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newt

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posted December 23, 2000 01:31 AM

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We're always asking for advice on cycles. I was just curious what gear and dosages do you guys use when your on cycle?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 23, 2000 01:52 AM

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My all time favorite mass builder...
*****SUSTANON***EQUIPOISE***DIANABOL***CLOMID
Week-1)1Gram****************40mgs/day********
Week-2)1Gram****************40mgs/day********
Week-3)1Gram****************40mgs/day********
Week-4)1Gram****************40mgs/day********
Week-5)1Gram*****500mgs*****40mgs/day********
Week-6)1Gram*****500mgs*****30mgs/day********
Week-7)1Gram*****500mgs**********************
Week-8)500mgs****500mgs**********************
Week-9)**********500mgs**********************
Week-10)*********500mgs**********************
Week-11)*********500mgs**********************
Week-12)*********300mgs**********************
Week-13)***************************100mgs/day
Week-14)***************************50mgs/day
Week-15)***************************50mgs/EOD

*Arimidex is ran at 1/2 tab daily for the first ten weeks.

Very simple,yet works very well,time and time again.It gives a synergistic combination of type-I and type-II drugs for complete growth through multiple pathways.


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newt

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posted December 23, 2000 01:58 AM

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Yo HUCK, pretty heavy but also simple. Any use for straight test. Also how long did it take for you have to go to those doses?


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showtime2000

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posted December 23, 2000 01:58 AM

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Huck-

what kind of gains do you get off of a cycle like that. both total and retained

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Zinc

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posted December 23, 2000 01:59 AM

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If adding Oxandrolone and/or Winny?
How?...Would it be better? or things become too complicated..I don�t like equipoise, what about switching to deca?.
Sorry if too many questions.


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newt

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posted December 23, 2000 02:06 AM

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my guess is HUCKs gonna say go ahead and substitute the deca for the eq if you don't like the eq. But I'm curious if he would add the winstrol or oxadrolone or suggest a seperate cutting cycle.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 23, 2000 02:07 AM

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newt-I've been cycling on and off for around 12 years now...
Showtime-It nets me between 25-30 pounds,and I'll usually keep 15-20 or so...
Zinc-Winstrol would be an okay choice toward the end with the eq,as eq is a type-I steroid(strong binding affinity to the androgen receptor)and winstrol is a type-II steroid(poor binding at the A/R but effective in other mechanisms).You would certainly want to use a healthy amount of milk-thistle if you added in the winstrol,as it would be quite an extended use of alkylated products...


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newt

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posted December 23, 2000 02:19 AM

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HUCK, I never really got to confirm if its you I've been e-mailing. Thanks

Do you have any use for test cyp in your cycles?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 23, 2000 02:22 AM

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Yes it's me.I've used cyp a few times,but I prefer sust...


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lawnsaver

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posted December 23, 2000 02:33 AM

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Huck do you like the aratest in the 10cc bottles. I used testoviron which was the same ingrediants. Do they compare?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 23, 2000 02:36 AM

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Yes,they are both good products.I'd give the slight advantage to the ara-test...


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PowerLifter45

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posted December 23, 2000 11:09 AM

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Hell yeah huck, in my opinion ara-test is one of the best tests around


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KODIAK99

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posted December 23, 2000 06:04 PM

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Next Cycle: (Thanks Ranger)
.
.First off I�ll explain my thoughts on the usage of a few things in this cycle, and why I put them there. This cycle is a guide for you, and feel free to change things anyway you wish:

� I added the Prop. To this cycle simply because it adds to the effect of Sus 250, and hence the injection every 3 days. This in itself will keep the Prop. Levels at a constant, and combined with the dbol will blast the cycle from the start.
� I encourage you to take 20mg�s of Nolvadex every other day for the entire cycle as well as Clomid at 50mg�s every other day. Of course you will alternate the two. I did this because adding Nolvadex and Clomid at EOD will reduce the estrogenic side effects, such as water retention, and block gyno from occuring as well.
� EQ should be run the entire cycle as it will not aromatize readily, and will help maintain gains.I saved the Primo, and other stuff for the next cycle, or for cutting�.This should do for right now.
� I am starting the dbol at a high dosage(I take between 10 and 12 a day Bro), for the fact that the Nolva and Clomid are already in place, and combined with the extra Prop. Will get results very fast until the other test ester�s and EQ kick in.

