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 My friend is not gaining on his first cycle
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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My buddy is in his 8th week of his first cycle. When he first told me he was juicing I didn't believe him. He was always so proud of being natural. He has awesome genetics. 6'1", 230, 6% BF year round. He wins every contest he enters. He has so many training certifications I can't count them. He even owns his own supplement company. Anytime I have a question about training I ask him. Anyway, about a week ago he tells me he's in his 8th week of his Test. Eth. and Deca cycle. He says he's not gaining anything. Just 8 lbs. the first week or two and that's it. First I thought the gear was probably bunk and I told him he should've come to me first. But his gear was prescribed to him by his doc. No chance of being fake. He tells me he's up to 800mg test and 400 deca. Over the course of the next few days I found out he had been taking 60mg of Nolva a day, and he said he was eating about the same amount of food as before his cycle, which is still alot, but I told him he needed more calories than before. His protein is fine. Well over 300 grams of quality protein a day. I'm thinking these are the two main reasons he is not gaining (Nolva and calories) but I'd like to know what you think. Thanks     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
well check the hoew he workouts but it might be too much nov..TELL HIM TO EAT MORE!!!!but take it easy..lol. AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!!! P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 108 |
I don't know what it might be, but I'd like to kow how he got a doc to prescribe the stuff for him. Any suggestions? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 601 |
Aint enough gear or is the wrong type. Never seen anyone who never really gained on a hot cycle. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 446 |
one of 2 things... it's either fake, or most likely he's not consuming enought calories... this is one of the main reasons people dont gain as well as they think they should of... in my opinion..... aky ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
He trains harder than anyone I know. He rests well...He does everything exactly the way you should. BTW, he knows alot of people and his doc happens to be a steriod doc. I mean he does this for others. I don't even want to tell you what he's paying, though....You'd cry! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 516 |
first of all, some people do NOT gain ANY water like myself"could be him" which would be caused by the test. how is the Bodyfat? lost any? he can be gaining (L)ean(B)ody(Mass.. also, nov hinders gains i have noticed by others... just some posabilities | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1492 |
He won every contest he was in, being a natural and now when on roids he cannot gain? Sory Samiam, but he was on roids already and now the gains stop. Just my thought. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 610 |
Im with Jeff, if hes 230 at 6% and cleans house in all the contests then hes been on gear already and needs more to keep making gains. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 885 |
An 8lb gain with 60mgs/day of Nolva is actually pretty good..60mgs/day of Nolva=zero water retention and less gains. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 601 |
why so much nolva ? was he taking that much because of water problem or something, or because the doc said that? one more thing, take a look at the gear your self so see if it is really real. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
Well, an easy way to tell if it is fake, how is his strength doing?? Some people believe it or not do not gain hardly a thing off of steroids, although this is extremely rare, it does happen... I highly doubt that this is the cause though... Sounds like he is eating enough to make some decent gains... Hmmm, if you want, I can get you in contact with a pro bbuilder who can go into this in great detail... email me at [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 660 |
quote: Right on the damn head with that one Krusher... Theres your answer right there. Plus a possible low caloric intake. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5114 |
He must not be too bright if he started a high dosage cycle and didn't know about increasing calories. Also, 60mg of Nolva is overkill. There is no need for more than 30mg of nolva per day and that is if you are really prone to gyno or high blood pressure. If the gear is legit then he must not respond well to gear. That is tuff nuts for him. The protein should have been more than enough to get the most out of the Deca so he is either lying about being natural (like Jeff said) or he doesn't gain on gear. Either way he deserves what he gets for doing the wrong cycle without researching it first. He is the type of guy that gives steroids a bad name. |
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posted December 22, 2000 07:05 PM