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Barbarian69

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posted December 14, 2000 02:17 AM

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Been reading this site, among others, for quite a few months, researching and learning. This place looks great, you guys really crack me up. Anyway, I've learned quite a bit reading and doings searches, figured I'd say hey and see what y'all thought.

Sust250 Deca D-bol
Week 1 500mg 400mg 35mg/day
Week 2 500mg 400mg 30mg/day
Week 3 500mg 400mg 25mg/day
Week 4 500mg 400mg 20mg/day
Week 5 500mg 400mg
Week 6 500mg 400mg
Week 7 500mg 400mg
Week 8 500mg 400mg
Week 9 300mg
Week 10 200mg
I'll use clomid at the end, usual doses, and have nolvadex on hand. I know some people say start out with just one at a time, but I don't think this is too extreme after studying up. Your opinions are appreciated, thanks ahead of time!
BTW: I'm 6'2", 215lbs, just tested at 12.6%bf. Age 31, working out on/off 10 years, seriously for last 3. I know my training and dieting, new to juice, that's why I'm here.

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BigBazooka

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posted December 14, 2000 02:20 AM

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sounds good to me..you have done some research, great first post, man!
and welcome to the board.


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powerhouse21

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posted December 14, 2000 02:22 AM

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welcome


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meathead011

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posted December 14, 2000 02:23 AM

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i wouldn't taper the d-bol, take 35mg for the 4 weeks

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big bow

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posted December 14, 2000 02:24 AM

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Looks good. I agree with meathead....no need to taper the Dbol.
peace
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Mass Monster

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posted December 14, 2000 02:30 AM

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Nice cycle bro, welcome!

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Dexter

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posted December 14, 2000 02:31 AM

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Not bad in my opinion. You've done research before posting: thanks. You may want to consider Primo depot a the end. And clen/ECA if you want to cut afterwards.

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Mass Monster

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posted December 14, 2000 02:48 AM

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Dexter for a cycle like this what would you recommend keeping the sus at 500 mg and cycling in prmiobolin depot in at the end for the last 4 or 5 weeks or would you drop the sus and just replace it with primobolin at 400mg a week??? The sus would give you a larger gains and more strength however, it is not as safe and you wouldn't be able to retain all of the extra gains. Then you have the primobolin although it is not quite as strong it would make you have a harder look and keep the gains better in the long run. I also realize sus would boost the overall cycle but for a first time cycle the deca at 400mg and and d-bol at 30-35 mg should already be substantial for awesome gains and the cycle would would be safer and cheaper overall. Also what is your opinion on hitting up HCG in the it early stages of a cycle like this say week three to get a little jump start? Let me know what you think bro's.

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Mass Monster

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posted December 14, 2000 03:38 AM

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ANYONE???

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VEINS

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posted December 14, 2000 04:50 AM

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A very good first cycle,you've done your homework.Wisconsin hey? New a girl from Wauwatosa,Milwaukee.Not bad for a limey ass ha!


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VEINS

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posted December 14, 2000 04:52 AM

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A very good first cycle,you've done your homework.Wisconsin hey? New a girl from Wauwatosa,Milwaukee.Not bad for a limey ass ha!


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Shredder21

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posted December 14, 2000 04:58 AM

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Good 1st cycle. Welcome.


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strengthmonster

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posted December 14, 2000 05:24 AM

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Well researched, welcome.


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T Bone

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posted December 14, 2000 05:39 AM

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Welcome Barbarian,
Looks good. Just remember the sust will be active for four weeks after your last shot so plan your clomid accordinly. I'd start the clomid two weeks after your last shot of sust and go for four weeks.

Mass Monster,
I like what your saying, but i don't know if i'd hit the HCG that early. Personally i'd do it when the sust is leaving my system. Like right in the middle of the four week clomid rutien.

Peace.

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Vovan

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posted December 14, 2000 06:09 AM

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very well planned cycle... but don't taper the sust at the end - it's self tapering...

and just a thought: how the hell are you planning to take 300 or 200 mg of sust? considering that is 250mg @ amp...


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BigDad

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posted December 14, 2000 09:15 AM

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Ok,
wellcome on this board...
I have planned the same first cycle with Bro's advice : sust@500/week(8 weeks)-deca@400/week(8 weeks)- d-bol 6pills/day(5 weeks).

Just curious : isn't better to take deca-10 weeks instead sust 10 weeks ? (deca 10 weeks and sust 8 weeks).


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Bignick12345

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posted December 14, 2000 09:23 AM

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Dammit Im so tired of seeing this cycle, its good stop posting it.

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Barbarian69

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posted December 14, 2000 09:36 AM

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Oops, made an error in the column I put the 300mg and 200mg at the end. Yeah, it's gonna be the Deca that I taper, not the Sust. I didn't even notice I put that, thanks bros, I know that sust is self tapering.

Also, Dexter-I was gonna ask the same thing Mass Monster did. Would you cycle in the Primo at the end in addition to the Sust., or replace the Sust. with it? I was considering this, but wasn't sure the best way. I do want to harden up. I am planning to do Clen/ECA afterwards too.

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Vovan

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posted December 14, 2000 10:30 AM

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If you gonna use primo then I'd suggest just to replace deca to primo from week 7. 400/week at 7-10, 300 - at 11...


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Hacker

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posted December 14, 2000 10:38 AM

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I would keep the deca the same, and add primo in weeks 8-12 @ 400mg/wk.


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ThePitbull

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posted December 14, 2000 10:47 AM

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Welcome bro.

That's a great first cycle, you have done your homework.

I agree with Hacker and the other's;

I ran primo @ 300mg/wk for 6 weeks at the end of my last cycle. I really think it helped a lot. It's been almost 3 months since I've been off. I'm down only 6-7 pounds and didn't loose much strength, only reps/endurance, if ya know what I mean.

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Barbarian69

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posted December 14, 2000 06:02 PM

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Thanks for all the reply's bros, this is great!! I've got one last question on the primo if ya don't mind. If I add that in at the end like suggested, should I still start the clomid 2 wks. after last shot of Sust., or wait until after the primo??

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ripped103

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posted December 14, 2000 06:41 PM

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i would say definately drop the sus.since this is your first cycle you do not need very much to make gains.if i could start over my first cicle would be
50mg winstrol eod or 50mg win tabs every day
and combine it with equipose at 400mg a week.this will give you good size minimal bloat and you will be able to keep most of it after dicontinued.this will leave you room for the harder stuff later.believe me you will grow.i would also do 100mg of clomid for about 3 weeks after to get any suppressed test levels back.i know people will argue with what i told you but, listen to whoever you want to.good luck


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