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 True or False: Mike Mentzer built his physique using HIT ?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Guys - While Mike Mentzer was training in his prime (and while on AS), did he, or did he not, use the BRIEF, INTENSE, and INFREQUENT training methodology he espouses ??? If, in fact, he DID, why do those of you on AS not at least give his train methodology a try ??? Thanks.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 157 |
Scotty, I beleive on this board, I posted that his ideas and thoeries seemed to hold water. He's just too extreme and applies them incorrectly. When he was in his peak condition, back in about 1980, he even used 2 sets per exercise, 2-3 exercises per muscle group, training 3 days a week. It's not a matter of trying it or not, it's a matter of looking at the princples and determaining if they can be fitted to you, much like Martial Arts in a way. --==MeanOne==-- ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 721 |
No, he used prohormones Scotty! BWAWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
Good one, Ghostman !!!!  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 721 |
Scotty, I have to say, you are a damn good sport. I remember those posts where people flammed your ass to no end, yet you never really got pissed or flammed anybody in return. Are you one of those real mellow type guys? Just curious... TG | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 511 |
I used to follow HD as gospel , but injuries and age sent me back regular ( high volume ) training . I still think Mentzers ideas about recovery are flawless . Ironically enough they are somewhat in line with Louie Simmons , in that you should always have a measurable improvement in performace, every workout. [This message has been edited by BigWh1tey (edited December 19, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1474 |
I thought HIT was high intensity training? They used this in the seventies, correct me if i am wrong, but Arnold used high intensity training. Only back then it was "intensive" training. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
Jeff_rys I could be wrong, but Arnold was into intensity but not the way Mike's plan is detailed. HIT is doing max weights, slowly. Minimal sets and only a few times a week. Arnold was in the gym all the time and doing max weights with higher sets. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 88 |
I'm pretty sure that Mentzer trained Yates in HIT, and Yates used that for the majority of his training towards the later part of his Olympia dominance. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1474 |
Yes Code, but Mentzer took (in my opinion) more roids then Arnold and with his low sets thing he never made it to victory. He wasn't the only one who trained like that, also his brother and his training partner Casey Viator (if i am not mistaking, it is so long ago). Viator was huge too, not to forget. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Cool Novice 
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I'm not sure if this is the word I'm looking for, but I think Arnold looked a lot "healthier" than his contemporaries. It doesn't look like he ever had a side effect from AS. Which brings me to my next question; did those guys have access to anti-estrogens and things like that? I can't remember ever seeing any vintage BBs having gyno or having a ton of zits of anything like that. GC | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
how was his strength compared to arnolds though? HIT might not be a great method to develop a competitive physique, but it might make you stronger and more functional in the long run. I wonder how strong arnold was, or for that matter, any of the top pro's today. I know muscletech boy, Kovacs, is one strong ass mofo, but you don't see him in any pro competitions do you. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 199 |
Just got a copy of Arnolds latest book for a Christmas present for a freind. Before I wrapped it I did a quick look through. I think it said in his peak he weighed 225 with 22 inch arms.. If I remember correctly... But if you ever tried on of his workout session--- Took me almost 2 hours to do all the exercises. I'll just stick to Yates program, short and intense.. | ||
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Cool Novice
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quote: i think i read somewhere that Yates often did 2 warm up sets and 2 work sets...sound like 4 sets to you?? so much for one set to failure! [ | ||
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Cool Novice
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kovacs is not only strong but hes fucing huuuge.. its his symetry and shape. hes got a humongous belly also if any of you have seen him in person | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 555 |
Mentzer had some good ideas with HIT but he was not the know all guru of training. He also advocated the 1 inch squat, which is total bullshit. You should try some of his methods and adapt them to suit your own routine, as well as the ideas of others. Everybody is different and I believe that variety and constantly shocking your body is what works best. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
I've seen Kovacs in person. He is huge. Probably very strong as well. But he's a slob. Nothing about him is asthetic or appealing in terms of of body building physique. I'd put him in the power lifter category though. | ||
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Freak 
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It bears a greater resemblance to a powerlifting regimen than that of a competitive body builders routine. Just my opinion, I have not tried it, and don't think I will as I am more of a hard core, 5 days a week gym rat. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.............. What is the concensus ? Did Mentzer in fact do HIGH dosages of AS, along with a FAIRLY HIGH number of sets per body part (say 2 or 3) ????? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
bump | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 524 |
despite the labelling, Dorian didn't really train HIT. He did use forced reps and negatives on the top set for each excercise, but this was always proceeded by 2-3 "warmup" sets which also used reasonably heavy weights. |
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posted December 19, 2000 01:11 PM
