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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 06:03 PM

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I'm about to do a pretty heavy bulking cycle and will make my question simple, don't you need water retention for strength? I will need to take arimidex against gyno but this will also kill the water retention. Don't I need this to grow and for strength? Also, how doesn't arimidex cut into gains if nolvadex does? Can someone help me? Thanks.


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Mr.Lean

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posted December 15, 2000 06:36 PM

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You'll grow fine without water retention. Relax.


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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 06:52 PM

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Are sure? cuz i don't mind this side effect, I just want to grow as much as possible, I eat big and all, do you know a good dosage for arimidex though? against gyno...


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lawnsaver

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posted December 15, 2000 06:56 PM

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First of all the water retention is only water. As for gains, do youreally want it? The arimidex will keep you leaner and you will see lean muscle gains, which in my book is what you want. The water is going to leave you at the end anyway, so why not keep it off the whole time. Just a note arimidex might cut into gains about 5%, not much considering its mostly water.


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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 06:59 PM

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well i dont mind it either way since the water will leave at the end, but what i am saying is, if i can gain more muscle having the water retention, then i'll do it. But don't you need water retention for stregnth also? what is a good dosage for arimidex because i will only have 28 tabs throught an 8 week bulk cycle. I should probably take some more when I come off too....


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WanTtoBeDeisel

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posted December 15, 2000 07:08 PM

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hey where can i get some armidex? is it over the counter?


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Amp

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posted December 15, 2000 07:20 PM

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I have found the water retention to be have pros and cons. It makes you strong as hell and helps protects the joints but it is really hard to truly judge your progress to see what you are really gaining from week to week. Also it causes me to have increased blood pressure and all the extra water weight gives me lower back problems and pain. So I have concluded that for me personally I keep the water to a minimum for health reasons and to more accurately judge my progress. It doesn't make much sense to me to piss out 15 pounds of water post cycle and watching the muscles appear to shrink when the muscle mass really isn't changing but it psychologically effects most of us when we see that change.


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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 07:43 PM

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well if i keep water to a minimum with arimidex, will i still be strong as hell? Cuz that is my main concern. Thanks/.


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THE BOUNCER

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posted December 15, 2000 07:53 PM

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WHY DONT YOU GUYS DO A SEARCH.


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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 07:55 PM

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why don't you shut your mouth, i already did
I hate it when people like YOU try to be so powerful, makes me laugh.


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Amp

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posted December 15, 2000 08:02 PM

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If you don't mind the sides then I wouldn't worry about it. You'll still be strong without the added water retention but I have found having all that extra water adds a lot of extra strength but it goes away post cycle. I rather come off cycle and maintain all my gains rather than lose the false water gains and have it piss me off mentally. That's just me, some people love the extra size and strength but for me it has too many negatives so I use Clomid and Nolva to keep it down.


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EmptyWallet

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posted December 15, 2000 08:10 PM

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I dont think the bouncer can find the caps key, seems to be yelling in all of his posts. Or maybe he just talks loudly?


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EmptyWallet

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posted December 15, 2000 08:38 PM

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scratch that last post, i was being an asshole.


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skin88

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posted December 15, 2000 09:14 PM

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Amp, thanks alot man for your post. I am the kind who likes that extra strength and size but i will have to use arimidex to kill the gyno that i will get from 40mg dbol ED and 1 gram cyp per week. I hope arimidex doesn't cut into the gains of strength as much, but I do appreciate your kind replies to this. Thanks.


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Amp

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posted December 15, 2000 11:34 PM

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That's what this board should be about, helping out each other not flaming the shit out of each other and yelling "do a search everytime someone has a question". Good luck.


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