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 In need of some expertise on first cycle
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| Author | Topic: In need of some expertise on first cycle | ||
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Cool Novice 
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specs: Im 21 6'4" 230#. Bench 320, squat 450. bf 11%. 16.25 arm, 25 thigh, 17 calf. Idea on first cycle anti side supp: questions: sorry for the overload of info but I want to do this right. Any help greatly appreciated    | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
sorry posted wrong im going to stop sust at 6 and drop to 200 decca for 7 and8 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
9, 10 , 11 are clomid doses | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
come on guys I know your tired off newbie questions but help me out here | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 108 |
Yo bro, your stats look prety good already. a lot of the answers to your questions have to do with your diet and training. I'd guess with optimal training and a high intake diet you could expect 15-20lbs at the end of cycle and and probally will lose some of that. This being your first cycle its anyones guess how your body will react in regards to gains and side for that matter. Deca is typicaly low sides and sus low water retention but only your bod will tell how severe the sides will be. Consider some winstrol to help solidify tour gains. Good luck, eat your ass off and lift heavy. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 167 |
Number one problem with that stack is the Chrysin. It is relatively expensive and useless in my opinion. Use 1/4mg of Arimidex every 3 days. For 11 weeks, that equates to about 7mg total Arimidex(rounded off). That's about $60. I'll bet that's cheaper than the Chrysin, and also much more effective. If arimidex is not available use 10-20mg Novaldex daily.  | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 46 |
never thought of using arimidex that way fonz, thnx. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1456 |
I don't get the need for and anti-e at such low dosages, unless youare prone ot gyno..take clomid 50 mg EOD throught your cycle, keep nolva on hand just in case, if youare going to use a anti-e use armidex, it won't curb your gains are much as nolva.. big-guy | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 108 |
BigGuy why do you suggest running the clomid all the way through the cycle as opposed to at the end? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 167 |
Big_Guy, Clomid is a relatively mild estrogen blocker. Probably not even a quarter as good as arimidex or nolvadex. Having said that, it would be absolutely pointless to take the Clomid during the cycle because endogeneous testosterone levels are being suppressed by the exogeneous test. Clomid will do nothing to counter-act this! Clomid should be taken only post-cycle when there is no exogeneous test present. In this case Clomid will help endogeneous test production go back up. godspeed | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
gotta bump | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
bump | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 4937 |
Your cycle looks okay.Why not throw in some d-bol for the first five weeks to jump start things,and get some extra non-A/R activity to create synergy? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
bump | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
bump | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 108 |
Yo bro quit bumping your own, be patient! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
can you blame me for being excited | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 576 |
My best advice: Run the sust 500 for 8 weeks, no taper. ghans | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 188 |
Wanabebig... No need to taper the Sust. Run it at 500mg for 8 weeks. Clomid post cycle. Lot's of food lot's of water. Happy growing Mike ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 1 |
This wannabebig guy sounds like a total fag if you ask me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
Filbert-> ??????????????????????? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 735 |
I agree. #1 Stop self bumping. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 99 |
Deca and propecia are a no-no!!! |
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posted December 23, 2000 12:02 AM