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ultragainz

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posted December 18, 2000 03:48 PM

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hello.ok there are some people out there that take anadrol and strong roids like that and dont gain no weight or little weight.but they well gain strenght.my bro is like that so should he go on the weaker roids like deca EQ primo ect.what else can he use? what iam saying here is it true so there is no point of taking strong roids right(for him)?but i think d-bol works good on him.(well maybe,not sure).and i hear that people like that can BLOWUP from the weak roids,like the other people that take the strong roids.plus you guys know anygood cycles for this i know a lot but want to see what you guys give me.so could some of you guys give me info on this.Thanks(just making sure of this)
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!
BRING IT I SET THEM UP,AND KNOCK THEM DOWN!!!
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hellraisr

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posted December 18, 2000 05:23 PM

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Bro, I am sure I don't have to tell you that gains are related to diet. When I read your post, thats the first thing I thought of. You need to eat like a damn horse!!!
I have always used dbol & found that if I pig out, I gain mad weight. Although my last cycle was sust/dbol, I didn't eat enough, maybe 3000cal a day, which is just enough for me to maintain what I have. Anyway, the sust made me strong as all hell but I gained very little weight.

If he didn't even gain any water weight, his gear may have been fake. Did he take the anadrol by itself or was he also using an injectable? How many a day was he taking?

Give us more info & I am sure someone will help!


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MeanOne

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posted December 18, 2000 06:08 PM

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First off, it's not that recpetors don't work, it's thier shapes. Some chemcials will work great from some individuals because the drug fits into their recptor great (giving it a higher affinity), but in others, the receptor is just a little different so the drug doesn't fit in as well (lower affinity). This is why injectable insulin works for some Diabetic Patients, and not for others.

Also, in future posts, can you avoid that annoying bottom line. Every time I see that, it gives me a fuckin' headache. Thanks.
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cockdezl

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posted December 18, 2000 06:52 PM

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MEAN, the ligand binding site of the androgen receptor is highly conserved and although there are medical cases of people (most cases are women) who don't respond to androgens, because their AR's don't bind androgens; I believe that there are numerous other factors that would account for individual variations in steroidal effect, and not receptor conformation. Possibly receptor population, enzymatic differences, diet, training, etc. would be more probable factors for these differences.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 18, 2000 07:10 PM

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Diet, Training, Rest. . .those are the key not the AS. . .if you don't get the basics down with those three your wasting money on AS.

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ultragainz

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posted December 18, 2000 07:15 PM

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ok but i know people that eat good and train good to they tried all kinds of things and even changed there diet and trianing so some people told them to give weaker compounds a try??just asking no need the get upset,but i do understand if it pms.lol.j/k..sorry if i posted wrong or used the wrong words
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MeanOne

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posted December 18, 2000 09:41 PM

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Receptor population and enzymatic differences are DEFINATELY factors. In fact, some of my placement work has been formed around determaining the differences in receptor populations in young aged diabetics, as oppossed to the older population. It seems that the majority of individuals who suffer from type II diabetes, whom are under the age of 5, suffer because they have many less recptors for the drug. While the information is not conclusive yet, very interesting.
But in the case of androgens, if you have a lack of receptors, then all androgenic compounds will work less effectively as a whole.

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