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PowerLifter45

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posted December 18, 2000 08:49 PM

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Are me and Arnold the only ones who smoke fat joints after a hard days workout?


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Res

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posted December 18, 2000 08:50 PM

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I sincerly doubt it bro.


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BigQuadz

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posted December 18, 2000 08:57 PM

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The biggest, most cut guy i know is a dope head. Don't let anyone tell you it will hurt your gains.

Now you got to watch those Taco Bell runs though.


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posted December 18, 2000 09:00 PM

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No flame but to a certin extent i believe it can hinder minor gains. I think and i believe tests have been doen that show weed raises estrogen levels.
Dont get me wrong i smoke my share as well.


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ultragainz

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posted December 18, 2000 09:03 PM

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i saw people strenght drop like hell on weed,its up to you bro.
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!
P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!!!


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PowerLifter45

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posted December 18, 2000 09:05 PM

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then its settled, everyone light up a joint after your next hardcore workout in memory of the great arnold. Or just light one up, you dont gotta like arnold.


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jorbiddon

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posted December 18, 2000 09:06 PM

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i personally smoke weed after all my workouts because it increases my appetite greatly. it also gets rid of any soreness that i may have from the workout. i finish workout out at about 2:00pm. smoke a nice joint, then my appetite is revved up for the rest of the day. by the time its ready for bed, i use the weeds negative effects of coming down to make me sleep easier.
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Res

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posted December 18, 2000 09:07 PM

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Its the seeds that can produce estrogen not the weed. And no you should not smoke before the gym. As for ill body building side affects, I dont think so. Bob


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PowerLifter45

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posted December 18, 2000 09:08 PM

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weed aint gotta have much of a fight againest my 2000 milligrams of test a week. Amd my armidex tells me nothings giving me no bitch titties. Now just smoke a joint.


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got big?

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posted December 18, 2000 09:11 PM

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I don't think it's good to smoke before workouts either...
I also like weed to calm me down after a hard workout cause I usually pop some Xenadrines to give me some extra energy, and like it was mentioned, it increases appetite. Just got to be extra strict and stay away from junk food. If weed can help lazy fucks get fatter I don't see why it can't help us get bigger


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jorbiddon

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posted December 18, 2000 09:17 PM

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lol at got big? my friends smoke and eat a bunch of nasty junk food. what they fail to realize is that it makes rice, steak and chicken taste much better too, not only chips, dip and shit. they say im lazy because i put a steak on the george foreman rather than go for a walk to mickey dees. somehow they think they are gettin the better part of the bargin. id rather eat protein and heal. haha
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Spunky

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posted December 18, 2000 09:20 PM

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First of all.. how do u know arnold always did that after he worked out.. sure he did in the movie, but.. so what. Personally, the day after I smoke up im weak as hell. But i don't smoke anymore. To each his own.


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Daeo

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posted December 18, 2000 09:21 PM

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I don't know why but these kinds of questions bug me a little.

First off the only time that you have proof that Arnold smoked pot is on the movie Pumping iron. I doubt he was a habitual user.

It's not my right to say what one should do and shouldn't. But I figure if you're taking 2g's of test a week you should be pretty serious about what you do. Smoking weed doesn't sound like you are.

Most of the people that justify getting fucked while on AS don't have the discipline to stop. Plain and simple.


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PowerLifter45

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posted December 18, 2000 09:23 PM

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Hey, email me for some real dank bud. Some real fine shit. ill get you some purple haze thats back from your decade. Anyone else wants BC's email me. LOL


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DreaDlorD

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posted December 18, 2000 09:26 PM

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I think that taking a toke should be required for all bodybuilders. I have found that it helps me out a lot with that "roid-rage".


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meathead011

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posted December 18, 2000 09:43 PM

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i know some big dudes who smoke after the gym they dont seem to be affected by it, but they also dont walk around stoned all day.

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Loco71

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posted December 18, 2000 09:51 PM

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man once and a while wont hurt ! but i'll tell ya it really takes stress away and you sleep like a baby.


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supernatural

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posted December 19, 2000 12:10 AM

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i wouldnt have had the extra food before bed if is wasnt for my weed tonite, makes me got to bed earlier to.Sometimes it pretty hard to sleep when you first start the sauce


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mrjeremy

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posted December 19, 2000 12:11 AM

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i work out late night so i find it very soothing having an after-work-out-session with my bros. i get great sleep too. the only downfall is trying to stay away from the soda, sweets and in-n-out.