WEEK# SUS 250 PROP. DBOL EQ

1 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

2 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

3 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

4 1000mg�s 75mg�s 35mg�s 400mg�s

5 750mg�s 75mg�s 30mg�s 400mg�s

6 750mg�s 75mg�s 30mg�s 300mg�s

7 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

8 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

9 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

Ensure that you intake around 3200 to 4500 calories a day, plus 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. Drinking water is a must, consume all you can. Should your kidneys begin to ache, start drinking 1 gallon of pure cranberry juice per day until symptoms subside.

I like taking Vit. B-6 on cycles such as this to ensure I get all the protein I can in my system, but DO NOT take in too much B-6, it would then do more harm than good.

Also ensure you are taking Milk Thistle to ensure good liver functions, this along with the water should do the trick

Injections should be every three days, and you can mix the different oil based steroids in one syringe to inject. This will cut down on the injections, and injection sites. DO NOT be alarmed if the injection site becomes sore, this is due to the added Prop. And it has some of the same qualities as a bee sting.

Clomid at end of cycle should be as follows:

� 1 week after last injection, Clomid at 50 mg�s everyday for 2 weeks
� Then go with Clomid at 50 mg�s every other day for 2 more weeks.


This cycle may seem high and excessive in dosages, but it is not. You know your body best of all, so feel free to change it as you wish. 1 gram of sus 250 with me, and the only sides I get is oily skin. So keep a lot of alch. Pads handy to wipe face, chest, and back.

For your hair(I never have this prob.) you can buy Nizoral shampoo most anywhere. Use it regulary.

Macro was a big proponnet of adding extra Prop. On Sus 250 cycles, I tried it once�LOVED IT!!!

This cycle has the potential of netting you 25 to 40 pounds�most of which depends on you diet, training, and sleep�as for sleep, Melatonin works well for me�

Written by THE RANGER, soon to be started by ME!!!!!!

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If you are going to be a bear. . .be a big fucking bear!!!!!


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WCP

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posted December 24, 2000 02:40 AM

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Hey,

I wanna play too...this is my bulking cycle this winter after my cuff heals.

Aratest******Anadrol*****EQ******Proviron
1)1gram*********100mg/day************50mg/day
2)1gram*********150mg/day************50mg/day
3)1gram*********100mg/day************50mg/day
4)1gram******************************50mg/day
5)1gram********************600mg*****50mg/day
6)750mg********************600mg*****50mg/day
7)500mg********************600mg*****50mg/day
8)250mg********************500mg*****50mg/day
9)*************************500mg*****50mg/day
10)************************400mg*****50mg/day
11)************************400mg*****50mg/day
12)************************300mg*****50mg/day
13)******************************************
Clomid
14)******************************************
15)100mg/day
16)100mg/day
17)50mg/day

Of course I use clomid eod while on cycle, and I keep nolva here.

I will cut using tren/winstrol-V/clen/T3.

I will also use winstrol eod at 50mg while on the anadrol.

Peace,
WCP

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adrenaline and pheromone
crowning glory of creation
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samiam

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posted December 24, 2000 11:43 AM

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Huck and WCP, Why do you guys prefer to wait until week 5 to start the EQ. I'm curious because I am going to do a similar cycle.

I was thinking:

Week***Sust or Omna*****EQ*****Dbol
1**********500*********300******6
2**********500*********300******5
3**********500*********300******5
4**********500*********300******4
5**********500*********300
6**********500*********300
7**********500*********300
8**********500*********300

Clomid EOD throughout and 100 ed for 2 weeks after cycle...50ed 3rd week.

Thinking about extending the EQ 10 weeks. What do you think?

SUST or OMNA?
Ganabol or Ultragan?
Does it really matter?


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lawnsaver

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posted December 24, 2000 01:41 PM

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Extend the eq, the longer you use it the better your results. You dont need to taper the d-bol.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 24, 2000 02:14 PM

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Samiam-The reason for starting the eq later in the cycle is to carry it well past the sust.The reason for doing this is that eq will impart much less water retention than the sust,so when you're eliminating the water weight from the sust,the eq will be making up the differnce by adding,lean,water-free,high quality mass.Hence,the perception of maintaining your gains and hardening up.Ultragan would be my first choice due to less volumeous injections,either sust or omna's are good,really not any difference there...


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samiam

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posted December 25, 2000 01:57 AM

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Thanks, Huck. Merry Christmas.


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