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lawnsaver

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posted December 25, 2000 12:02 AM

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What is a good dose and for how long?

I heard to do 3 weeks on 2 weeks off??

I have heard good things, but not to many people use it.


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lawnsaver

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posted December 25, 2000 12:28 AM

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Come on, for X-mas, just a quick answer


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A.K.A.Kryptonite

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posted December 25, 2000 12:30 AM

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Go here and do search you should find your answer.

http://www.angelfire.com/pq/profiles/


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sbaset

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posted December 25, 2000 03:32 AM

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well, i plan on using my proviron towards the end of my sust/dbol cycle. I plan on using 50mg a day one week after my last shot of sust. I'll also be starting clomid therapy at 50mg a day. I'll use both drugs for two weeks. Not really sure if it's worth using proviron during the cycle..its pretty expensive and would probably be a waste. Just my opinion.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 25, 2000 06:04 AM

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Sbaset, I am sorry but you are wrong or need to find a new source. Proviron is probably the most cost effective and cheapest medicine that can be purchased. 20 tabs cost approximately $8.

Lawnsaver the probably one side of Proviron is long and or continous errections. This stops when usgae is stopped so if you are not too worried about this side then you can use for as long as you want and stop if you start suffering the side. Also if used for too long the effects of the drug can drop so you need to up dose.

3 wks on 2 off is good in my opinion, mkae sure you use it when you are coming off high aromatizing drugs such as dbol, anadrol, test. Also use it for 3 wks after your cycle stops. You can also try 3 wks on 10 days off which would be even better or 3 wks on 1 wk off. Only reason I come off is to minimize cost and give my body a break sop it doesnt get used to it.

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animal B

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posted December 25, 2000 10:07 AM

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I use it always if I have it...Ive experimented and for me 50mg/ day is fine..good to use with the strong androgens because it does prevent conversion from test to estro..does not interfer with gains


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Fener

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posted December 25, 2000 10:22 AM

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hey iron game, what do you use it for besides an antiestrogen?hard up? what do you want to obtain using it for 3 weeks on 2 off?just curiuos.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 25, 2000 10:38 AM

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Hey Fener,

I am currently using 21 days on 10 days off at 50mgs/day. Yes I do use mainly to harden up with but also use it pre cycle and post cycle. Proviron will prevent steroids from aromatizing and thus when you stop using you do not need to worry about the rebound effect of nolva (you still have the estrogen it just is prevented from occupying the recpetorsd cause Nolva has bound to them instead. When you stop the Nolva however the estro will then bind and be able to exert its effects. I am not prone to gyno in anyway, well I have found this out so far, when I go on a heavier cycle (1500mgs of test + others / wk then it may happen). So mainly use the proviron to harden up and keep water down, although I am not too worried about the water because I know it will go post cycle. Also use T3 in there though to increase protein synthesis(25mcgs/day) and keep water down.

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GetHuge

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posted December 25, 2000 10:45 AM

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Use at least 50mg, space out at 1/2 tab 4x daily.


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supreme

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posted December 25, 2000 11:58 AM

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Hey guys,

how hard is proviron on your hair, since it is an androgen?

I know proscar won't help, but what about minoxidil mixed with anti-androgens like flutamide & spironolactone


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jocko

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posted December 25, 2000 12:07 PM

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Almost everything you want to know is at: www.anabolicreview.com/prov.htm


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lawnsaver

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posted December 25, 2000 01:25 PM

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Thanks guys that all the info I need.

can somebody give me some experiences>


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Phreaky

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posted December 25, 2000 07:37 PM

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Posted some pics about a week ago on the board, but can't seem to find them now. They were from my mainly proviron cycle.


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lawnsaver

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posted December 25, 2000 08:58 PM

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Hey I saw them, which triggered my thoughts of using them. Please email me with how you took them.


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Phreaky

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posted December 25, 2000 10:54 PM

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I took 8 tabs a day..4 in the morning and 4 in the early evening. Didn't taper. That's all, pretty simple and quite effective!


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lawnsaver

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posted December 25, 2000 11:39 PM

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How long was the cycle and if I remeber you took low amounts of other things.


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Phreaky

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posted December 26, 2000 05:04 AM

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5 weeks with very small amount of Deca...probably around 200mg.


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media

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posted December 26, 2000 09:42 AM

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I've also heard it is a good move to use it 2 weeks prior the cycle, and some time throughout cycle.


