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PunkRocker

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From:The Region
Registered: Dec 2000

posted December 15, 2000 01:26 PM

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I have not done a cycle before, and I have a few questions about it. First off I am 6' 185 and about 18% bodyfat, and have been working out for 4 years. I have a really hard time going up in weight (bench press especially). I gain weight easily by eating the right diet (usually I gain alot of fat), and I have a hard time loosing fat (my natural body chemistry sucks) Reciently I have been doing the Hardgainer exercise routine working out 2x a week (before I was going 4-5x a week targeting different groups). Since I started this I have gone up in weight better than ever before. My question is, would it be better to stay on the hardgainer routine or work out 5 days a week hardcore? Also since it will be my first time, what would be a good dosage of Sust250 to start with, and how long should I stay on it for (is 10 weeks too long for the first time and is 250 enough per week). Also would adding Primobolan or winny during the later weeks be benificial , and if so what would be a good first time dosage to take(50mg/day oral 100mg/day oral?). Finally, should I be concerned about purchasing nolvadex while on sust, and would it be good to end my cycle with clomid?


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ultragainz

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:from the underground
Registered: Aug 2000

posted December 15, 2000 03:13 PM

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yes use the clomid after the cycle and during i would if you need to.
like 4-5 weeks in the cycle.
week1 sus250/500 winny/30mgs a day
2 500 30
3 500 30
4 500 30
5 500 30
6 500 30
7 500 primo/400
8 500 400
9 500 400
10 500 400
11 400
12 400
and 1cc of sus250 i tooooooo low for anyone.
hope this helps and about the winny tabs i never took them but i guess 30mgs is enough.

AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!
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The_Iron_Game

Elite Bodybuilder

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From:London
Registered: Oct 2000

posted December 15, 2000 04:48 PM

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If you are going to use winny orals you need a bare minimum of 40mgs, People often complain that the tabs dont work but when they inject they do 50mgs every day or 100 every other and then they use orals at 30mgs/day. Same substance so use the same dose. I am about to go through to the winny part of my cycle and will be on 50mgs/day.

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