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got big?

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posted December 19, 2000 12:14 AM

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yeah it is some good after workout relaxation
I find that, a nice dip in the hottub
and some good food does good things for me, and i end up sleeping like a baby on GHB!


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mule

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posted December 19, 2000 03:07 AM

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marijuana and anabolic steroids are the two major causes of gynocomastia away from pueberty.

so if you mix the two, that can't be good.


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Thor72

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posted December 19, 2000 03:22 AM

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If you got it...smoke it! (Ozzy Ozbourne)


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strengthmonster

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posted December 19, 2000 06:29 AM

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After my 1st meal, after my workout only. Helps me relax and eat more. Sleep better as well. Wake up the next day feeling more refreshed. Don't smoke it all day except weekend if I'm not training. At the end of the day it is a lot healthier than drinking and there's no hangover to deal with if you are training the next day.


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PowerLifter45

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posted December 19, 2000 08:23 AM

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amen,


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punch

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posted December 19, 2000 08:31 AM

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True story!!!! When I was in high school back in 87' there was this kid that got transfered to our school after getting kicked out of his last one. He was fucking huge, juicin like a MTF. Anyway, he was smoking some herb with his buddies after school before he decided to train. His mother was home and he went into his basement and blasted the music. The story goes that he put 300lbs on the bench which by the way was not even close to what he could bench. About an hour and a half later his mom went down to check on him and found him lying there with the bar draped across his neck. His face was bright blue and his neck broken. I dont think anyone knows what grass does to your system while on AS. Why take the chance!


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Mr. Roarke

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posted December 19, 2000 11:09 AM

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Punch- Maybe true but definitely an aberation.
Weed is great for appetite and excellent for relaxing properties. I don't smoke before workouts but have friends that do and they can handle it unlike me. To each their own in that respect.
A little 4-way bud works wonders to fight post cycle blues as well. IMO.


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Wfabrizio

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posted December 19, 2000 11:38 AM

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I totally agree that it helps you eat more and it helps you sleep more too. Those are definately good traits to add to BB.


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howieball

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posted December 19, 2000 03:08 PM

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Weedies the breakfast of champions !
I light up right after the gym . Looking foward to it makes the workout go nicely. Sometimes I'll puff a roach before I go in.


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Green

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posted December 19, 2000 03:13 PM

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It may hider gains as some say but I make up for it with the diet. I eat like a damn horse when I'm stoned but I am a bit concerned about my upcoming cut cycle. Later, Green


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Busy_Mind

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posted December 19, 2000 03:39 PM

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WEEEEED RULEZ!!!!!

But...

In my experiences, I tend to fatigue quicker and lose strength. Not to mention, my chest feels like it gets flabby whenever I smoke the shit. I do it once in a blue moon now to help relax and take some tension off, on off days from my training only though!

Yes, if your truly serious about bodybuilding and your body, you'd cut it out all together like I am!

You wanna eat more????? ...Throw some eq in your stack. Nuff said.

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CPfinest

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posted December 19, 2000 05:22 PM

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QUES: Where did you read that Arnold smoked after every workout? AND if its on a site, could you post it.


"If you have to talk about how bad you are, then obviously your not big enough, SO SHUT UP AND LIFT, and let your body speak for itself"


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gearseeker

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posted December 19, 2000 05:38 PM

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I have hit all of my personal best single rep lifts while high. I know Im an exception but the shit makes me focused as hell in the gym. If my buddy gets high with me he sits on the bench and giggles for an hour. I get very aggresive.

I agree it can enhance the appetite, but on a serious diet I think it takes the edge off my hungry attitude.

In addition, weed has never made me feel lazy. I think the "lazy from weed" excuse is as bad as the "roid-rage" bullshit. Your either lazy or your not - it doesnt have anything to do with weed.

As far as Arnold goes, nobody seems to know exactly how much or often he smoked. But, the fucker drank like a fish and didnt have any qualms about training after having a few. Arnold trained like an animal - but partied like one too!


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M1KAI

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posted December 19, 2000 05:55 PM

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Hi,
I like to drink loads and do extacy as well load's of it...! J/K

I think you should be good to your body while on stay away from beer and drugs do that once a year...! Or when your off if you must do it..!

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Spunky

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posted December 19, 2000 06:37 PM

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gearseeker: im pretty postitive weed makes u pretty lazy... everytime i've smoked i almost fall asleep, so do all my buddies..... theres no way i could lift when i was high.


