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Hindustan

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posted December 18, 2000 02:31 AM

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Finaplix seems to be the only legal steroid (like) out there that can be purchased hassle free from the Internet? I have a couple of questions regarding its use:

All questions refer to finaplix being taken orally.

1) Finaplix does major damage to the Kidney's. What BESIDES Cranberry Extract and Cranberry Juice , and WATER what more can one take to protect the Kidneys?


2) Can one take Chyrsin to prevent Bitch-Tits from Happening? How successful is it? *Chyrsin is legal and its avaible at GNC*

3) Curious is there another alternative to Finaplix that is legal? Its for Muscle hardness and fat loss.

4) Fina-Dick: I have heard it mentioned, but no for sure answer. CAn users expect deca-dick like effects with this? Since Clomid is not avaible (legal), what is another legal alternative to stop it fro happening.

5) How does Finaplix work as a cutting agent. Does it use some sort of thermogenic property or diet supressent?


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Hindustan

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posted December 18, 2000 02:32 AM

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Bump you go....

Side NOTe: Mr. H if you could create a FAQ that would greatly help. I have read the board, and some of these questions just arent answered


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T Bone

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posted December 18, 2000 02:48 AM

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Well, I'm not a pro at fina, but i have a few answers. (hope there correct)

1. The tale of Fina damaging kidneys is quickly becoming B.S. Aparently there is not evidence of this. Take cranberry extract and a ton of water incase.

2. Crysin, I belive helps to minimize estrogen (supposedly). Gyno from fina is progesterone induced.

3. Don't know.

4. Don't know, had the same question. Don't think so. Clomid is legal in the US.

5. I saw a good explenation on how fina works a week ago or so. Try a search. I think it's not so much that it works as a thermogenic, (most androgens raise your body temp though) as it works well with a low cal diet like winny and does not aromatize causing water retention.

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ryker77

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posted December 18, 2000 09:32 AM

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1. Lots of water.
2. A ZMA (zinc magnesium B6) Is in theory supposed to help stop T to E conversion. Its fairly cheap if you buy it by the individual bottles. But If your taking real AAS then you'll need real items to prevent your Bitch Tits.
3. Hard work, plenty of good food, and plenty of rest time. Thats the only legal way... You could try to get a doc to check your test levels. If thier low enough then he might give you some AAS that you can take without worry.. Might have to try quite a few doc though. I myself don't like giving blood.
Yes Fina is legal to order for "animal use only" and the kit to convert is also legal for "animal use only" . Fina is a illegal drug when used by humans. And if by chance you get caught or tested its the same thing as plain old Test....
4. never heard of fina-dick and with only one fina cycle under my belt I can say I never had a problem with that. I was taking very small amount of prop.
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Bump it up for the man Mr.H and huck.


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Judge Smales

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posted December 18, 2000 11:36 AM

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There are some problems here. 1) Oral fina does not work. 2) Fina is NOT legal to use.
3) If you're taking it oraly gyno will not be a problem because the drug will never get into your blood. 4) You don't need clomid for same reason as #3.

If you are going to take steroids then damn it, take steroids! Otherwise learn to train and eat correctly and you'll get hard and cut that way.


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big4rt

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posted December 18, 2000 01:32 PM

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Judge Smales, I just need to know the proof you have that oral Fina DOES NOT work. I was going to do it that way. Thanks.

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Holy souldier

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posted December 18, 2000 02:34 PM

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my urine was brown once ,nothing a little extra h20 didn't take care of ,nothing legal that i know of, no fina d*** ,winstrol will help with the bitch tits,and i dont know how it works and dont really care,as the results are great


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Judge Smales

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posted December 18, 2000 02:35 PM

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Well, there really is nothing tha could be called "proof" on this issue. No one has ever dune a controlled study of the efficascy of orally ingested fina, basically bec' there has never been much interest in it.