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lawnsaver

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posted December 27, 2000 03:13 AM

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I think I will start adding it to each of my cycles... Thanks all... Happy Holidays


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 27, 2000 04:49 AM

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Here is a some info on Proviron that I used in a previous post:

It is a synthetic androgen as well as an estrogen antagonist which prevents anabolic androgenic steroids from aromatizing. As a result proviron prevents estrogen from occuring. Because aas are not aramotazing gyno & water retention are no longer an issue. People using proviron during cycle experience better lean growth and become harder because androgen levels remain high.
I don�t know about you, but over here Proviron is extremely cheap, about $10 for 20 x 25mg tabs. Because low doses are required, on an 8 wk cycle 25-50mgs/day. Proviron should be used 3-4 wks on 2 wks off and as well as at the end of the cycle for 3 wks. The reason for using it 3-4wks on is because after 4 wks (as found on one website) side effects are more likely to occur. Strategically place in cycles at times when perhaps you are coming off a high androgenic drug, the end of a bombs, dbol, test and so on.

Anyway hope this helps.

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KODIAK99

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posted December 27, 2000 10:09 AM

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Proviron is a synthetic, orally effective androgen which does not have any anabolic characteristics. Proviron is used in school medi-cine to case or cure disturbances caused by a deficiency of male sex hormones. Many athletes, for this reason, often use Proviron at the end of a steroid treatment in order to increase the reduced testoster-one production. This, however, is not a good idea since Proviron has no effect on the body's own testosterone production but-as men-tioned in the beginning-only reduces or completely eliminates the dysfunctions caused by the testosterone deficiency. These are, in par-ticular, impotence which is mostly caused by an androgen deficiency that can occur after the discontinuance of steroids, and infertility which manifests itself in a reduced sperm count and a reduced sperm quality. Proviron is therefore taken during a steroid administration or after discontinuing the use of the steroids, to eliminate a possible impotency or a reduced sexual interest. This, however, does not con-tribute to the maintenance of strength and muscle mass after the treatment. There are other better suited compounds for this (see HCG, Clomid, and Teslac). For this reason Proviron is unfortunately considered by many to be a useless and unnecessary compound.

You should be aware that Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids. Therefore gynecomastia and increased water retention are successfully blocked. Since Proviron strongly suppresses the forming of estrogens no re-bound effect occurs after discontinuation of use of the compound as is the case with, for example, Nolvadex where an aromatization of the steroids is not prevented. One can say that Nolvadex cures the problem of aromatization at its root while Nolvadex simply cures the symptoms. For this reason male athletes should prefer Proviron to Nolvadex. With Proviron the athlete obtains more muscle hard-ness since the androgen level is increased and the estrogen concen-tration remains low. This, in particular, is noted positively during the preparation for a competition when used in combination with a diet. Female athletes who naturally have a higher estrogen level of-ten supplement their steroid intake with Proviron resulting in increased muscle hardness. In the past it was common for body-builders to take a daily dose of one 25 mg tablet over several weeks, sometimes even months, in order to appear hard all year round. This was especially important for athletes' appearances at guest performances, seminars and photo sessions. Today Clenbuterol is usually taken over the entire year since possible virilization symp-toms cannot occur which is not yet the case with Proviron. Since Proviron is very effective male athletes usually need only 50-mg/ day which means that the athlete usually takes one 25 mg tablet in the morning and another 25 mg tablet in the evening. In some cases one 25 mg tablet per day is sufficient. When combining Proviron with Nolvadex (50 mg Proviron/day and 20 mg Nolvadex/day) this will lead to an almost complete suppression of estrogen. Even better results are achieved with 50 mg Proviron/ day and 500 - 1000 mg Teslac/day. Since Teslac is a very expensive compound (see Teslac) most athletes do not consider this com-bination.

The side effects of Proviron in men are low at a dosage of 24 tab--lets/day so that Proviron, taken for example in combination with a steroid cycle, can be used comparatively without risk over several weeks. Since Proviron is well-tolerated by the liver, liver dysfunc-tions do not occur in the given dosages. For athletes who are used to acting under the motto "more is better" the intake of Proviron could have a paradoxical effect. The most common side effect of Proviron is a distinct sexual overstimulation and in some cases continuous penis erection. Since this condition can be painful and lead to possible damages, a lower dosage or discontinu-ing the compound are the only sensible solutions. Female athletes should use Proviron with caution since possible androgenic side ef-fects cannot be excluded. Women who want to give Proviron a try should not take more than one 25 mg tablet per day. Higher dosages and periods of intake of more than four weeks considerably increase the risk of virilization symptoms. Female athletes who have no dif-ficulties with Proviron obtain good results with 25 mg Proviron/ day and 20 mg Nolvadex/day and, in combination with a diet, re-port an accelerated fat breakdown and continuously harder muscles.

Proviron is one of the very few steroid hormones which is still suf-ficiently available. The usual price is about $1 per tablet on the black market. All Proviron tablets have one thing in com-mon: they are all indented and on the back have the stamp AX, surrounded by a hexagon.

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lawnsaver

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posted December 27, 2000 11:40 AM

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Thanks again, I now have lots of info.


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