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BarbarianHorde

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posted December 19, 2000 08:42 PM

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i'm a habitual weed user & i don't drink much at all, or do any other drugs.
even natural, i found it doesn't hinder gains at all, even though it is often touted as estrogenic and demotivating.
after a workout, i love the body flush from some good sinse - i think it helps with soreness too. and bejez does it make me hungry!!

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GreatOne

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posted December 19, 2000 09:04 PM

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you are not alone right before bed is the best or prefrably some ghb


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GreatOne

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posted December 19, 2000 09:15 PM

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its great if u smoke it AFTER a workout, and only seeds and stems cause excess estrogen


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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted December 19, 2000 09:17 PM

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maybe weed hits folks in different ways, but there's no way I'm making any excuses when I say that weed made me a sloth. There's no way I'd do that shit now, especially not while training. When I smoked that shit in high school I felt like a fucking sloth. A friend of mine has been smoking everyday since his senior year in HS, that was 5 years ago, and all 5 years he has been in college have been a fucking waste of his parents money. The kid couldn't pass underwater basket weaving. I know about 5 more dudes just like him that are just pathetic, I can't say exactly that weed is the cause or just the result. But everyone I know that smokes doesn't have a clue what they want to do with their life, and they don't care to get a clue either.


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BarbarianHorde

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posted December 19, 2000 09:25 PM

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stems and seeds?? what sort of crappy shite is that?? throw the stems away and grow the seeds, smoke sinse!

BHB, that's what stoners are. everyone must know at least one person who's turned into a chuffing vegetable. however, the majority of rec users will never become stoners and anyone motivated enough to train shouldn't really be worried. it also depends on what sort of weed is around, there are a myriad of different effects.


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posted December 19, 2000 09:43 PM

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I'll throw in a dip after a workout, but I haven't and will never smoke a blunt.


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bz savage

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man child what is a dip? and why wouldnt you smoke a blunt thats the best way to smoke tha shit!


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Green

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You're from Walnut Creek and you're asking what a dip is?? jk :P
It's chewing tobacco. Later, Green


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KRYPTO

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When I smoke it is only after my workout. The buds don't do much for motivation. But when I do toke it's only the finest of herbs...Krypto


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I'll have two please!


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gearseeker

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Bigphysics and spunky - I know Im an exception, but Im so fucking motivated its scary! If your right, and weed de-motivates people - its a good think I smoke as much as I do.

Otherwise I just might take over the world.

If I smoke some cheap mexi or local commercial weed - I do feel a little tired, but not to tired to miss one damn rep in the gym. If I smoke the kind nugs (which is always) I feel energized, focused and strong as hell.

I guess everyones different.


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Doc Ponch

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Gearseeker,

You and I must be the only ones. The focus and mind-to-muscle connection I feel when I workout high is incedible.

True story. When I was in my late 20's, I stopped smoking for nearly five years. I had been working out with a partner for about 4 months, when he told me that he could get me some buds. To make a long story short, the first time I worked out high, I was able to workout with 5-10lbs more per lift, same reps. A couple pre-workout bingers off the old TM have been a staple ever since.

The Doctor


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Eramthgin

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posted December 21, 2000 09:22 PM

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Hey dudes I like to sit in the middle myself.

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musclegear

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One thing everyone is forgeting about is the fact that the studies done on bud raising your estrogen and lowering your testosterone was done on people who were not using anabolics. If your natural test production is shut down, there's no way bud will raise your natural estrogen levels. When you're using testosterone at the dosages bodybuilders and powerlifers use all that research goes right out the window. I'm hitting 465 @ 198 on the bench. I smoke every day and sometimes I'll take one bong hit before I try to max. It relaxes me and helps me focus in the gym. To each his own, but as far as weed affecting anabolic steroid users in a negative way I'd say it's bs. Just control your eating habits if you smoke at night, drink a myoplex or eat a protein bar instead of raiding the fridge. BTW, I've found those nasty tasting bars and shakes taste frigging awesome when you smoke too! No more choking down those dry pure protein bars, you'll actually want to eat them!


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posted December 21, 2000 09:44 PM

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I do only when bulking to stir up my appetitie. And I dont smoke it...I eat it...In a sandwich or something to prevent lung damage.


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CN1

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posted December 22, 2000 12:24 AM

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I smoke before every workout!


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