WHat I based my statment on is this 1) I have a friend- a very close friend- who has used fina via several methods and found the oral route to be completely ineffective 2) you are probably aware that there are two broad classes of steroids; orals and injectables. Why can't you swallow an injectable and get the same effect as if you had injected it? Because the drug has not been "packaged", chemically speaking, in such a way that it can make it through your digestive tract and into your blood. Fina falls into this catagory. That's why 99.99999999999% of the people who use it take the time and trouble to process it into an injectable form or mix it w/ a transdermal delivery agent- because it doesn't do much otherewise. My friend has had some limited success w/ sublingual ingestion, but only by using ALOT. Like 20 pellets a day.

Hope that helps.


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T Bone

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posted December 18, 2000 04:49 PM

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Judge Smales,
Many people get decent results from Fina oraly. There is alot of people on this board that do it amd get decent results. Yes, not as good as injected but it does work.

quote:
"That's why 99.99999999999% of the people who use it take the time and trouble to process it into an injectable form or mix it w/ a transdermal delivery agent- because it doesn't do much otherewise."

Bull shit my brother. It seems every day someone on this board is talking about taking it orally and getting results. I will be starting my first fina cycle soon and will be injecting it because I want the best results possible.

Please visit Mr.H's site and the fina board for more info.

No flame intended.
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Judge Smales

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posted December 18, 2000 07:26 PM

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Hey T,
I never expected that you would be flaming me. No problem.

Been to Mr. H's site many times and I love it.

Now- what I read on this site and others are 1)alot of peole who are planning on trying fina orally, are going to let us know how it works out, and never mention it again, and 2) people who know some guy who said his friend's brother got great results w/ oral fina. Now by no means am I an old timer, and I sure don't read every post, but I say "Not BS at all!!"


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natedawg

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posted December 18, 2000 09:32 PM

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Here's a theory.
I'm sure most would agree that almost all people who take fina orally are beginners. Give a beginner a placebo and tell him it's a steroid and he'll get results. He'll work out harder and he'll eat more and he'll gain. I'm not just making this up; there is a study that shows this. So almost all the gains seen from oral fina are placebo-like gains (in my opinion).
I'm sure some of the oral fina gets absorbed because if you ate testosterone, a small percentage (I think I read 10 to 20%) will be absorbed. But who wants to waste 80 to 90%.
I agree with the guy who said, "Damn it, if your gonna take steroids, TAKE STEROIDS!"


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ryker77

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posted December 18, 2000 10:04 PM

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you said it right on the money...


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The Ranger

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posted December 18, 2000 10:19 PM

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Pharmaceutical Name: FINAPLIX-H


Brand Names: HOECHST ROUSSEL VET: Finaplix-H.

Description: Finaplix-H (the H is for heifer) is a cattle implant that comes packaged in a cartridge containing 10 dosages of 10 pellets each (100 pellets total). Each pellet contains 20mg of trenbolone acetate for a total of 2 grams of TA per cartridge. There is also a Finaplix-S (the S is for steer) version, but it contains less pellets, 70, and they are weaker, 14mg of TA per. TA is a testosterone analogue that is 10-50 times more active in the human body than testosterone. TA is the same drug that was in the US labeled Finaject, which was discontinued about ten years ago. Finaplix was recently discontinued as well. It has been replaced with Revalor, a TA compound that contains an estrogen called estradiol. Unless you want gyno we recommend you stay away from Revalor. Users of Finaplix see great mass and strength gains. TA does not convert to estrogen so users will see no water retention. However, although TA does not aromatize there are many instances of gyno in its users. This is a very strong drug and one of the first side effects users see is a darkening in urine color. This is a sign of kidney damage. It has been noted that TA is also very effective at burning fat, making Finaplix very popular amongst pre-contest bodybuilders. Not only does TA improve nitrogen retention, but it also raises many hormone levels. In a study performed by the Department of Animal Sciences, rats were injected with Trenbolone Acetate daily for two weeks and then were tested for an increase in growth hormone (GH), insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) and fibroblast growth factor (FGF). Not only did treated rats grow more rapidly, deposit less bodyfat and retain more protein, but satellite cells cultured from the Trenbolone-treated rats exhibited greater sensitivity to FGF and IGF-1 than cells cultured from control rats. This increased sensitivity was also accompanied by increased levels of GH, IGF-1 and FGF in the bodies of the rats. With an elevated cocktail of these growth promoting hormones flowing in an animals body, it cannot help but grow. Not only are the cells more sensitive to these hormones, there are more hormones available to utilize. It would be safe to say that similar kinds of hormonal increases and sensitivities would also be found in humans that used Trenbolone Acetate. A large increase in these hormone levels would not only help with growth, but would sky rocket the effectiveness of this drug due to the cocktail of the anabolic hormones present in the body. What makes TA so attractive to bodybuilders and strength athletes is the incredible cosmetic and strength-producing effects it has on the body. Users report a dramatic increase in strength and muscle density along with anoticeable increase in fat loss. Furthermore, research done on lab rats produced evidence that TA is an initiator of cancer. If you are predisposed to cancer, TA will speed up the process for you. Although discontinued, you can still find Finaplix-H but veterinary suppliers inventories are starting to dry out. Drawing close is the day when TA is once again near impossible to obtain. Finaplix can be injected or applied through DMSO. Since you must grind up the pellets manually, an 18-gauge needle is required.

