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Jae

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Come on, this has been an endless debate. Let's find out who exactly does it.


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When I inject into my quads I always do. But when I inject into my ass, sometimes I don't.

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Yep. . .the real question is "who is dumb enough not to?????"

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I do probably 99% of the time. Theres been a few times that I haven't.


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Jae

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for the record, I don't. I have never once done this. And I have probably done about 11 cycles before over the last 7 years.


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posted December 20, 2000 02:56 PM

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i do every time


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I have done 3 cycles over the past 2 years so I am hardly an expert but No i do not draw back on the plundger.


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To each his or her own..........I DONT do it, yup, I DONT....after way too many shots to even count anymore,not one problem.....It works for me, but others might disagree......Let the debate begin........

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I dont, the last time I did this, I think I pulled a little chunk of my ass out..I know it wasn't blood because it was a tiny solid red chunk....I've never had any problems.


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I DO pull back, a tiny bit of milky stuff sometimes comes into the syringe, then I'm good to go!

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when i inject in my ass I don't all of the time....If i inject anywhere else, i do


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I DO, WHY WOULDNT YOU, IT JUST TAKES A SECOND, AND I ALWAYS INJECT INTO THE ASS. THERE NO GOOD REASON WHY NOT TO.


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I swear that every cycle I pull *a lot* of blood into the syringe at least 5-8 times over the course of a 10-12 week cycle. That's usually about 45-55 injections so you can calculate the odds here. My freinds almost never hit vains so obviousely not everyone has as many problems as I do. I hope that means I get more vascular than they do!! hehee Anyways be careful if your like me but to each his own.......


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posted December 20, 2000 03:17 PM

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What's wrong with people why would you not do it. You can get real f**k up if you
shoot in a vein.


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I do,don't want to die,because I'm dumbass.


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posted December 20, 2000 03:22 PM

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always......it only takes a second anyway


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I really don't think it's necessary. But, when I go into my glutes I do because it's so easy, but if it's in the delts I don't because it's too hard to reach.

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posted December 20, 2000 03:37 PM

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always and i've only done the glutes, never seen anything abnormal at all.it's not like you pull a whole lot


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Over the years, even the doctors and nurses that have injected me with antibiotics or flu shots NEVER pull back on the plunger. They just ram it in there and squirt. No wonder thos damn shots hurt so much. Next time, I'll ask the nurse if I can inject myself...that would probably freak her out! LOL


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posted December 20, 2000 03:59 PM

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Juice in the vein is wated juice, it won't mess you up and it won't get you big. I never pull back and I inject both quads and glutes eod.


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Not only do I always aspirate. I also preload an air pocket into the syringe!!! After shooting shitload of times I came to realize the end of the barrel and the cone are always left with the good stuff. It is always in there. I just preload a little air bubble and shoot away. All the juice comes out. You know you have totally bottomed out when you hear the little hiss. I have done this about 5 times now and no problems. They are all intermuscular, it doesn't cause any damage to anything.


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Dying from injecting into a vein has got to be the biggest myth. Besides Milos's Synthol accident, I have not heard of anyone dying this way in the entire 7 years I've been lifting.

don't you think the press would have a field day of "Deadly Steroids" in every newspaper if this happened more than once?


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OK its easy enough to do if you are injecting in the leg or ass, but I am doing site injections in my bis and tris and I can't figure out how the hell to pull back with out pulling the needle out. Somebody e-mail me if you know a way. I can't get anyone to help me, because even though my family knows I am juicing, it would freak them out to see me with a needle in my arm.


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yes,everytime


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Hazmat,

Trust me when you hit it, it will be real obvious. Your winny (for some reason it's the drug which seems to happen the most with, probably due to increased injections)
will turn pink real quick and if it is oil based you'lle see a big pool of blood floating in the oil. It doesn't take much pulling back if your in a vein that sucker will definitly fill up.


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neal

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i do everytime, i have never hit a vein (i always take glute shots) but its not hard taking a little extra safety percaution.


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never have.


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FtLauderdale

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I do it EVERY time. I dont think its sensible to not take this precaution.


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always do it no exceptions!


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almost always do, there might be a few times where I don't think about doing it.

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I didn't pull back on my first cycle, but that was only because I had never heard of pulling back before injecting. However, I have consistently done it in all of my other cycles. I think it's a good safety precaution, and it doesn't hurt you or anything.....so why wouldn't you pull back? I guess some people just don't care, but thats their business. This is just how I do things.

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I always aspirate when injecting. You are supposed to. I remember like my 4th injection ever I hit a vein. I pulled back and there was blood. I just pulled out and moved it. I have heard if you shoot it in the vein you will often times gag and cough like you are going to pass out, no thanks.

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Nope.


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I ALWAYS do it, left cheek or right. It can be difficult, but, sheesh, I'd rather see small bubbles than blood.

