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 everyone who replied to the survey about aspirating... why? what happens? read me
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 557 |
ok, everywhere you read or look someone is saying "NEVER shoot into a vein". i have asked this question on this board so many times its sick. and when the board was great i only got about 5 logical replies...
god i wish macro was here, him and F3 had great answers to this...     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 75 |
It's just a waste of gear. No one dies from injecting gear into a vein that I know of. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 184 |
What do you mean? Blood goes to your lungs,brain and other less important organs and you can't see what happens if you get couple cc of oil inthere,hm..... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 557 |
code... PLEASE... EXPLAIN... if you have no explanation or you really dont know, you just THINK YOU KNOW, like code... why bother replying? cuz code, if your certain about this bro, i got your back. i will give you some sust to shoot into a vein, and allow me to watch NOTHING happen to you. PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR ANSWERS... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
I've never had a nurse or doctor aspirate before injecting with either water or oil. I don't have a medical explaination, since I'm not a doctor. Just an anectdotal observation. I suspect I've hit a few veins. And I'm still kicking. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
Holy shit friends, a bro of mine just stuck himself with some sust, and I noticed that he didn't aspirate before, and he had already put in .2-.5ml, and then he aspirated and blood came out!! Then about 30 seconds later, he felt really lightheaded and he had to sit down, and he had sweat all over his head!! Please give me some responses quickly, he is going to go to bed, and I've never encountered this problem, so I don't know if I should let him go to sleep, or keep him up, or what the hell to do!!! Please give me some responses quickly!!! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1474 |
For starters when a doc or nurse is doing the shots, they never do vet stuff. Also it depends on a great deal where you inject. The butt as more little veins then big ones. Even when hitting a vein there, the stuff gets mixed with the blood (if waterbased). I even don't know if it is possible to shoot 2 or 3 cc's in a vein in the butt. Maybe if the vein is too thin, the needle does not stay in that vein, so only a drop or more would be in it. We had this conversation before, so here is a good answer: he who does not care can always shoot a few cc's in a forearm muscle or even the one lying there on your bi's, even closer to the heart. Because for the guy who gives a sh*t about pulling back, what's the difference in what vein you shoot? Don't forget in your arm everything will be in the vein. If this scares you, then pull back, don't be lazy. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
BUMP!!!!! Let's get a fucking reply here from someone who knows about this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 156 |
same thing happened to my brother....he had a BAD headache and he broke a sweat, and he went to bed because he didnt feel good....he injected into his deltoid and blood went everywhere when he pulled out, but he went to bed and got up the next morning. Nick | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
Thanks Nick. Shit, my bro's name is Nick, that's funny. He seems to be feeling fine now. i guess I just panicked because I was the one who originally got him started on the juice, and it didn't feel good to think that he could be hurt by the shit that I introduced him to. Thanks buddy. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 376 |
www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/10-2000/032067.html | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 184 |
I agree with Jeff_rys,it's impossable to shot more than a drop into vein,unless it's like one of the major ones,because of thickness and speed of injection. What comes to nurses,you didn't "observe" anything,you just think you did.I did,and what I saw is:they ALWAYS aspirate,it just they've done it so many times and so proffecional,it takes them a second and they use same hand,just pull the plunger very quickly with different fingers,almost instantly as they hit you with the needle.So,pay attention,before you make such a statement! Some people,don't aspirate,they even stab themself through sweatpants,and they live,bruises,hey,they're tough! God gave all of us choice,and that's fair,otherwise wouldn't be rich and poor,weak and powerfull,happy and miserable,right?! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 721 |
Side effects of shooting into a vein include: Dizzyness, feeling light headed, feeling like you are going to pass out and Im sure numerous others. There is also the fact that if shot into a vein you are going to waste the solution you injected. Why wouldnt anyone pull back? I simply dont understand. To me the fact that I would be injecting anyways but watsing the solution is enough reason to pull back. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
How long does it take you to pull back? About 1 sec. This is your health you are messing with. Introducing anything to the body, which is unnatural, is going to have a detrimental effect of some form, pharmacological fact - all drugs have side effects. You hit a vein and that stuff is straight to the heart, brain - anything fed by blood directly. Let me ask a question - do steroids work best where they are the first point of contact i.e. glute, quad etc? Yes. If your first point of contact is your heart, it is going to grow? How healthy is a swollen heart? Wise up, aspirate, and live healthy. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 683 |
Ok, This is what I know. It would be physically impossible to shoot even 1cc of oil into a vein, it just wouldn't go. I was in the hospital a little over a month ago, and was asking the doc about the same thing. He told me you would need over 10cc's of air directly into a vein to kill you. He said if you suck a 10cc syringe full of air in a vein, say on your forearm where an iv goes, you wouldn't be able to push even a cc into it. And if you were stupid enough to hammer it in, he said the air bubble would be the size of a tennis ball, the vein would bust. I think the stronger point is that you don't want to waste gear. If you are in a vein, and happen to pound in some gear, it is wasted. Just make sure the plunger is moving nice and easy, you will know if you are in vein. I wouldn't worry about it so much. It only takes a second to aspirate, so for peace of mind just take the time to do it. D. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
You should always aspirate, period. Any kind of emboli can travel through and as the blood vessels narrow, the emboli can get lodged and cause blockage thereby causing a medical emergency. The most common of these is plaque on the walls of blood vessels. Even though AS injected directly into a vein may not kill you, with as many fakes as there are out there, how clean is the soultion? What if you got bunk shit and injected dirty, unsanitized AS into your bloodstream? I'm sure certain amounts of certain legit AS introduced into the bloodstream can probably produce cardiac arrhythmia, etc. and for someone who may have an undetected heart problem, who knows, maybe it might be enough to cause cardiac arrest. Just my $.02 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 557 |
does nobody else find it interesting that EVERYONE who usually acts like they KNOW EVERYTHING, is not answering in this thread??? very very interesting... i think some people should question what they "KNOW". | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1009 |
Since YOU already know the answer, why not just enlighten everyone on your vast array of knowledge. What the purpose of this post anyways? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 557 |
i said i "KNEW"??? read again bro. i asked a question... i expect an answer from all the people who are always right... havent got a good one yet... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1009 |
I misunderstood your post then. You said you've asked this questions so many times its sick, and got 5 decent replies. Figured you knew the answer. My bad  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 319 |
YOu should always aspirate because oil in a vein will kill you and yes 1 cc of oil is able to go into a vein. If the oil makes it to your heart it can stop your heart. Not to mention giving you an embolis, which can travel to the lungs also and kill you, or to the brain and kill you.A fat embolis or pulmonary embolis can kill you period. look at what happen to milos sarcev, oil in a vein and it almost took his life. | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 2265 |
quote: The oil in synthol is much different than vegetable oils, etc. (used in AS) The fact that it stays in the tissue for weeks (or even months) at a time should tell us this. The article also pointed out that the particular oil that he used (synthol, pump 'n pose, etc.) can be picked up by the capilaries. I think it's a good idea even with AS, but I've never heard of anybody actually having that problem with anabolic steroids. My .02 ------------------ Visit my website (free of all Musclehedz pictures) at http://profiles.elitefitness.com | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 557 |
holy shit... iron boy writes!!!! dude, i am back at home so we are gonna have to hook up... got my number still? |
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posted December 21, 2000 01:18 AM
