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 Is 100 mg of oral Winstrol To much?
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Cool Novice 
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Ive heard more then once that the liver secretes igf-1 when its induced with oral winstrol. Making it less harsh on the body. Can anyone provide anymore feedback or info on that with me. What would expected gains be with 100mg of oral winny? Is it true that milligram per milligram it truly is more potent then anadrol.     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1017 |
Uh, no. A-bombs are by far the most potent oral on the market today. They make you strong and bloated, and then you lose most of it when you come off the drug. Winny is good for cutting and hardening, but minimal strength and weight gains. But the pounds you do add with winny (aka stanazolol) are much more permanent than with Anadrol. If you don't know, take either 50 mg every day, or 100 mg every other day. This is enough to see significant changes in your body. Also, read fukkenshredded's post on this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/041282.html | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
I doubt you'd be cutting on 100mg of oral winny a day | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
I don't get your point, but if you don't want to read and take advice, then fine. No sweat off my brow. BUT, winny is commonly used for cutting while dieting. AND I never said 100 mg/day (which is dumb in the first place unless you have a personal vendetta against your liver), I said 50 mg/day or 100 mg EOD. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 150 |
I did 200mg/winstrol a day for 2 weeks. 100mg is allright for muscle building. For truly amazing effects try 1.8mg/Kg. That was my saturation point. Anything over that was a waste for me. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
GymRat im not attempting to argue with you here,im just trying to find someone who knows what their talking about. I don't and you are not helping me, you seem to know as much as i do. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
You have balls to rail me here... I sure you'll get a good consensus here that I DO know what I'm talking about. Go ahead and be ignorant. | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 3767 |
Powelifter you should listen with your ears and not your mouth. Now to answer your questions: quote: igf-1 is good for growth and is released with winny (I believe more so when taken orally but not much more). As for making it less harsh on the body, no thats not correct. Winny is primarily used for cutting, 100mg ed on winny will net you maybe 5-10 pounds (probably much closer to 5) in 10 weeks if your using a bulking diet. Although winny is a fine drug, and puts on quality muscle (although rather slowly in comparison) it is not even close to anadrol mg per mg. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Well then what about the igf-1 levels. thats what im trying to find out here. And even Dan Duchaine said that milligram per milligram oral winny is stronger then oral anadrol. I am just trying to find someone to tell me if there is truth to that. I mean he might have been a guru, but he was also a nutcase. Not trying to bash you. I read your thread it didnt help me out. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Slopain thanks for the info, but i have about 6 friends including myself all taking 2 of IP's 50 milligram tablets per day. And just about everyone has shot up in weight about 9 pounds on average in two weeks. Peoples strengths are also going through the roof. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 794 |
It basically boils down to how many promoter regions you have on your genes that encode for protein synthesis. Like said previously, everyone will have slightly different satiation levels. Another consideration you must take into account is the acidic environment of your stomach. Stanozolol will inevitably lose some of it's potency, like all other orals, when used by this m.o.d. I've done several cycle of injectable winstrol orally and agree that 100mg should be the starting point Last time, I used 150mg and had comparable results to injections. I disagree with the idea that that winstrol is comparable to oxymeth. But I'm always willing to learn something. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
IP's products are known to be shady at best. What the label says is not necessarily what you're actually taking. You may actually have A-bombs and not winny. Winny is not known to put that kind of weight on someone in that short period of time. [This message has been edited by GymRatSD (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Do you workout at Golds in NewHaven? Nice Gym. And whats up with that New Haven Police Force, their juiced up more then Ronnie Coleman | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
God Gym Rat i hope thats not true, the tablets are blue. I think ips anadrols were a reddish color | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3767 |
