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Montecristo

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posted December 24, 2000 12:12 AM

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Anyone know what the strongest steroid known to man is?

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KODIAK99

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posted December 24, 2000 12:18 AM

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Strongest is a vague way of looking at it. . .the most androgenic, the most anabolic, the most sides, the most bloat, the most growth, the most maintainable muscle gain, I would say Anadrol is top on most of these lists or damn near it, just remember one of the most toxic. . .Test is Besta, but GH and insulin is better if you can afford it.

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Montecristo

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posted December 24, 2000 12:21 AM

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Most growth/bulk!

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MeanOne

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posted December 24, 2000 12:23 AM

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Well, everyone will react different to different types of drugs due to things like enzymatic differences, receptor population, receptor shape and affinity, and metabolism. Most people gain the most off of Anadrol. Some people however turn into ticks on it (they hold a lot of water), but there are exceptions, such as myself and a few others.

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E2

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posted December 24, 2000 12:29 AM

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Yes while most people will gain a lot of anadrol, i'm sure that we all know that typically those gains are temporary unless stacked with lots of other gear.

Personally, my favorite is TRENBOLONE!

Hands down, stacks on mass, strength up through the roof, and tight tight tigh granite.

Well perhaps suspension deserves an honorable mention as well.

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Montecristo

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posted December 24, 2000 12:33 AM

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How about a trembolone/anadrol stack? I currently have some anadrol in my possesion.


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MeanOne

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The topic of short cycling is rarely discussed on this board, which I think is a shame. If you are an individual who gains mostly LBM from Anadrol, and you keep your cycles under 13 days, you can most certainly keep a large majority of your gains. One of my clients uses 200mgs of Anadrol/day, and 300mgs of Propinate Every Other day. (13 days on the anadrol, 9 days on the propinate.) He has had great success in keeping gains. He has actually moved up 42lbs in LBM over the past 8 months using this type of cycling. We originally used Dbol, but he wasn't loosing much of his gains, so we switched to a drug that may promote more dramatic weight gains. If you are an individual whom gains LBM as well as a lot of water from Anadrol, if you keep it short, and drink a lot of water while on (I'm talking a couple gallons a day), you will probably be able to retain 40-50% of the gains made from the drug, because your system is not far depressed. In fact, it's actually slightly upregulated in a couple ways. 40-50% may not sound like a lot, but remember how much weight you do gain off anadrol.

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MarkM

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posted December 24, 2000 12:51 AM

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I gotta go with TRENBOLONE also. Really kicks ass when stacked with Dbol/test


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Recoome

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posted December 24, 2000 01:11 AM

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Yeah, Finaplix is like 3-4 times more anabolic than testosterone. I think it builds more actual muscle proteins than any other steroid.


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youngdeltman

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posted December 24, 2000 01:19 AM

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Actually Cheque Drops are the most powerful steroid pound for pound.


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RRECEIVER

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posted December 24, 2000 01:29 AM

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fina


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jersey boy

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posted December 24, 2000 01:29 AM

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anadrol


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BarbarianHorde

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posted December 24, 2000 03:14 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by youngdeltman:
Actually Cheque Drops are the most powerful steroid pound for pound.

yeah, and they're also the best for killing yourself. if you can find them.


i go with anadrol.

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MR. BMJ

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posted December 24, 2000 03:29 AM

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youngdeltman, that is exactly what I was going to say. Cheque drops is very, very powerful. Although probably impossible, If one were to take this at the same dosage as any other drug, it would be interesting to see the type of muscle gains that would occur. And yes, I know the side effect of this drug, and would probably never use it because of them. It would be interesting if we could find some kind of anti-progesterone agent (I know RU-486 could be used for this but it is a little hard to come by) and use these types of drugs. But then again, taking away these characteristics may inhibit some of the drugs effectiveness, am I right?

Other than this, I will agree with E2 and say Tren is the most powerful drug I have used. Then probably test and the drol next.
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Narcissist

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posted December 24, 2000 04:13 AM

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Oxymetholone(anadrol-50)

Plain & simple: Take A-bombs and you'll blow up.


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fourhundred

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posted December 24, 2000 04:41 AM

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anapolon
halotestin
parabolan


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ThinkLarge

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posted December 24, 2000 04:45 AM

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Anavar. I think this is the one of the best because it has almost no potential of aromatizing and makes you solid.


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the truth

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posted December 24, 2000 05:55 AM

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The strongest? Tren, hands down. Unfortunately, I don't react that well to it, or I would use it all the time.

Mean One, I like the short cycle you described. I've played with short cycles and liked them, but have never incorporated A-50 into one. I don't plan on coming off anytime soon, but the A-50/prop short cycle is something I'll definitely keep in mind. for future reference.


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animal B

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posted December 24, 2000 08:47 AM

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have to try fina
6 weeks out of a show how would
fina
primo
halo do


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waterboy

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posted December 24, 2000 12:33 PM

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reforvit-b by far that shit kicks ass its the shit.... "not"!!!!!!!!!


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3ccEOD

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posted December 24, 2000 01:26 PM

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No question about it ANADROL-50 is by far the strongest.
What other AS can enlarge your prostate,gyno,jaundice,male pattern baldness,high blood pressure,acne and raise liver enzymes to double normal in just one cycle GOD I love this stuff!!!!!!!
Then again I probably shouldn't have taken three a day for three months............


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TEXASAMM

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posted December 24, 2000 01:44 PM

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I love ANADROL.

But if I was to choose to do only one drug for a cycle It would be TESTOSTERONE and a lot of it!


