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 Overtraining myth or fact?
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Now I mean when you are on gear and your gear is in full affect. since you recover way faster is it still possible to overtrain. some BB workout 6 days a week and with all the gear they have in them they recover fine. so if an average juicer were to workout 5 days a week I don't think there is much chance of overtraining. only when you are not on gear is overtraining really a factor?\ please correct me if I am wrong     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 40 |
i put my body trough hell, 5 days a week 1 hour and 15 min. i don't think it matters when your juicein | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 389 |
email me that list... aky ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 389 |
i've been waiting all night  ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 510 |
You recover faster on gear but as you train harder and heavier you do more tissue damage so it balances out kinda. You can overtrain. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 613 |
The way I see it is this: WHen overtraining you are going to rasie levels of cortisol. If you do this then although your body is in an anabolic state the cortisol is decreasing the amount of the anabolic state. Ok if your receptors are bound to by steroids then the cortisol wont be able to exert its effects. However when you stop using aas and your cortisol levels are very high then something very bad is going to happen. This is one of the reasons why so many people lose much muscle after a cycle. Use certain things to prevent this cortisol and you are on your way to being in a more anabolic state as well as helping to minimise losses of muscle after stopping the cycle. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 616 |
Well then how the fuck do I build up my chest dammit. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 661 |
I think you can overtrain while on AS. I thought that went I did my cycle I would up my workout days from 4 to 5 because I figured I could recover faster. Well, I grew alright, but when I cut the workout days back down to 4 while on AS, I gained much more strength and size. You just need to see what works for you with alot of trial and error. TG | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 616 |
So everyone trains one body part per week. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 661 |
Yeah, I train one bodypart per week definately. Anymore than that and I don't grow. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 229 |
day on and day off is the best, i think. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1141 |
You can definately overtrain when not on AS. Although I recover faster on gear, I still think you can overtrain. I listen to my body. If I train chest on Monday and my scheduled day to do chest again rolls around,Sat, if I don't feel totally recuperated I wait until I do. As we ALL know. Just my 2 cents. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 420 |
Iron_game any idea's what to use for the cortisol? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Overtraining...is a miss guided phrase I believe. I think more people are under rested & under nourished more so than overtrained. If one who thinks he/she has been overtraining was to evaluate their diet & or recuperation time, I think they may find either or both lacking... If one get enough rest & proper nutrients for his/her level of training & experience then "overtraining" per say should not be a concern. Stroyer | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
Juice= NO OVER TRAIN JUICE LESSENS YOUR WORRIES! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 131 |
Overtraining can occur with AS use. This is usually a central nervous system over stimulation. 6 days a week training may provide muscular hypertrophy in the short term, but long term high frequency will negatively affect strength and immune system function. A system of shorter periodization training correlated to an AS dosing schedule will increase effectiveness of your cycle. In other words when dosages reach their peak then train with higher frequency and then back off when dosages decline. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 551 |
Overtraining is not a myth. If you train for over an hour, your testosterone levels will drastically decrease. Test levels peak about 20 minutes into your workout, and start going down if you go past 45min-1hr. With low Test levels, you won't grow, even if you have your diet and sleep right. That's why they say 'keep it short and intense'. Now on steroids, it won't matter because you'll have lots of Test no matter what. But it depends on your dosage, and what drugs you're taking. You might be able to train 7 days a week on 1000mg/week of Test and not overtrain, but not on 200mg/week of Deca... [This message has been edited by Recoome (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
Of course, each individual is different. No matter if I'm on AS or not, I have to train chest and arms twice per week. Once a week for these bodyparts just doesn't work for me. So, keep that in mind also. Just experiment. Before you even begin AS you should already have a solid routine and you should already know how your body responds to heavy training. If you don't have a solid routine, etc. you better wait before you use AS. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 192 |
These last few posts have been dead on. Overtraining can occur but there are many factors that detirmine whether you become Most have already been mentioned ( exhaustive training , poor eating , poor recovery , stress , etc) The body can change in so many ways that it is very possible to overtrain on AS, the thing is you have a better chance to avoid overtrain with AS then without. Of course this doesn't replace good training and eating. As far as keeping gains is concerned you want |
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posted December 14, 2000 08:28 AM