Powelifter no offense to you, but you need to open you rmind a bit and relize that no one knows everything. IP's products are very very shady some of its un-active and others are different products completely. Winny for 2 weeks will NOT produce 9 pounds of muscle, and since winny doesnt cause water retention there is no way its muscle or water, so either you put on 6 or so pounds of fat, or are using it in a stack, or what your taking isn't what you think your taking. Dont believe everything you read, would you believe me if I told you many people on this board know MORE than danny duchaine in reguards to AS usage? It doesn't matter because its true. By the way: dont believe everything you read in WAR or anabolics 2000 either. THERE IS NO TRUTH TO ABOMBS and WINNY BEING EVEN CLOSE TOGETHER MG per MG strengthwise, or gains wise. IGF is the reason why most say you want to take it orally, yes its powerfull but not extremely so in the amounts its secreted due to winny. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 603 |
I live in the New Haven area...and have friends that work out at golds....I've yet to see a cop in New Haven that is more Juiced up then Coleman though. My thoughts on comparing anadrol to winstrol are these: Yes you will gain alot more weight off anadrol then winny, but mg to mg winny will give you more quality lean muscle that you can keep....more then anadrol. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Slopain i read it in tmag also. But i will just dead the topic. Its not going anywheres. Thanks for your help though. Jesus who else lives in the New haven area. I workout at the Worlds in wallingford. Do you know Lou, the owner of worlds in middletown? or dave, and nick the wallingford guys? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
I don't think the topic is "dead", but you're just not getting the answers you were hoping to hear. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 587 |
GYMRAT i think some of ip's is wworth it and that its not shady, also, yes the winny tabs are blue(real strong) and the drol have brownish streaks on them. powerlifter quit talking circles out of your ass, both answered your ques. so quit being a parrot or be more specific. ive taking 100mg of winny/orally before and it was no big deal, gains were great! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 44 |
Well Let me give you my results from winny... I took 100mg ed for 4 weeks and 100md eod for the final 2 weeks. A total of 6 weeks. I had awesome gains. Gain 12lbs. of lean muscle mass. Oh and the brand was stanazolic by ilium. late, CHUCHU | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
Powerlifter...the guys on this board really know what they are talking about, so you need to open up your mind a bit, I have been given some really excellent advice which has helped out greatly. But, from what I have read/heard, 100 mg of oral whinny ED should produce nice gains...good luck | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Sorry Mr Roid Ranger Sir, i will try and stop talking circles out my ass. Please accept my sincere regrets. Fuckin prick. IM here to learn asshole. Obviously everyone has their own opinion, since nobody answered the question exactly the same | ||
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Guru
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deleware must be pleasent this time of year... ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 539 |
I think that too many have this old misconception that certain steroids are mass builders and others are solely for cutting. This sounds like the old idea that high reps are for cutting and low are for mass building. Stanazolol, oxandrolone, primobolan, and other non-aromatizing drugs have RARELY been used in large enough quantities to show a true dose response curve. People simply have used stanazolol 50mg/day or EOD injected, and found that it maintains muscle while dieting, and therefore concluded that it is a poor muscle builder. How many have truly used 100mg+ of any of these drugs on a daily basis, to see what effects they have? The reason people have mis-catagorized the drugs into two groups: bulking and cutting, is simply due to water retention, whether from estrogen or progestagenicity. If one were to remove the water retention from, say testosterone, with say arimidex; how much different would the LBM gains be compared to a good daily dose of stanazolol? Might not be that much. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 587 |
well its hard to answer when someone really doesnt know exactly what the hell he's asking!!! so the nice people of this board thought they'd do there best to help your jibberish out slopain!!!LOL ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
I agree with Slopain, Deleware must indeed be very pleasant this time of year....No need to get so excited pwrlftr...everyone is here to give and receive advice...no sense in getting so agitated. Just calm down...no one is saying you don't want to learn. Just be open enough to accept a little constructive criticism...it helps us all. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
powerlifter quit talking circles out of your ass, both answered your ques. so quit being a parrot or be more specific.
