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 Shoulder pain! Please Help!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 57 |
For about the last 3 months I've had a annoying pain in the front part of my shoulder, and its progressively gotten worse. It hurts the most when I am doing flat bench and lat raises. I have had a little problem in previous years with it and the doc always said take off a few weeks of lifting and stretch out better. (I stretch out good before every workout now) I not for sure if its the same thing as before, but I don't have health insurance to find out. Anybody have the same kind of problem, what did u do to get rid of it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 80 |
Sounds like a rotator-cuff injury to me. Best to lay of the weights for awhile, it will only get worse. I went through the same thing 2 years ago. Deca helped though...  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 57 |
thats good to know because I plan on getting on deca and sus in about a month. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 317 |
the deca should help | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1813 |
If its more towards the top of the shoulder where the clavical attatches it may just be the acromial clavicular process, you've irritated, stretched or slightly torn some of the tendons in the area. Letting it rest is probably the best advice. . .especially if you're not going to the ortho and getting it MRI'd. If you still have strength and just pain I doubt it's the rotator cuff, could be but I doubt it. . .the other suggestion is Viox and or advil to help with any inflamation and pain in the specific area. Good luck. Kodiak ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 949 |
Kodiak, although ortho's say that if you still have strength it's probably not the rotator cuff, it's not always true. I just had rotator cuff repair, but prior I had no loss of strength. But then again, I'm kind of a freak because I had torn my rotator cuff and my prior bankart repair and I was still able to work out without a loss of strength. My doc couldn't believe that I could still work out. Anyway, the point of my story is that you can't rule out a rotator cuff tear. You should get an MRI, but even those don't pick up anything. It wasn't until the doc scoped my shoulder when he discovered that I had torn my bankart repair, which didn't show up on the MRI. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 57 |
It's more toward the front, not the top. I haven't lost any strength I can still do the weight, I just can't put it up because my shoulder hurts to bad. Incline bench is fine, Decline hurts some but flat bench just kills me, I finally quit doing it. I want to put off going to the doctor till i get insurance (about a month) or till I get on my sus and deca cycle. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 949 |
Right now you should be using your money for the doc and not gear. But, you should take some time off to heal. If it still bothers you after a couple of weeks then DEFINITELY SEE A DOCTOR. In the mean time work on some cardio and cals. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
Big Joe, Your situation is exactly the same as mine. I have a mild impingement which is caused by shoulder being out of equilibrium. This is likely due to a disparity in strength between internal and external rotator cuff muscles which has existed for many years. Many motions strengthen internal rot cuff muscles, while few strengthen external rotator cuff muscles. This causes you shoulder joint which is not heavily contrained (like a knee or elbow joint) to get out of place. Then you put stress on the joint with it out of place and it gets hurt. Since you are going to wait to see the doc, try the following for 4-5 weeks. Drop all lifts that hurt your shoulder for 4-5 weeks. For me this meant dropping the following!!: DB Flat Bent This wiped out 80% of my chest/shoulder day! I came up with some alternate lifts for the tricep stuff and shrugs, but everything else I dropped for 4 weeks! Get a shoulder horn (see shoulderhorn.com) and use 3-4 times per week. This will strengthen external rotators and begin to pull you shoulder back into equilibrium. If your case is bad, you may need to more invlolved physical therapy/rolfing/deep muscle massage/manual realignment, etc. Also, get Vioxx/Celebrex or use Advil in prescription doses regularly (every day!). After 4-5 weeks if your shoulder pain is gone or greatly reduced, add the stuff you dropped back in. But limit your range of motion or change grips, etc to minimize pain. Adjust your form to minimize shoulder strain. You may have to check your ego and lift less weight at higher Reps. For myself, I have given up on Flat Bench. I now do decline DB with a parallel grip, and incline DB, DB shoulder press and Hammer Stength Military. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 837 |
Its not your rotator cuff, that in the back of the shoulder. It sound like tendonitist or some kind of ligament inflamation. Vioxx will help, I'm taking it now and its awsome. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1197 |
I would save the gear for when you are healthy. Shoulder injuries are the worse cause they affect so many lifts. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 230 |
Joe, seriously bro, listen to the guys here. You gotta drop the heavy weights. Especially if you're about to do gear. Your shoulders have to be in top shape to take the pounding they're going to get when you get on the juice. Do what scooter said, get the shoulder horn-heard that thing's awesome for shoulder problems, or start swimming like I did. My shoulder problems have absolutely vanished since I put swimming into my training. keep eating alot though, you need the nutrients to heal the injury. You need to keep doing flat bench though, not heavy, but enough to keep blood flowing through the injured area. Shit, if that means just doing the bar than just do the bar. You can't stress the injury therefore causing more microtears, but blood flow over the area is an absolute must. So is keeping the inflammation down, that hinders healing considerably. The inflammatory response is a short term solution the body uses to get you to lay off the area completely. But you need to get rid of it. Icing is the best, but you still need the regular ant-inflammatories. I have no clue what vioxx is, but it's recommended by some of the bro's here, so try it. Hope you end up allright bro, I've had so much shit with my shoulders, so I know the feeling. Take it easy. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 206 |
Three words for you: "Active Release Technique". Go to www.t-mag.com and use their search engine to look for an article called "The Real Miracle Worker." I dislocated my shoulder and was told by an M.D. that I would need to be scoped (which means no lifting for several months). I had only 2 A.R.T. treatments performed (for a total of about $225), and my shoulder is about 95%. One more treatment and I should be good as new. Please, please, please, look into this treatment. You won't regret it. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 550 |
2 torn cuffs for over 3 years... i redid the left one 2 months ago, just as i was startign a cycle... had to quit 5 weeks in. havent lifted in about 3 weeks and been stressed to hell and back, but... I FEEL GOOD AGAIN... and this is with a tear that was surgery recommended to repair it ( fuck that ). rest up for a few weeks, its not that bad of a set back, its good for you. do some cardio and lean out a little, then hit it hard when your able to. if you cant flat then dont flat. if something hurts, sub something else.. you can work around your injuries, but not through them... | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
Same problem here. You have a tendon that connects the upper bicep to your shoulder. You probably did some minor damage(I say minor because a tear which is major would put you out of commish)that is getting inflamed then irritating a nerve. Do you also get some nice popping or crunching noises out of it. Lay off the flat bench for a while and use dumbells at a lighter weight. Try some shoulder therapy exercises also you know the ones where you lay on your side and do the 5 pound DB's. If you can get your hands on some voltarin.(kick ass anti-inflammatory)the least I would use is naproxin. Don't lift heavy if you tear that tendon you're probably gonna go down for a good 3 months. Good luck and happy holidays. |
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posted December 20, 2000 10:24 AM