Effective Dose: 75MG every other day. It is not recommended to use Finaplix in excess of 6 weeks.

Pharmaceutical Price: $37.50 per cartridge.
$20-$25 per Kit if you plan on making this injectable.

Average Street Price: It is sold at vet supply stores and is not seen on the black market.


Cycles & Stacking Finaplix can be stacked with a number of steroids. It is most commonly found in cycles with cutting drugs such as winstrol, T3 and clenbuterol.

Side Effects: It is very toxic to the kidneys, and will cause acne and aggression, and therefore not recommended to be used by rookies in the world of steroids.

Counterfeits: None as it is legal.

Effectiveness Rating: 8



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posted December 18, 2000 10:20 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ryker77:

Yes Fina is legal to order for "animal use only" and the kit to convert is also legal for "animal use only" . Fina is a illegal drug when used by humans. And if by chance you get caught or tested its the same thing as plain old Test....

Ryker, I got a quick question. Do you mean that it's legal to order it and if it gets caught in the mail fine, the only problem is if it's found in your system? I'm not worried about being tested, just getting caught in the mail.


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The Ranger

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posted December 18, 2000 11:00 PM

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Fina is legal to purchase, and have....it is illegal to convert it for human use....BUT, I think this is alot of hogshit.....Most cops oe DEA wouldn't know unless it had testosterone written on it somewhere....

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Hindustan

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posted December 19, 2000 01:29 AM

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Quoted By Ranger:
"Fina is legal to purchase, and have....it is illegal to convert it for human use....BUT, I think this is alot of hogshit.....Most cops oe DEA wouldn't know unless it had testosterone written on it somewhere...."
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So I can order this off the Internet and get it shipped to my house. As long as I dont USE the drug I will be fine? Because I haven't coverted it for Human Use. <-- Its still in its orginal container. Curious what do you mean "convert it for human use" anyway. The last thing I want is to get arrested AGAIN.

(Obviously, i would hold the package for a while and wait to see if any FEDS knock on my door).



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Hindustan

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posted December 19, 2000 01:41 AM

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Bump that Monkey!


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T Bone

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posted December 19, 2000 04:04 AM

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Judge Smales, Sorry, didn't mean to sound like a dick.

Have you checked out the "Testamonials" section of H's site? There a few people in there that took it oraly. I'm not talking about the Fina Discussuin Board.

Hindustan,
Converted for human use means, made into an injectable.

Peace,

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slabcat

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posted December 19, 2000 08:52 AM

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Mr. H does have a faq page on his featured site. You definately need to go there and read up. What Ranger means is that you buy the fina implants online but they're not ready for human use. Unless you use it transdermally which I personally believe is a shitty way to go. Injection is the best method. But to inject you have to convert the fina to an injectable form which requires a kit, which you can also find at Mr. H's site, or you can order it premade but it sounds like that's not an option for you right now because of your legal wishes. A close substitute for fina is parabolan but that's not legal either and very hard to find. Just visit H's site and a lot of questions will be answered.

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