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  What do the toxicity of orals compare to? (winstrol tabs, anadrol, ect.)

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ItalianSweetness

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posted December 20, 2000 10:46 AM

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I am wondering what drugs like winstrol tabs, anadrol tabs, and d-bol tabs have an equivalent to. By this I MEAN THE DIRECT EFFECT ON THE KIDNEYS AND LIVER. Whats the difference in poping 1 winstrol tab which is 17AA and popping an anadrol pill (i know it sounds silly!?). For example would one d-bol pill be equivalent to taking, say a pill of ecstacy, an anti-biotic,an aspirin, or a beer? <i know it sounds like a dumb question but i am sure a lot of bro's on the board would like to know this>


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nexus6

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posted December 20, 2000 11:16 AM

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aa17 toxicity does not depend on the type of aa17 substance but exclusively on its dosage.
Popping 20mg of any aa17 should roughly be the same regardless of the compound (be it Dbol or Stanozolol...)

Thus what makes one A50 tab so much more toxic than one Dbol tab is that the Dbol contains 5mg of the aa17 'compound' and the A50 contains 50mg of the aa17 'compound', which is = to doing 10 Dbol tabs at a time - plus the fact that A50s are supposedly effective at a dosage of 100 - 150 mg/day...

But I could be wrong - mods, vets?


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The Ghost

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posted December 20, 2000 11:34 AM

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I think it would be very hard to pinpoint the exact level of toxicity of a 17aa compound period, much less compared to another substance. How would a scientist go about measuring this type of toxicity? Would it be universal for all individuals? Probably not. It has been proven before that 17aa usage can cause liver damage, so therefore one must determine that they are indeed toxic. How toxic? At what dosage? Who knows. I don't think anybody has the answers. I would, however, venture to say that extended 17aa use is far more damaging to your organs than an anti-biotic or an aspirin.

TG


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supernatural

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posted December 20, 2000 02:46 PM

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i would love to know that to, so i dont fear abombs that much ,im doing a short cycle with them now 2 a day. sometimes i get a headache and pop some extra strength tylenol which is also bad foryourliver.


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flexed1

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posted December 20, 2000 02:51 PM

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this may be incorrect but I would think that anadrol is stronger than d bol and winny tabs in 1 tab dose form so if you took the equivlant in winny and d bol as in 1 anadrol would this be the same? i would think the sides would be the same based on equal dose but again not being a scientist or pharmacist does anadrol container a harsher sequence of compounds? don't know


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THE BOUNCER

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posted December 20, 2000 02:53 PM

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its all based millagram per millagram


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Tuna Guy

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posted December 20, 2000 03:16 PM

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I read somewhere (cant remember) that 1 anadrol is equal to 1 shot of martini with regards to liver toicity.


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Donald Smoot

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posted December 20, 2000 03:36 PM

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Of a given population of men it has been determined that after drinking 16 oz. equivelent of liquer a day for 6 years, one half of this group will have developed acute alcoholic hepetitis by this time. Some individuals may drink larger amounts for 20 years and still not develop liver problems. So you see, there is no answer to your question. The dose that may make your friend sick in 2 years may never bother you at all. Likewise, some may tolerate d-bol well yet not alcohol or vise versa. The only sure answer in all cases is that the longer you dose and the higher the dose the greater the risk of trouble.
The liver is regenerating, so the best course is to play it safe and take months off between courses of liver toxic substances, especially beer!


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FreakMonster

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posted December 20, 2000 04:35 PM

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Taking 3 tablets of Anadrol 50 (150mg) is roughly equivelant of 30 D-bol tabs or 75 Winstrol tabs. When looking at the medical requirements of Anadrol, the recommended dosage for all ages has been 1-5 mg/kg of body weight. This would give a 220lb person a dosage as high as 10 Anadrol tablets (500mg) per day.


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ItalianSweetness

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posted December 20, 2000 07:48 PM

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thanks fella....very interesting. I am wondering about the one anadrol = martini though. IF that is the case then i guess it's not the bad. I am contemplating using anadrol with my cycle in a year from now with a host of other compounds. I think we don't know for sure what effects orals have because we are all different but i am still interested in the equivalents people have heard......so bros, continue on if u have heard of some comparisons (moderators, what are some of the comparisons u have heard?)


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WanTtoBeDeisel

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posted December 20, 2000 11:25 PM

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hey italian where in NY do you live bro, and by the way nice pictures from a previous post, thats wear i wanna be.


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