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GAAV KOSH

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posted December 24, 2000 02:09 PM

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About those cheque drops, I thought cheque drops were purely androgenic and is used for aggression.


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THE BOUNCER

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posted December 24, 2000 04:44 PM

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I would have to say the most potent mg for mg is winstrol. But the strongest for bulking would have to be either a-bombs or test suspension.


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MrTeenNewOrleans

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posted December 24, 2000 05:28 PM

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Anadrol 50 by FAR
and as far those Cheque Drops, well someone needs to go research thier effects


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big4rt

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posted December 24, 2000 06:30 PM

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A-BOMBS, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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plifter

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posted December 24, 2000 06:46 PM

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Good old fashioned dianabol does it for me!


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BarbarianHorde

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quote:
Originally posted by GAAV KOSH:
About those cheque drops, I thought cheque drops were purely androgenic and is used for aggression.

i don't think they're JUST androgenic, but honestly i don't fully know. sure as shit are strong though! isn't a standard 'dose' something like 100-150mcg??

apparently they are EXCELLENT for increasing aggression. i've heard stories of fighters slipping a few drops under the tongue before going out to kick some ass.

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BigJay81

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posted December 24, 2000 11:54 PM

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YOUR ALL WRONG ITS THIS "GRAM FOR GRAM"
METHYLTRIENOLONE

IT IS 50 TIMES STRONGER ANDROGENIC THAN METHYLTESTOSTERONE

SO THEIR THATS ALL THAT HAS TO BE SAID END OF DISSCUSSION

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youngdeltman

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Wow BigJay, that was an extreemly informative piece of information. Ummm, you seem so adimant that this is right "end of discussion, game over" a little more info is required...

So I think there's more to be said....


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MILLIGRAM PER MILIGRAM NO STEROID IS FREE TO ROME AROUND YOUR BLOOD THIS MEANS THAT IT HAS THE BEST CHANCE TO REACH MORE RECEPTORS THAN ANY OTHER STEROID ON THE MARKET.
HANDS DOWN STRONGEST. I KNOW THIS INFO BECAUSE I HAD A VERY LOOOOOOONG DISSCUSION WITH A PERSON WHO WE HAVE ALL READ ABOUT AND I WOULDN'T GIVE IN THAT I THOUGHT "NANDROLONE" IS THE MOST POTENT THEN HE WHIPS OUT ABOUT 30 SOME PAGES ON THIS SUBJECT AND CONTINUES TO SITE INFORMATION... I GOT DRILLED BY THIS GUY....BUT IT WAS FUNNY TO WATCH US BOTH ARGUE ABOUT IT..

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posted December 25, 2000 09:11 PM

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big jay is correct


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posted December 25, 2000 09:13 PM

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SORRY about the caps fellas.


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BIGJAY is correct, methyltrienolone is active at MICROgram quantities. It binds very tightly to the AR and also the GR. If I remember correctly Roussel-Uclaf discontinued the studies on this drug due to toxicity problems.

The runner-up is mibolerone, which is also active at microgram quantities and is a potent androgen and has progestin qualities.

Note: this is purely in terms of pharmacological efficacy, not in subjective aspects such as mass production, water retention, hardness, etc.


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Their is some of the info I was trying to find...
But very harsh on the liver I think it was like taking 50some A-bombs at once. Not sure exactly but it was outrageus


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bigjay you can use my lines like gameover on a great post like the one you just had.or thats the bottom line.
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!
P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!


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People, the strongest steroid out there is
Cheque Drops. It is so potent that the recommended dosage is measured in micrograms.
If you compare it to 50mg of Anadrol(1 pill), 50mg of Cheque drops would Jack you up so bad you'd feel like ripping your head off. So mg for mg, Cheque Drops takes the cake.

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I think the strongest is andro-by EAS> I think steroids are a bunch of horse shit- you fucking junkies i hate you all.

Anyone who knows me will get a kick out of that. (Just Kidding) I love steroids!!!!!!

I think that mg for mg d- bol might be the strongest


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They say Winny is the strongest. That's why it was originally made in 2mg tabs. If it had any androgenic properties, you would blow up 25lb. everytime you took a cycle. Unfortunately its almost entirely anabolic which doesn't lead to much weight gain.

Test is Best
but strongest......

Parabolan, 500/500 anabolic to androgenic ratio

which means its 5 times stronger than test.


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Man Child is right. Winny is by far the strongest. Though you get (and lose) a lot of gains from A bombs.

the number one stack for cutting and bulking in my opinion is Susp and Winny V One cc each inject ED.


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Why is Winny the strongest?
I used Winny and it did nothing for me. Even if i only used 50 mr EOD and it was the strongest, results should have been better.
But maybe i misunderstand what you guys mean with the strongest.

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Jeff its like what I posted on the 290lb-er post. If you weigh a lot like I do it will take about 6-8 weeks at 400+ mgs. per week to get excellent results. If you weigh a 150lb. than 50mg EOD will do you just fine. Most people don't convert dosages to bodyweight, but you definitely should. Will a 300lb guy grow with 250mg of Sus per week? Yes, but not as well as a 150lb. guy on 250mg of Sus per week.


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BigJay81

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You people are using "Fuzzy Math"
And you are wrong!


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Montecristo

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Were to able to arrive at a decision here???

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yes the one i mentioned is the strongest they are "wrong"


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I can only comment on my experience, and have tried most everything. My vote goes for Anadrol for orals and the mother of all (injectables), that every steroid tries to imitate, test suspension. No one else chose this. Hmmmmm. It may not be the most pleasant of injectables but the results are quick and astounding. Side effects for both suck.

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