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seems to be about 60% of people doing it.


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Never have never will.

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When i was younger i never did, now that i am older and more experienced with the gear i do every time!!!

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I am not suprised by the responses by both those who do and those who don't. For those who do, you have done your research. For those who don't, think of it this way: You have infected gear and you inject into a vein, you could die....instantly, if you have a certain medical condition that may not be known to you. This was told to me by a dentist who was describing oral surgery and the precautions. He said it translated into injections involving intraveous, i.e. into a vein usage.

Use your heads.


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Always. While the risks are very small when injecting into the glutes -- even if you do hit a capillary or vessel, it is simply a good habit. There is not one good reason not to. You needn't aspirate the syringe much; if you pull back even the slightest, you will see blood if you hit anything.


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i always draw back... better safe than sorry

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I only shoot glutes, and I draw back every time. Like my guru from Chicago says, "The first rule of shooting gear is: ASPIRATE!" Why are some of you against this safe and necessary practice? Too macho? Too busy? I'll bet you any amount of money that there's a strong correlation between the practice of aspirating and use of good sterile technique, knowledge of gear, probably even knowledge of lifting and overall respect for iron. There'll be some exceptions, but I'll bet that's true.

If you don't aspirate, you should start. If you won't start, at least don't be proud that you don't aspirate. There's nothing worse than the combination of ignorance and pride, though they often go together.

My $.02.

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I always pull back


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Guru from chicago hmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't and never ever had a problem.

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Pull back everytime, why waste your expensive ass gear by injection into a vein, it's worth the two seconds it takes to aspirate.

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always!


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I don't understand why someone wouldn't pull back the plunger. It doesn't cause any pain, it takes about 2 seconds and it can save you from injecting directly into the bloodstream.

Why would anyone risk not pulling back?

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I do..Why not?..It's not like it hurts or takes hours to do..


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I alway pull back out of 50 inj i have got blood once while inj HCG, pulled out stuck another spot on the ass and jacked the blood and all


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Okay, I will draw back the plunger from now onwards! promise!


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Why the fuck wouldn't you?????


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always,it became an unconscious habbit


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ALWAYS... haven't shot without pulling back... theres always that feeling of WHAT IF this time i hit a vein.

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I ALWAYS aspirate........ "B"


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always do.


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i never have but then again i never thought i could hurt me


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I always pull back. It only takes a second. Even if injecting into a vein doesn't hurt you the gear is being wasted, and i dont want to flush my hard earned money down the drain.


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I don't just because my girl is a RN and she gives me my shots
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After 1000+ shots you know when youve
hit a nerve or vein. I simply relocate the pin.


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Always


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i always check...

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Fuck it! I don`t need it.


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Always.


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As I said on another thread - 1 sec. What are you guys doing.

Kodiak - sums it up nicely - who is so stupid not to?


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Res

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posted December 21, 2000 10:34 AM

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Dont be a pain in the butt, just pull back it only takes a second.


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JuiceDude

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posted December 21, 2000 03:31 PM

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I've done 3 cycles with shooting up twice a week, and have never pulled back.


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mike001

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posted December 21, 2000 03:52 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by whodaman:
I dont, the last time I did this, I think I pulled a little chunk of my ass out..I know it wasn't blood because it was a tiny solid red chunk....I've never had any problems.

same fucking thing happened to me the first time i pulled back...
anyway, it is funny, i never pulled back before and i never got results off of juice until i started to pull back


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python77

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posted December 21, 2000 04:06 PM

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hell yes, always


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted December 21, 2000 06:06 PM

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You should always aspirate before EVERY injection. Period. The people who do not are one day going to find out the hard way. Hey, im not flamin those who dont, but guys, its better to be safe then sorry. USE YOUR HEADS!

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Dexter

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posted December 21, 2000 06:12 PM

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Jae, the initial question was good, but now the answer is pretty obvious. This thread should be closed, but for some reason I think it will last until 200 posts.

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EXerTION

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posted December 21, 2000 08:52 PM

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After just doing my first cycle, I pulled back everytime. I also plan on doing it everytime in the future, its quick to do and only takes like 1 or 2 seconds. Like mentioned earlier, better safe than sorry.


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winstrol69

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posted December 21, 2000 09:09 PM

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For those guys who say "it only takes 2 seconds..."
Here are reasons I dont aspirate anymore.

1)Nurses NEVER aspirate.
2)The movement of the needle causes soreness for days.
3)Its too damn hard to reach at times when doing delts.


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Dweezle

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posted December 21, 2000 09:15 PM

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Everytime, always


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mikecsa

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posted December 21, 2000 09:20 PM

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i always check it!


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Eramthgin

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posted December 21, 2000 09:37 PM

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When its going into the Glutes I never draw back. Hell I'm not that flexible and can only get one hand on the dart. Whenever using one hand I never draw back.

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