You Oatmeal and eggs: Again eaten separately and this can be very filling so what I do is take 10-12 egg whites along with a cup of oatmeal and a banana and some cinnamon, mix it all together to form a batter. I then pour it into two pans making two good sized pancakes. Once cooked they can be taken with you and eaten very easily. The perfect protein carb meal that tastes awesome. Of course, everything else that needs to be consumed in terms of carbohydrates is very easy to do because you can always drink your carbs to get in the excess calories. Thought this might help. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
surehands, i dont know why you wouldn't like my cycle, maybe its because everyone has been doing it the long traditional way so you go ahead with that, but after about 6 weeks i believe, you won't gain anymore muscle, the body has used it all up, so unless you up the dosage to 2 grams, you won't see anything. what you are supposed to do, is get all the long acting test out of your system before you hit the clomid or else it will overlap, and you will still have that test in your system. so, you will have test in your body for about 15 weeks, which means if you wanted to get your natural test up quick, you would need to start clomid week 15, and through 18, not a good idea, i wouldnt cycle for close to 5 months. you need something fast-acting to finish the cycle. im gonna be using 700mg prop and 300mg fina the last 3 weeks of my cycle, im gonna be doing 1gram cyp for the first 6 weeks with 35mg dbol the first 6 weeks as well, 500mg eq for 9 weeks...but i stop the longer acting cyp at week 6. you will do whatever you want, but im showing you how to do it right bro. you need to end your long acting stuff 3 weeks before your last shot of something, for instance eq and prop. if you cycle for 12 weeks, cut the test at week 9 and continue the eq to week 12, throw in prop/fina or both starting week 9 through week 12, you can use dbol the first 4-6 weeks if you like. other than that, good luck. and yes, all these guys are right, you need FOOD, dont drink your meals, you need natural nutrients not some inferior mix of shit! this will detrimentally fuck your cycle up because you will notice these shakes really dont have shit in them, so you can take all the juice you want, but muscle doesnt grow from juice, it grows from food. your diet should be like this: here is mine: 9 am: 2 scoops CFM whey with only water from proteinfactory.com 10 am: 2 scoops caseinate protein with 1-2 cups oats and 1-2 cups milk and 2 bananas and or other fruit 12 pm: solid meal, this means cooked ground beef with noodles or chicken with rice or steak or tuna, you can mix all them around 3 pm: solid meal... 6 pm: solid meal... 9 pm: (post-workout): 2 scoops CFM whey + 80-100 grams maltodextrin or fruit (dates, raisins, bananas, etc.) 10 pm: solid meal 12 am: 2 scoops caseinate protein with water there you go, 8 meals, perfect. you don't need to count these calories, because the carbs are about 350-400g, and protein is 300-350g and fat is about 60-100g per day. thats enough to grow trust me, leave those size up shakes and get real protein from proteinfactory.com the CFM whey delivers fast absorbtion and caseinate is slow, notice where these are placed. [This message has been edited by skin88 (edited December 27, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
anyone else? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 177 |
Pitbull- awesome post...that helps alot. ------------------ |
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posted December 26, 2000 12:01 AM