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Guru
Posts: 3767 |
Actually I believe xman did a all winny high dose cycle, I believe he gained pretty good, but wasn't happy and wouldnt do it again. I will see if I can find the thread for us. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 587 |
i remember dan duchaine saying in 1 of those reference books that "winstrol is ineffective no matter how it was used" that book was WAR "96" edition... anadrol is much stronger my friend--try taking some ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
The comment may have been a little out of line, but there is no need to get all hasty and shit, man...just ignore the comment and move on. Don't worry about it...its nothing personal. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 587 |
asshole & fucking jew in the same sentence--now im really impressed---did you come up w/ that all by your little self??? you were bitching that no one answered you ques. but yet you kept confusively asking w/ out restating if your gonna ask a ques; dont act like such a bitch when someone answers differently then what your looking for, so far youve been negative towards gymrat, slopain and myself(which i just made light of it)---SO WHO REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE BRICK!!!!!!! ------------------ [This message has been edited by ROIDRANGER (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 221 |
PowerLifter45, maybe you should cut down on the gear your taking, or maybe you need a real attitude adjustment by some of the members here. I can't believe your attitude. Its people like you that...I don't even need to say it, you know where I'm going with this. You sound like a twenty-year old punk-ass bitch who got some balls sitting behind his keyboard, but couldn't stand his own ground face to face with someone. These guys on this board are some of the brightest I've seen on any board on the net, you should listen. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
quote: You're making friends REAL fast on this board, bro. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
Besides, your questions were a little vague, you could have been more specific | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3767 |
You are a dumb fuck powerlifter, if you weren't so insecure maybe you could learn from the various sources of information here (cockdiezl is always very informative). Instead you get caught up in personal quips, and slurs. I hope sometime soon you can grow up (by the way I mean emotionally and mentally not physically). Anyway here is a thread I found, it alludes to x's cycle pay attention to xmans post they are down the thread some.
For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 694 |
Powerlifter, "How was that constructive critisism? Guys an asshole. Merry Christmas, fuckin jew" How does his response make him a jew? I'm not jewish, but I'd really like to know what you think is wrong with jewish people? TG | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
Only problem with that thread, Slopain, is that you cannot read it unless you're registered. I don't think we want some racist, closed-minded bastard on that board. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
GymRatSD...LOL | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 587 |
tis the season--eggnog anybody??? hheehehehe ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3767 |
well lets try this then: ------------------------- o-town From: a a posted 12-06-2000 05:27 PM From: a posted 12-06-2000 05:34 PM From: Valhalla posted 12-06-2000 06:03 PM From: a posted 12-06-2000 09:12 PM From: Calgary, AB, Canada Registered: 11-11-2000 From: MA and RI posted 12-07-2000 09:09 AM From: a posted 12-07-2000 10:27 AM From: Ohio From: Calgary, AB, Canada posted 12-07-2000 01:23 PM From: a posted 12-07-2000 03:21 PM From: USA From: Calgary, AB, Canada From: US From: DECALAND
posted 12-09-2000 08:10 PM Registered: 11-11-2000 From: Valhalla posted 12-10-2000 11:15 PM
For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
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Maybe its time for pics to be posted, someone please tell me how to do that on here. Im not gonna take shit from someone who probably weighs 160 pounds hiding behind his computer screen. A picture is worth 1000 words, time for me to post mine | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Actually Roid Ranger you pansy, the only person i was disrespectful to was you. And i was just returning your favor. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 221 |
I don't think anyone gives a shit what you look like, your still a prick. Quit being such a dickhead. Merry Christmas. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1017 |
quote: If that's not insulting, especially coming from YOU, I don't know what is. [This message has been edited by GymRatSD (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Guru
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Well Ill tell you how to post your pic, but that doesn't change the fact that you aren't the brightest. Get your pic (or the person you will be passing off as you) onto a website - so it has a URL. Right click on the picture, click properties, and copy the location of the picture (will read http://something.jpg) (img)http://sometihng.jpg(/img) Instead of the paranthesis ('s use brackets ['s ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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quote: gee that was a nice comment and returned favor; no im just getting tired of you acting like an incompetent asshole!! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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The funny part is, despite you guys ripping me a new asshole which i deserved. This site is still 1 million times better than anabolics.com. Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight. | ||
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Guru
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lol | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
awwwww ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
I love you guys. Sustanon amps in everyones stockings this Christmas |
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posted December 15, 2000 11:37 AM