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 whats point of D-bol once you stop you lose gains
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| Author | Topic: whats point of D-bol once you stop you lose gains | ||
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Cool Novice 
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just trying to get a response. From what everyone is saying is that it is hard to retain gains made on d-bol    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 834 |
stack foo, it's the way. dbol is awesome. ------------------  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 293 |
Stack with some test and deca after you finish the cycle try to get some clomid and some gonatropin to get your natural test going | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 60 |
yes dbol by itself its hard to keep the gains the best thing would be to stack it w/Winny,primo,proviron, and then taper off with h.c.g. and clomid. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 48 |
It�s reality Bro! Dbol gains are Easy come, Easy go!! Lots of water for sure, and very quick Axis inhibition, so clomid for sure! I would be recommending HCG stuff, but thank to the buddies (Huck and kodiak) I know clomid is better. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 192 |
Its great way to kick off a cycle. The bloat not only produces strength but it also helps stretch the muscle fascia to make later growth easier. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 38 |
Using it for the first 4 to 5 weeks helps get some fast gains while your sust or whatever test you are using has time to get going into your system. It seem like it takes about 3 weeks before i see anything on test, so if i use the d-bol i see results by the 4th day.....After the 4th of 5th week your test is kicking in real good so most get off the d-bol and let the test do the talking...Levi | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 202 |
My first cycle was dbol only 50mg/day for 6 weeks,gain 23lb.,kept 15,I used Clomid.I love dbol! Water!In my second cycle I'm running dbol for first 6 weeks,it's week 4 right now,I'm taking 10mg Nolvadex/day(just got signs of gyno comming) and Clomid 50mg eod and practically no water retention,also I take 1g of Sust and 400mg/w EQ.And no water! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 346 |
I DID A DBOL ONLY CYCLE ONCE AND NEVER LOST A POUND ONCE I CAME OFF. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 643 |
I'm beginning the 5th week of my D-Bol/Deca cycle. This is my first cycle and I was scared shitless to do A/S because of all the negative stuff I heard about them. My entire life, I've been cursed with a fast metabolism and could never gain any weight. After 4 weeks, I've gone from 160 to 172, a gain of 12 pounds and I'm only 1/2 way through the cycle. Although the fear of losing my gains is always in the back of my mind, it's my understanding that provided I keep up the intensity of my weight training and keep on improving my eating/nutritional habits, I should keep much of my gains. I hope I'm doing things right. I'm already thinking about a second cycle to begin in March. I'm thinking about doing Deca and D-bol again but throwing in some test. If anyone wants to give me their two cents on this, I'm listening. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5144 |
There are two great reasons to use d-bol even if it is not used in a stack. 1) It speeds up protein synthesis so you can gain muscle during the cycle and deposit the growth into your muscle memory. With the muscle memory from the d-bol, it will be easier to get to a certain size faster if you do it naturally or with gear. 2) The water retention helps with a boost in strength. This allows for more tearing of the existing muscle so more protein syntheses (therefore more growth). With more growth, the potential muscle size (in your muscle memory is expanded). So if you do a d-bol only cycle and gain 18 and only keep 8 (going from 170-188 then back down to 178). You will be able to get to 188 much faster than before and go from there. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
I can't beleive nobody mentioned it's effects on ATP synthesis... "CHIRP CHIRP" --==MeanOne==-- ------------------ Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic" | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 263 |
Well meanone, fill us in please. Im curious cuz im usin it at 25mg/day in my upcoming first cycle. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
No, I think I'll leave this for E2 and Ranger. "Chirp Chirp" --==MeanOne==-- ------------------ Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic" | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1911 |
I agree with 2Thick here, its very possible to make solid strength and lean muscle gains on dbol alone, and keep the majority of them. I could make a perfect example of my bro, Thor72, who posts here, and just ran a dbol only cycle for his first time out. I hope he sees this. You use it right, with the right "accessory" drugs, and you can gain and keep gains. WCP ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
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dbol with ganabol is a winning combo and you will keep all 2 of my favorite cycles are ref/ganabol and now anadrol/ara/winstrol Im lucky I dont retain water..always looked ripped..in the last fotos I sent 2 weeks ago I was 160 after the show started anadrol ara winstrol and now 173..will post that photo,,2 week difference | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 611 |
I like using a trailer of winny. It helps cutting and keeps the gains, | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
Animal, an I reading that correctly Winstrol AND Anadrol in the same cycle? You are aware that Winstol is 17aa, and that injectig it only cuases it to skip one pass through the liver, correct? Hopefully they are not used at the same time... "Chirp Chirp" MeanOne ------------------ Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic" | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 616 |
I don't normally bump threads, but this one has had some interesting posts, so I'm going to do it this one time. Bjaarki | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1795 |
Meanone..talk to me, I am aware of what your saying but I guess am missing the point...Using winsrol with anadrol I thought would balance out the androgenic-anabolic ratios and also help prevent the progesteronic gyno associated with anadrol...if Im off base, Im all ears brother | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 614 |
Excellent info 2Thick. delts | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 90 |
Using your logic....... Why eat? you are just going to be hungry again? Why Breathe ? you are just going to have to do it again? Or why put gas in your car? Its just going to disappear. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1291 |
Well, I LOVE dbol, used it in my first cycle stacked with eq and noticed a size and strength difference after only 2 DAYS!! I gained about 35 pounds max on that cycle and kept about 30-ish of them...good stuff, been around way longer than I have, so I've read...classics don't die! MEEEEERY X-MAS, TOO ALL, AND TO ALL, GOOD CYCLES!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 68 |
I'm thinking about doing a D-bol cycle. 25mg day first 3 weeks then 20 for the next 2. What would be good to stack with this? I was thinking sustanon or primo? Also if I use the sust should i also throw in some eq at the end to help me retain gains(this will only be my second cycle) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
Animal, while your logic is sound, I'm more concerned about your liver. Seriously. It has been proven that only 40mgs of a 17aa steriod compound are required to elevate liver enzyme levels. Elevated liver enzymes is a sign of possible damage or stress to the liver. Just one A50 tab contains 50mgs of this type of compound. Most people use 2-3/day, then if you combine that with the average wintrol dosage of 50mgs EOD, your body is processing anywhere from 850mgs to 1200mgs of 17aa steriod a week! You could swallow jars of milk thistle a day and that still wouldn't help enough. There are exceptions however. Some of us can use mega doses of 17aa compounds, but the only way of knowing whether you can handle them or not is with blood work. Basicly, I was simply concerned about your liver, not your hormone ratio's. If your worried about the possible estrogenic side effects of the anadrol, please, use either clomid if it's a light case or Nolavdex if it is bad. Primobolan/Eq would not be a bad replacement. "Chirp Chirp" --==MeanOne==-- ------------------ Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic" | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1291 |
MeanOne, I agree about the 17aa stuff, but CLOMID/NOLVADEX will do NOTHING for the anadrol (PROGESTERONE, NOT ESTROGEN) related side-effects... animal b, I think it was HUCK that wrote about taking winny for a week or so before the cycle starts to pre-occupy those receptors and protect you from gyno, etc. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
2Thick, how much are you talking about using | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5144 |
A normal cycle of 6-8 weeks with the d-bol. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 178 |
Whoops...missed the "Prog" part of his post. My mistake. Either way, I wouldn't stack the two. -MO |
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posted December 23, 2000 01:44 AM